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BobcatJH Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 09:01 AM
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The hidden scandal within the prosecutor purge
Edited on Wed Mar-21-07 09:05 AM by BobcatJH
Written and researched by Joseph Hughes of Hughes for America and Melissa McEwan of Shakespeare's Sister

Between the thousand-page document dumps, somewhat rejuvenated press corps and always up-to-the-second reporting from the progressive blogosphere, the prosecutor purge scandal is exploding at a seemingly exponential rate. Every hour, the story grows in new and different directions, and now clearly threatens the job security of Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and others in the Department of Justice. Further, it now appears as though the scandal's tentacles reach into the uppermost echelons of the Bush White House, including, as recent administration controversies almost always do, Karl Rove. While the endgame of this saga is far from decided, what is already apparent is that a vital facet of the story - the administration's seeming unwillingness to comply with both the law and a fundamental cornerstone of our American system - is in danger of being lost in the shuffle of the overarching stampede. And, if we can no longer expect our government's top officials - including the top official, the president - to obey the law and adhere to the bedrock standard of open government, then the questions about whether or not we still live in a democracy are no longer so far-fetched.

Here, in concise a listing as possible, is what we now know:

1. President Bush does not use e-mail. Our evidence for this comes both from the president himself, as well as an exchange between George H.W. Bush, Barbara Bush and Greta Van Susteren. The president, as seen in this telling video, said, of e-mail: "I tend not to e-mail - not only tend not to e-mail, I don't e-mail, uh, because of, uh, the different record requests that could happen to a president. I don't want to receive e-mails, 'cause, you know, there's no telling what somebody would e-mail me and it would show up as, uh, you know, part of some kind of a story that - and I wouldn't be able to say, 'Well, I didn't read the e-mail' - 'But I sent it your address; how can you say you didn't?' So, in other words, I'm very cautious about e-mailing." As mentioned, the president's father and mother have spoken about his avoidance of e-mail as well:
H.W. BUSH: ... I think it's too bad in a way that e-mail will detract from the historical record of presidents. I don't think that the President Bush uses e-mail.

BARBARA BUSH: He doesn't.

H.W. BUSH: You worry about it. People are going to subpoena the email records and we are going to, you know, you've gotta prove that you were telling the truth and all this stuff. I mean, it's gotten so adversarial that it's ugly.
2. Gonzales reportedly does not use e-mail. The evidence for this has come via reporting on the prosecutor purge and the related document dumps. Per an ABC News story, we see this: "The e-mails detail conversations about attorneys targeted for dismissal. There are no e-mails from Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, who reportedly does not use e-mail, though the Justice Department says messages show some indication that Gonzales' former chief of staff, D. Kyle Sampson, kept the attorney general apprised."

3. Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice, at least as of March of 2004, does not use e-mail. From an interview the then-National Security Advisor gave to wire and print journalists, we see this: "That's how I do business. I don't use e-mail for business. I think it's intemperate, and I don't communicate by e-mail." Curiously, however, in the same response, Rice said, "I did have to send Dick (Clarke) two e-mails telling him, come to my staff meetings, because he kept being too busy. I finally told him that it was important that he not be too busy." If that, too, is true and Rice herself - though she had just told reporters that she didn't "use e-mail for business" - did indeed e-mail Richard Clarke, this suggests a selective use of e-mail for business that, to be sure, is also suspicious.

4. Former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and current Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff, at least as of February of 2006, did/do not use e-mail. What was suspected about Rumsfeld in late 2004 was confirmed a little more than a year later when, in the midst of the congressional investigation of the official government response to Hurricane Katrina, we saw this: "When it came to documentation of how Secretaries Michael Chertoff and Donald Rumsfeld responded to Katrina, however, congressional investigators got a different answer from the administration. The House committee established to investigate Katrina was 'informed that neither Secretary Chertoff nor Secretary Rumsfeld use e-mail,' reported Reps. Charlie Melancon and William Jefferson, two Louisiana Democrats who participated in the inquiry despite a boycott by other House Democrats who felt that the inquiry was too partisan."

5. Per a Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) letter to Henry Waxman calling for an investigation into "whether the White House has violated its mandatory record-keeping obligation under the Presidential Records Act (PRA)", we learned the following:
One email, sent to Justice Department Chief of Staff D. Kyle Sampson from J. Scott Jennings, White House Deputy Political Director, uses an email account, SJennings@gwb43.com, on a server owned by the Republican National Committee. This raises serious questions about whether the White House was trying to deliberately evade its responsibilities under the PRA, which directs the president to take all necessary steps to maintain presidential records to provide a full accounting of all activities during his tenure.

A number of other emails from Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove's former assistant Susan Ralston to convicted lobbyist Jack Abramoff document Ms. Ralston's use of three outside domains: rnchq.com (used for the headquarters of the Republican National Committee), georgebush.com and aol.com. In many of these emails Ms. Ralston is communicating inside White House information to Mr. Abramoff in response to Mr. Abramoff's efforts to broker deals for his clients and place specified individuals in positions within the administration.

CREW has learned that to fulfill its statutory obligations under the PRA, the White House email system automatically copies all messages created by staff and sends them to the White House Office of Records Management for archiving. It appears that the White House deliberately bypassed the automatic archiving function of its own email system that was designed to ensure compliance with the PRA.
Taking everything we now know into account, some important questions arise. Why the obvious concern from the president about what could happen were he to use e-mail? To use the classic refrain employed by countless pro-warrantless wiretapping Republicans: Why avoid e-mail if you have nothing to hide? Also, why the seeming willingness by so many top administration officials to avoid perhaps the most omnipresent method of communication available today? Could it really be that Bush, Gonzales, Rice, Chertoff and Rumsfeld are each so technologically illiterate that they can't master a simple e-mail application? Or could it be something else entirely? To wit: A coordinated administration effort to avoid accountability at all costs, from bosses shielded from accumulating an electronic paper trail to staffers conducting official business on decidedly unofficial e-mail accounts. One wonders how many other administration officials either refuse to use e-mail or use non-governmental addresses to conduct official business. Dan Froomkin, writing in the Washington Post, posed similar questions. Froomkin passed the questions along to a White House spokesman, and so far has yet to receive a response.

One other question remains unanswered: What about the law? In an informative New York Times piece, Adam Cohen sketches out four potential crimes that may one day be associated with the prosecutor purge. About his first instance, "Misrepresentations to Congress", Cohen writes, "It is illegal to lie to Congress, and also to 'impede' it in getting information." It doesn't take much of an imagination to see how an orchestrated refusal among top administration officials to use e-mail for even basic communications could be construed as an intent to impede Congress from getting information. Especially considering the information Chuck Schumer relayed Tuesday when discussing the initial offer from the White House to allow Rove and Harriet Miers to testify before Congress, though unsworn, not under oath, not in public and with no transcript: "They (the White House) did offer to turn over documents, but that too was extremely incomplete because the only documents they'd turn over to us are communications from the White House to the Justice Department, from the White House to other third parties, and back. But no intra-White House communications. So, if Karl Rove sent a communication to Harriet Miers and said, and this is purely hypothetical, 'We have to get rid of US Attorney Lam. Come up with a good reason ...' and the only communication we get is the good reason that Harriet Miers sent to the Justice department in terms of getting rid is."

This is not to mention the notion that administration avoidance and misdirection thwarts the American citizenry from keeping tabs on their government. Consider the Presidential Records Act, referenced by CREW, whose release - as mentioned above - points to the idea that "to fulfill its statutory obligations under the PRA, the White House email system automatically copies all messages created by staff and sends them to the White House Office of Records Management for archiving. It appears that the White House deliberately bypassed the automatic archiving function of its own email system that was designed to ensure compliance with the PRA." Pretty cut-and-dried. Beyond using non-White House e-mails, what about not using e-mail altogether? If the administration, as in this case, appears willing to skirt the law regarding one form of communication, one wonders how closely they're toeing the line regarding others. The bottom line of the matter is this: Potential lawbreaking aside, there's a definite appearance of impropriety in this pattern of behavior.

If you couple the president's obvious distrust of e-mail communications with the fact that both he and other top officials don't use e-mail, a picture begins to emerge. When you add to these facts the notion that other administration officials are conducting official business using unofficial e-mail addresses, the picture becomes clearer. Given this administration's history of avoidance of openness and distrust of democracy, this matter is definitely worthy of further discussion and research. One doesn't doubt that, the more stones we overturn, the more we'll find. And something else lost in this is that these are our employees. They work for us. They may not think so, but the inconvenient truth is that they do. And when they're conducting our business, their communications should be subject to our oversight. Anything short of that, anything that attempts to either cloud or circumvent the transparency that lies at the heart of our democracy is, quite simply, un-American. Do you have something to hide, Mr. President? Does your administration? America deserves an answer.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 09:06 AM
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1. didn't that last (or current) FBI head not use email either? It's rife.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 09:11 AM
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2. Nothing digital, nothing in print allowed to be seen, no oaths, no transcripts..
Edited on Wed Mar-21-07 09:12 AM by havocmom
My ol momma used ta say: If yer afraid what anyone may think yer doing is bad, so ya hide what yer doin, welp, ya must be ashamed of what yer doin and ya KNOW it's wrong.

Momma would be wrong on one count: Shame. The junta doesn't know the meaning of the word. They do, however, know what they are doing is wrong so they hide it for the lowest of reasons: to protect their sorry criminal asses.
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 09:13 AM
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3. K & R
:kick:
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 09:33 AM
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4. the idea that a court would find it criminal for people not to use email
is rather preposterous, imho.

Its just not going to happen.
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MLFerrell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 09:51 AM
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5. If it could be proven that this avoidance...
Of e-mail was deliberately designed to impede record-keeping and accountability to Congress, it doesn't seem that preposterous to me.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 10:12 AM
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8. good luck proving that
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MLFerrell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 10:16 AM
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11. No argument there, but stranger things have happened.
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 01:59 AM
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23. I have an argument
"Per a Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) letter to Henry Waxman calling for an investigation into "whether the White House has violated its mandatory record-keeping obligation under the Presidential Records Act (PRA)"
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 11:07 PM
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19. What I have a hard time believing...
... is that they could conduct business without writing the info down somewhere. They can conduct all business through word of mouth, so either there are notes and memos out there, or they've been illegally hidden or shredded.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 02:43 AM
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25. I Suggest We Subpoena Cheney's Newspapers And
Chimpy's coloring books.
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kaal Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 05:08 AM
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27. hehehe
:rofl:

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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 05:22 AM
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28. Hey, I Was Serious
Seems to be where they keep there notes. LOL
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 05:26 AM
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29. And Rove's TP
Must be where he keeps his notes. Where else would he come up with such dirty ideas?
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kaal Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 06:01 AM
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31. I sat for a moment .....
.....trying to figure out where Rove would have his notes, but couldn't.


And hey I know you were serious...

It shocks me they have got away with using private e-mail for official business for so many years.
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 10:05 AM
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6. subpoena the blackberries!
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 10:06 AM
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7. Very likely the Pres. and at least most of
his cabinet do not use email. Instead, they delegate communications to the minions. I do not recall ever seeing any of them with a cell phone, either. But I bet their security/aids have several.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 10:13 AM
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9. Even w/o emails the glaring results of R's policies are a steaming pile
Go by what they DO not by what they SAY, a French wag once said. An even better one it Behind every great fortune lies scandal.
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 09:33 AM
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37. Millie Ivins also said that
About *, right after he stole the election the first time. As a columnist who watched him throughout his gubernatorial years, she knew what a liar and thief he was.



Cher
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 10:13 AM
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10. If they worked for ANY Corporation this wouldn't be tolerated.
They would be canned.

It's "Canning Time"
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pokercat999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 05:36 AM
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30. Just got a wonderful picture in my head of thousands
of people outside the Capitol Building with signs picturing cans and cans on string attached to poles all demanding Bush/Cheney be "CANNED". Thanks for the thought.


My other, darker thought, is Bush/Cheney ground up and put in cans, but we won't go there....lol.
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 09:34 AM
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38. yes, indeedy




Cher
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 10:22 AM
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12. What did Gonzales, Rice, Chertoff and Rumsfeld do before they took their position?
Did they use email prior to Bush taking office in 2001?
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 04:20 PM
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13. could not agree more
congress should be taking notes.
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Dammit Ann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 04:43 PM
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14. Fantastic post!
Thank you BobcatJH!

K&R.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 05:11 PM
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15. Canthe Judiciary committees subpoena the email server records for
WB43.com? Oh, I'm sure there would be a battle because this is apparently RNC owned, but it seems to me that the Gov't effort to subvert the legal controls of documentation should open the door to permit review of this data.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 10:20 PM
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16. K&R!!!
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proReality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 10:59 PM
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17. Ummm...what about hackers?
How secure could sending their correspondence through the RNC be? I don't know much about computers, but it would seem to be at least a slightly dangerous way to send something they wanted to be kept secret.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 11:02 PM
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18. it's their version of avoiding the 18-minute gap
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emald Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 11:52 PM
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20. S-E-D-I-T-I-O-N, I say it again, SEDITION
These idiots are shredding our country, destroying it in what can only be called an intentional effort. How else can this attorney firing/unitary executive situation be explained? These criminals are trying to take a silent coup, a silent coup against us, the people of this country. These ugly little men are criminals against the constitution, against all this country stands for. Prison is too good.
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 12:12 AM
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21. Highly Recommended
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 01:00 AM
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22. Cheney was connected to Cunningham who was prosecuted by Lam
Cheney was dealing with a phoney company MZM and it was suppose to be a contractor. Cheney gave them 41,000.00 which is the exact price of the boat the contractor paid for the Boat for Cunningham and he was prosecuted by Carol Lam.
www.Americablog.com
They have alot of the information about it.
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 02:02 AM
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24. That would be $141,000...not $41,000 n/t
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 04:49 AM
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26. This seems very Mafia-esque to me, no?
Or, maybe we can get Cheney on tape somewhere saying "Will no one rid me of this troublesome Carol Lam?"

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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 06:08 AM
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32. George "Cagey" Bush
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Maryland Liberal Donating Member (168 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 07:31 AM
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33. Impeachment NOW
Ya know - I think taking Impeachment off the table was the WRONG decision - come on Speaker Pelosi, change your mind, put impeachment on the front burner.
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JPZenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 08:14 AM
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34. Admin Must Have Been Trying to Coverup a Real Scandal
According to their own emails, they knew that there would a political uproar from the removal of the U.S. Attorneys. They also knew that the Dems would hold hearings and investigate. Therefore, they must have had a very good reason for taking on this controversy and removing the prosecutors. I can't believe it was because of one delayed investigation in New Mexico and insufficient prosecutions of illegals (which Bush never cared about in the past).

They must have had a festering puss-filled scab-covered scandal they were trying to keep from being opened.

My guess is that they felt a need to stop the Southern California prosecutor, and the others were removed to generate static and fog so it wasn't so obvious that she was targeted.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 08:35 AM
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35. Secret government is what they have to hide and I am sick of them!
Sick sick sick I tell ya! Sick!
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IWantAChange Donating Member (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 09:19 AM
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36. Who in Congress will ask why the Chimp and crew avoid PRA guidelines?
An innocent enough question that could lead to the RNC servers and the real question - why avoid email and what is being used in its stead?? Face it - this a trail of sorts and our Democratic legislators are going to have this approach this as if they are methodical prosecutors peeling the onion to get at the truth.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 11:18 AM
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39. Which PRA guidelines are you referring to? n/t
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19jet54 Donating Member (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 12:23 PM
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40. Common Government Practice,,,
... in my 25 years in Government, most "sneaky" leaders do not use email. Some Human Resources have led campaigns in some agencies to ban all email because it causes them much loss as illegal activity is brought to light.
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