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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 03:36 PM
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Bush is ignoring Congress. Is Congress ignoring Americans on Iraq?
Edited on Sun Feb-18-07 03:48 PM by ProSense

You Do What You Can

It seems to me that as of one day before Election Day 2006, progressives had a solid grasp of what good things would flow from winning congressional majorities. In brief:

* No more domestic agenda for George W. Bush.
* Oversight hearings.
* Control of the agenda to rame issues in ways favorable to the Democrats for 2008.

Sometime in December, however, people seem to have gotten it into their head that something else would happen. That narrow congressional majorities were actually going to seize control of American national security policy in the face of determined opposition from the President of the United States supported nearly uniformly by his copartisans in congress. Thus, Matt Stoller includes on his list of "groups and individuals" who are "blocking real progress on Iraq," "Harry Reid, who failed to get a vote on a non-binding resolution in the Senate, and doesn't think his original war vote was wrong. It's Bush's fault apparently that Reid voted for the war. Like with his stance on Alito, Reid is giving the impression of action, but not the teeth."

Well, no. Look, Matt Yglesias leading a caucus of 51 Democratic Senators that includes Joe Lieberman, Bill Nelson, and Tim Johnson couldn't get much done in these circumstances either. Nor could Matt Stoller. It's not Reid's fault that there aren't 60 votes for a non-binding resolution on Iraq in the Senate (except in the sense that the "nuclear option" fight was mishandled way back in the day, and Democrats should have tried to abolish filibusters altogether). Blame Lieberman. Blame Jeff Sessions. And, again, ask yourself: If Reid's resolution is so useless, why is the GOP so determined to defeat it? And if it's so difficult to get 60 votes for this measure, what would the point be in proposing something more far-reaching that would only fail by a larger margin? The sad reality is that what Matt and I would like to see the Democrats accomplish is, under the circumstances, very difficult to achieve. Progressives should keep the pressure on for action, but we need to understand that objective circumstances matter. This is a slow boring of hard boards kind of situation, and it's extremely frustrating, but it's also George W. Bush's fault, not Reid's.


I found this comment interesting:

If Stoller wants to blame someone for the timidity of the Democrats, perhaps he should consider our incredibly lame and ineffective anti-war "movement," which has proven utterly incapable of translating the majority of America's manifest frustration with this war into anything like effective pressure. They've totally failed to stake out a credible position to the left of the Democratic leadership, which would (a) probably be substantively correct, at least by my lights (b) more importantly, create room for maneuver so that Democrats could push stronger resolutions but still appear moderate.

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Of course, there was the march in DC which attracted hundreds of thousands of protesters, but how does this translate to pressure and impact Congress?

This is why the Alito filibuster effort was encouraging. It coalesced public opposition to Alito.

Now Senator Dodd is trying to do the same with his restore-habeas.org and Senator Kerry with setadeadline.com

Without a strong effort, we take what we can get:

House passes resolution opposing troop build-up

After four days of debate, the House of Representatives just approved a non-binding resolution that opposes President Bush's plan for increasing troop levels in Iraq.


But understand the limitations of non-binding resolutions, such as this one from November 2005, which are supposed to indicate where the majority in Congress stands and, in this case, send a strong signal to Bush. Does Bush understand signals or pay attention to them?

Unlike the House vote, the Senate couldn't even get pass the debate stage.

The media reports are focusing on Republican Senate heroes and strength and Democratic Senate shortcomings
So the Democrats appear to have gone from wait until 2006 to wait until 2008. The Congress throws up a bunch of non-binding resolutions, Americans throw their hands in the air, and everyone waits, which seems a little arrogant---we will have a Democratic president and super majority in 2008. Sure.

Meanwhile, Steve Clemons is selling Hagel again.

Hagel:

Conservative Voting Records . . .

Senator Hagel has one of the most solid conservative voting records in the U.S. Senate. The following are his lifetime ratings from some important organizations:


Americans for Tax Reform (ATR) 94% (2000 - 2004)
U.S. Chamber of Commerce 96% (1997 - 2004)
American Conservative Union (ACU) 87% (1997 - 2004)
National Taxpayers Union 78% (1999 - 2004)
National Right to Life Committee 94% (2000 - 2004)

Year Hagel's Support of President Bush's Priorities in the Senate
2005 89%
2004 94%
2003 98%
2002 98%
2001 96%
Source: Congressional Quarterly, January 2006

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Hagel

Hagel

Republicans up for reelection in 2008 -- 21:

Alexander, Lamar (R-TN)
Allard, Wayne (R-CO)
Chambliss, Saxby (R-GA)
Cochran, Thad (R-MS)
Coleman, Norm (R-MN)
Collins, Susan M. (R-ME)
Cornyn, John (R-TX)
Craig, Larry E. (R-ID)
Dole, Elizabeth (R-NC)
Domenici, Pete V. (R-NM)
Enzi, Michael B. (R-WY)
Graham, Lindsey (R-SC)
Hagel, Chuck (R-NE)
Inhofe, James M. (R-OK)
McConnell, Mitch (R-KY)
Roberts, Pat (R-KS)
Sessions, Jeff (R-AL)
Smith, Gordon H. (R-OR)
Stevens, Ted (R-AK)
Sununu, John E. (R-NH)
Warner, John (R-VA)

Iraq is a mess and the Americans know this.

Don't wait, hold Congress accountable now. Put the pressure on. These Senators will listen to their constituents. If they don't, there could be a repeat of 2006. But waiting is not an option because people are dying.



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dwahzon Donating Member (338 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 03:42 PM
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1. Excellent post...
And I agree with Yglesias's evaluation of the situation. It is critical that we move the control of the Senate up to 60 votes in the next election.

And it is George Bush's fault - 100% - the buck stops on the Decider's desk.
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mloutre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 03:52 PM
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2. Yes. K & R. n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 08:11 PM
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3. Thanks.
Posted at Daily Kos.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 11:38 AM
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4. Excellent
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 11:42 AM
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5. I'll recommend that!
Unlike my posts, you've offered a road to a potential solution.

Myself, I feel that millions of protesters need to camp out in DC and shut the place down peacefully, until the invasion is recalled and war with Iran made unlikely.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 11:44 AM
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6. LOL!
I just responded to your post.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 11:51 AM
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7. "LOL! I just responded to your post!"
"I'll allow it."
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 11:55 AM
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8. Thanks!
I think this is the call to action that could build a lot of opposition to war. It's time to do something now.

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 08:32 AM
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9. Put the pressure on Congress. n/t
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