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cool user name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:21 PM
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Dear Hillary
Dear Hillary
by Joyce Marcel


(snipped)

CEO profits are up, corporate profits are up, salaries are not up. We know that. The middle class is being destroyed. Right. Our jobs are being exported overseas. We don't manufacture anything any more. No kidding?

People started cheering. But hey, wait a minute. Didn't your husband negotiate GATT and NAFTA? Weren't you warned at the time that the result would be a huge loss of jobs? Remember Ross Perot's description - "a giant sucking sound?"

Well, my love, GATT and NAFTA were the death nails in the coffin of American manufacturing. It seems a bit disingenuous for you to come out against them now.

Come to think of it, Bill invented triangulation, and the stealing/co-opting of Republican programs and language. For power he sold out not only progressive but even liberal Democratic ideals. So even though you're standing up there giving us the straight mainstream liberal schtick, how can we trust that you mean a word of it?

Universal health care - well, finally you're for it. You caved in pretty easily when you started on that issue in the White House - one lousy ad from the insurance companies and you were gone. How do we know you'll stand up to them now?

No Child Left Behind, teaching to the test, yadda yadda yadda. We need to decrease our dependence on foreign oil, yeah, yeah, yeah. Tax the rich. Du'h. The world doesn't respect us any more. Really? When did you notice? Diplomacy good, war bad. It takes a village - by the way, that's not your quote. It's an old saying - did you ever attribute it?

Iraq. Yeah, you voted for it in the fall of 2002. We all know it. Now you say 'No' to escalation and 'Yes' to diplomacy. You complain, "In the beginning, Congress didn't provide oversight." But you were in Congress when the Bush administration started to peddle its lies, and you never spoke out against the war.

And don't try that old "We were lied to" nonsense. A whole lot of us knew that Iraq had nothing to do with Sept. 11. We were saying quagmire long before Bush laid down the first bomb and the first American soldier.

Shame no one asks you the right questions, Hil. Here's one: "Did you - and every other senator who was planning a presidential run - vote for the war because you didn't want to seem weak on defense, as the Republicans were sure to paint you? And did you, especially, vote for the war because you're a woman and even more vulnerable to the 'weakness' tag? Are all those people dead and maimed because you wanted too much to be president? And if, back then, you believed in your heart that the war was wrong (read: incredibly venal and stupid), and you didn't have the courage to speak out the way many of us did, why should we think you'll be a courageous president for these difficult and dangerous times?"

More at http://www.commondreams.org/cgi-bin/print.cgi?file=/views07/0214-30.htm
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:24 PM
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1. HRC did not "cave" on health-care reform
after one ad. Geez, talk about oversimplification. :eyes:
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:28 PM
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2. "...bipartisan support for this resolution makes success in the United Nations more likely,
and therefore, war less likely." HRC
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:40 PM
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3. Actually I'm still in awe at the hard work HRC did on healthcare
in the 1990s. Kinda makes me think she gets it on that particular issue.
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hijinx87 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:54 PM
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5. she was a pioneer in the area of healthcare

her work in the 90's is the foundation upon which all
future health care reform will be built.

just because it didn't become law doesn't mean it was a
failure.

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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:59 PM
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6. Her 'work' on healthcare...
was incompetent.

Sincerely,
Retired healthcare worker.
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hijinx87 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 01:04 PM
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7. Her "work" on health care

was brilliant and ground breaking.

Sincerely,
Employed healthcare consumer
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hijinx87 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:52 PM
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4. interesting

that hillary is held responsible for all of the perceived sins of her
husband's administration, but gets absolutely none of the credit for
it's many triumphs.

people shouldn't be able to have this both ways.

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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 01:05 PM
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8. Ms. Marcel, Sir
Edited on Thu Feb-15-07 01:06 PM by The Magistrate
Seems shocked, shocked, to discover political professionals act from political calculation. It gives the piece a doubtless unintended comedic form.

Of course most votes for the enabling resolution were cast from the calculation that a vote against it would, in the then-current climate, open the person who cast it to charges of being "soft" on national security, and a woman with Presidential aspirations would be particularly vulnerable to the charge. The whole reason the resolution was brought up when it was, just before a Congressional election, was precisely to set this trap for the Democrats. Had the resolution been defeated, the Democratic casualties in the '02 election would have been worse than they were, and the new Congress would have passed an enabling resolution as its first January business, and claimed a mandate from the people for it as the deed was done. The preparations for the invasion would have continued in the interim without missing a beat. Everyone with any understanding of political realities was perfectly well aware of this at the time.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 01:45 PM
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9. Is Ms.Marcel looking for notoriety? It would seem so..
Her bio indicates the road least traveled is her cred at "political" journalism.
Although, she has proven herself expert as a SuperShopper Liquidation Specialist,
even garnering a tv show showcasing her expertise.

http://www.joycemarcel.com/bio.html

And I would guess today's editorial, according to her bio, appearing every Thursday in "The Reformer"
reflects a better balanced approach to the Iraq situation. Unless the editorial was edited by her husband
Randolph T. Holhut, who has been a reporter, photographer and is currently the night and editorial page editor
of the Reformer and an unabashed Kucinich supporter.

"Too many Americans were fooled into supporting an invasion of Iraq. We can't allow the president to do the same thing to justify an attack on Iran -- an attack that would be a catastrophe for the United States beyond anything we've seen so far in Iraq."

http://www.reformer.com/editorials/ci_5231273

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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 02:54 PM
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10. Common Dreams posts two Hillary hit pieces in one day
it shouldn't be a surprise though, - they did the same to Kerry.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 03:26 PM
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11. Only one hit piece characterizes Bill Clinton as a "serial sexual harrasser".
A few less whacks of the hatchet for "balance".
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 03:30 PM
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12. what is surprising
Edited on Thu Feb-15-07 04:11 PM by AtomicKitten
- or maybe not so much - is that some Kerry supporters use the hit pieces to attack Hillary not realizing how hypocritical that is what with all the whining that ensued when the hit pieces were about Kerry; ah, for a teensy bit of insight here at DU.

edited
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 03:59 PM
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13. "some" Kerry supporters, AK
;-)
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