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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 05:49 PM
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Ring of Fire and Sirota, talking about the "kabuki dance" Tauscher spoke about.
They are talking about this:

http://davidsirota.com/index.php/2006/11/25/dem-says-pa... /

In a New York Times piece about one of the great progressive champions, George Miller, we see just how cynical, self-serving and destructive a faction of Democrats will insist on being in the new Congress:

He is liberal, and that pragmatism is always difficult to achieve when youre passionate about something, said Representative Ellen O. Tauscher, Democrat of California and a leader of the partys more moderate wing in the House. But, Ms. Tauscher said, Mr. Miller understands what she calls the very difficult kabuki dance facing DemocratsBut in the end, this is about securing a majority for more than two years, she said. (Emphasis added)

So here you have a Democrat going to the largest paper in the world saying that Democrats are preparing to engage in a kabuki dance, implying that the party will pretend to be as progressive as it promised to be in the campaign, but will really be working to follow the lead of corporate-front groups like the Democratic Leadership Council, the group whose faction Tauscher leads in the House. Then, she goes on to say that the election was not about changing the country - no, it was supposedly about Democrats securing a majority for more than two years. Im all for Democrats building a long-lasting majority - but they arent going to do it with Democratic lawmakers running to reporters reinforcing the stereotype that Democrats stand for nothing other than their securing their own power.


That is rather what Robert Reich was referring to in his post about the fact that he feared Democrats would not stop the surge.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/...

As long as Dems remain opposed to Bushs policies and the Democratic leadership offers some semblance of unity in opposition while at the same time giving Bush the money he wants to carry out his policies the Dem candidate in 2008 can blame Bush and the Republicans, and no Republican candidate who supports Bush will have a comeback. McCains strategy of distancing himself from Bush by arguing for more troops is about to backfire on him, because hes going to get what he wants and America will see just how tragically wrong he is (Edwards has already, adeptly, labeled it the "McCain doctrine.")

Yet wouldnt it be extraordinary if the Dems didnt play this political game, and refused to fund Bushs "surge"?


We need to keep our eyes open. I doubt anyone can stop Little Boots, but we should give it a heck of a try.

We may not be able to stop the corporate tendencies of Ellen Tauscher and her group, but we can call attention to their outrages.

Like the bankruptcy bill:

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/...
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 05:50 PM
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1. Talking about the bankruptcy bill right now.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 05:51 PM
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2. Dems have to be a bee in his bonnet!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 05:55 PM
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5. Now talking about Dems who were told not to talk about opposing trade...
mentioned Sherrod Brown. I remember Robert Rubin once told Dean in 2003 that if he did not quit attacking NAFTA he would have a hard time getting money.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 05:54 PM
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3. Thanks for posting the article and the link.
Pap points out the CAFTA Dems sound like warm and fuzzy Dems, but are hurting the middle class.

Sirota heroes (Pap agrees):

Sherrod Brown
Bernie Sanders
Jim Webb
John Tester
Byron Dorgan
Russ Feingold
Dick Durbin
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 05:54 PM
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4. Is Tauscher begging for a primary challenge??
And in Progressive California of all places?...

NGU.


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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 05:55 PM
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7. Oh, yeah...and I hear she will get one. The blogs are abuzz.
She knows it, too, and she is furious.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 05:55 PM
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6. Ted Kennedy ALWAYS working for the people.
George Miller D-CA working for workers pensions.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 06:53 PM
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8. If Sirota SAYS they are going for the Big Political Spin and all is "Smoke &
Mirrors" then it's probably true. And, we here should adjust our efforts accordingly. Sad as it is.
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Clinton_Co_Regulator Donating Member (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 07:42 PM
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9. I read where my ex-gov Vilsack is running away from the DLC now
I wonder how DU's dlc defenders would explain that?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 08:14 PM
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10. The People Party leaders and the Money Party leaders...Who's who among Democrats.
Here is David Sirota's analysis, in case some missed it in December. He really lays it out.

People Party vs. Money Party

First he lists the People Party leaders.

Freshman Senators Sherrod Brown (D-OH), Bernie Sanders (I-VT), Jon Tester (D-MT) and Jim Webb (D-VA): This is the core group of economic populists who defined the larger populist trend in the 2006 election.

Sens. Byron Dorgan (D-ND), Russ Feingold (D-WI), Ted Kennedy (D-MA) and Dick Durbin (D-IL)

Dorgan has been one of the strongest voices against profiteering by the energy and pharmaceutical companies, and has recently written a book called "Take This Job and Ship It," which is one of the strongest declarations against lobbyist-written trade deals from any sitting Senator in recent memory. Similarly, Feingold has voted against every major lobbyist-written trade deal that has come through the Senate, even airing campaign ads on the issue well before that kind of message became more popular. Kennedy, as the incoming chair of the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions (HELP) Committee is expected to continue his rabid support for the People Party on nearly every economic issue. And Durbin, now the number two Democrat in the Senate, has also had a solid record on trade, and is additionally talking about pushing public financing of elections -- the most effective way to cut off K Street's ability to manipulate Congress.

House Chairpeople George Miller (D-CA), David Obey (D-WI), John Conyers (D-MI), Louise Slaughter (D-NY) and Henry Waxman (D-CA)

Reps. Marcy Kaptur (D-OH), Tim Ryan (D-OH), Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) Nancy Boyda (D-KS), and Bruce Braley (D-IA)



He then talks about the leaders of the Money Party.

Money Party Leaders

Sen. Chuck Schumer and Reps. Rahm Emanuel (D-IL) and Steny Hoyer (D-MD): All three of these men, now in leadership positions, have made very little effort to conceal that they answer to Big Money interests.

Rep. Ellen Tauscher (D-CA): Tauscher has been one of the most aggressive spokespeople for the Money Party, using her position to undercut major Democratic efforts to address core economic issues from a middle-class perspective.

Sen. Joe Lieberman (CfL-CT)


He then mentioned anyone who signed the letter to Denny Hastert, begging to bring the bankruptcy bill to a vote....as being in the Money Party.

Here is who they are, the Blue Dogs and New Dems. He appears to link to the New Dems letter, but the Blue Dogs wrote their own which I posted.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/...

He spends the rest of the article mentioning the "leaners" whom he calls the key swing votes...it is quite long.






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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 09:24 PM
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11. I was listening to Laura and David earlier talking about the
two parties the country is really divided into the populist party and the business party. Maybe it's time for Californians to start roosting on the steps of the home offices of reps like Tauscher when they are in town during Congressional recesses. It's time to let them know that Kabuki theater is not what they were elected for.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 11:46 PM
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12. I think she needs to keep an eye out..
for the blogosphere. There are many posts about her at various blogs. I think Blue America and maybe others intend to mount a primary opponent against her. They are really angry for one thing that she interfered in the Jerry McNerney campaign to push a friend against him in the primary. There has been too much of that cronyism kind of thing.

Here is a post by Kos about her...I think she can look forward to competition.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/12/12/152644/12

"But here's the bottom line -- people like the local net- and grassroots and me argue that Tauscher is increasingly out of touch with Democrats in her district. She'll argue that she's not. Ultimately the Democratic voters of the district will decide who is right.

That's "democracy". And I'm not sure why so many people are afraid of letting people decide. In my perfect world, every incumbent -- especially those in safe seats -- would receive a stiff primary challenge. Otherwise, they become lazy and unresponsive.

So in CA-10, we will have a candidate, and there will be a primary. We'll all make our best cases, and to the victor will go the seat. As it should."
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