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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 03:12 AM
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If Obama gets the nomination, who'd be his best running mate ?
For people who are pained by this type of question I sincerely apologize. The first 4 which come to mind for me are:

John Breaux (Retired Louisiana Senator)
Phil Bredesen (Tennessee Governor)
Wesley Clark (Retired 4 star General / Supreme Allied Commander / '04 Pres candidate)
Brad Henry (Oklahoma Governor

It's wrong I know but logic would dictate that he'd pick a male WASP, it's just an even higher probability than the last several elections.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 03:24 AM
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1. Joe...
... Applepieman.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 03:41 AM
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2. I'm not sure running mate even matters
Edited on Fri Jan-12-07 03:41 AM by Syrinx
I think an Edwards/Kerry ticket may've done better than Kerry/Edwards.

But now that I think about it, how about Obama/Clinton? (Hillary, of course.)
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historicaljoe514 Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 01:49 AM
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30. As bad as it sounds.......
Its one thing to try to convince America to elect teh first black president ever. Its another battle entirely to ask for a woman in the white house. To combine them? May not win any popularity contests, especially in the conservative states. We don't want conservative dems nominated, but we need ones with a serious chance if not a near guarentee of winning. Obama can win, Hilary might win, but not together.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 03:55 AM
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3. Clark, but not sure if he will go for that.
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MrRobotsHolyOrders Donating Member (681 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 04:12 AM
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4. Bill Richardson
If Obama was silly enough to storm the gates of the Democratic party and then give into having a spineless hack like John Breaux as VP, then he'd deserve the whomping he'd take in November.

Bill Richardson isn't the dynamic sounding voice of a new generation I'd like to see as our nominee, but his strengths are huge. Add to all that, that ticket would force the Republican party into the dialogue we've been unwilling to really force them into: the undeniable rascist roots that underpine the activist base of their party. Let's see the reaction in Republican circles in the deep south and the southwest to the idea of an African-American and a Hispanic running the federal government, and get the camcorders ready: it's going to expose to America who these people really are.

People might be rascist in their hearts, but they don't like it to be shown to them. Let's see John McCain run a campaign when he's apologizing week in week out for what a bunch of county chair's in the south are saying to whip the troops into gear.
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athena Donating Member (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 03:51 PM
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38. I agree with you.
Richardson would be a good VP in many ways, the most important of which is his experience. I've been thinking for a long time about this, and I think he would be the best running mate for Obama. I can't see Obama with Clinton, Edwards, or any of the others.

Also, the Hispanic vote is projected to become increasingly important in the next few decades.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 04:25 AM
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5. I think Mark Warner would be the best choice for Obama's VP
Warner could put Virginia in play if he were the number two slot. And while I'd love to see Clark on the ticket, it would highlight Obama's lack of foreign policy experience.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 05:26 AM
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6. Biden could be a likely choice
He's got a lot of foreign experience but lacks a swing state we can pick up. Breaux could be positive but Obama would need to find someone who can deliver their home "swing" state.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 05:53 AM
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7. Edwards didn't make a lick of a difference in NC
Bush won by the same margin in 2000 and 2004.

Generally VPs don't change the electoral picture.
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Ninja Jordan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 07:52 AM
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8. Dick Gephardt, Wes Clark, Bob Graham, Sam Nunn
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ripple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 10:30 AM
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9. Clark, hands down
Biden could be a potential option, as well, only for the foreign policy angle. I think he and Obama would have a difficult time reconciling their ideological differences, since Biden is much more moderate.

Kerry or Gore would be good, too, but I don't think there's a chance of them accepting second billing on any ticket.
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Ninja Jordan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:19 AM
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10. Gore or Kerry would not be good as VP candidates
Two former presidential candidates (one of whom has already served as VP for 8 years) as running mates would look absurd PR-wise.
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ripple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 04:22 PM
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14. Good observation
I was looking at it strictly from a foreign policy experience standpoint. It would look pretty damned odd, I suppose.

Since neither of them would be likely to consider it, anyway, it's pretty much a moot point.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:33 AM
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11. A governor
Which would be a nice balance if a Senator is at the top of the ticket. We have many good ones to choose from too :hi:
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:34 AM
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12. Jesse Owens?
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:59 AM
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13. I don't know if Obama will get the nomination
If he does, I'll support him.

I'm for Kerry, so if Obama gets it I'd hope he'd pick John Kerry. Kerry's got tons of foreign policy experience, and well...experience in general. Something that could bring the proper balance to a Obama candidacy.

We'll see what happens in the next year!!

Obama/Kerry would be a great ticket, though I'd prefer the vice versa.

Second choice for Obama if he lasts and gets the nomination? Probably Clark.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 05:35 PM
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17. Judge Greg Mathis would agree with you
Edited on Fri Jan-12-07 05:35 PM by politicasista
He wrote a commentary a while back about an Obama/Kerry ticket.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 04:49 PM
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15. Well, it shoudn't be Clark.
What a waste of his particular talent set.

Clark, if not president, should be Secretary of State.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 04:55 PM
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16. I agree.
I really admire Wes Clark and his brilliant mind and expertise will be best utilized in a leadership position.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 12:01 AM
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27. Ditto for me!
Clark/Obama Yes!

Obama/Clark No way!

Clark has so much negotiating experience...he would make a perfect SoS if he can't be President.

I can't see Obama being in charge of Clark and the military. Frankly I can't see how the party could elect Obama over some of our more experienced and knowledgeable candidates. Obama has lots of experience to gain before he's ready to take over the job of being the decider in chief!
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 05:39 PM
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18. This is tough...it would have to be someone who complimented Obama
his wife...
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fuzzyball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 05:49 PM
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19. Anyone with mucho GRAVITAS?
Something Obama lacks with only 2 years in DC?
If an in-depth political experience is not a requirement,
then I would prefer Clark.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 06:14 PM
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20. Wes Clark
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Alhena Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 06:30 PM
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21. Mark Warner
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 02:04 AM
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32. If Gov. Warner isn't running for Senator Warner's seat in '08....
I'll bet he will be considered as a top VP contender..
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 06:49 PM
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22. I've been saying this before... Senators won't get elected
unless their opponent in the General Election is also a Senator.

The only way Obama will have a chance to become President is
1) elected VP
2) elected Governor
3) a military hero
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 01:31 AM
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28. Tell that to Warren G. Harding and John F. Kennedy
Since 1896 (first modern election), sitting senators have been nominated 6 times (incl. Bob Dole, who resigned his senate seat during the campaign). 2 won, 4 lost. The two that ran in open seat races won - Harding against a governor (James Cox) and Kennedy against an incumbent Veep (Nixon). The 4 that lost were running against incumbents, who always are more difficult to beat. And arguably, Goldwater in '64, McGovern in '72, and Dole in '96 were running in unwinnable races. I don't think a governor would have won in those climates.

What does any of this mean? Pick the best candidate, period. If the most impressive or most charismatic candidate is a senator then don't let the fact that they're a senator dissuade you from picking them. 6 examples is not enough to make statistical analyses.
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 06:59 PM
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23. Don't worry he's not getting the nomination I assure you and hears why..
the democrat nomination is all but settled as who the nominee is yes you guessed it HILLARY. the DLC is supporting her already Al Sharpton and other African American politicians are on record saying even if Obama gets in they will still be supporting Hillary Sharpton is getting in the race to be the spoiler.
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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 10:19 PM
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24. How many African American politicians have said they're supporting Hillary?
Edited on Fri Jan-12-07 10:21 PM by beaconess
And what difference does it make, anyway? Lots of white politicians have expressed support for various candidates - does that render their candidates unbeatable?

And on what do you base your claim that Al Sharpton is "on record" supporting Hillary for president? I have not seen him ever make such a statement.
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:44 PM
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25. All the ones from NY
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ripple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 01:50 AM
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31. ALL?
Have all of the black leaders in NY really endorsed a candidate who has yet to announce she's running?

I'd like to see a link, if you have one.

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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 09:25 AM
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36. Oh, really?
Edited on Sat Jan-13-07 09:28 AM by beaconess
ALL of the black elected officials in NY have endorsed Hillary and that means she's guaranteed the "democrat" nomination?

As I told you in another thread, you might want to refrain from trying to inject racial politics into every discussion about Obama. Not only don't you have you're facts straight, you're not subtle enough to pull it off.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:56 PM
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26. Clark is the perfect complement to Obama
Wisdom, age, calming effect, foreign experience, plus it's the best way to get him an office in the WH, by running with a sure winner like Obama.
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historicaljoe514 Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 01:44 AM
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29. I still think Edwards
Edited on Sat Jan-13-07 01:46 AM by historicaljoe514
Obama is a smooth talking, good looking urbanite from Chicago. Edwards is a down home southern white boy with an accent. Theyre both relatively young so they may appeal to young voters (similar to Clinton/Gore '92??). Their looks, styles, ages, races, and geographic locations should all increase their popularity.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 02:31 AM
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33. Wes Clark.
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 02:35 AM
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34. Obama/Edwards '08 -
Bringing Sexy Back!
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 03:34 AM
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35. Military experience is his best running mate.
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athena Donating Member (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 03:46 PM
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37. Bill Richardson, governor of New Mexico
Edited on Sat Jan-13-07 03:47 PM by athena
Whatever anyone here may say, Obama is a true liberal at heart (read his first book if you don't believe me) and will be attacked as an extreme left-winger by the media and the right wing. It would help him to have a running mate who is considered a moderate and has lots of experience with foreign-affairs. Richardson is pro-gun, but also pro-choice and pro-environment and has been against the Iraq war from the start. He's also Hispanic and would bring in the growing Hispanic vote.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 04:34 PM
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39. I Have NO Clue! I Would Think He'd Have To Be VP First...
Just my opinion! I like him a lot, but needs more garlic & rosemary!
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jcrew2001 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 04:43 PM
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40. clark
I thought clark was vehamatley against VP, even though i think that is his only chance of getting elected/helping the democratic party get elected.

Obama's running mate should be Al gore, or Oprah, but they are from the same state. Maybe Bayh.

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