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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 01:17 PM
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The PNAC shop is closing....trying to disappear and make themselves forgotten.
Edited on Fri Dec-29-06 01:18 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
The PNAC shop is closing
http://www.newamericancentury.org /

While the situation in Iraq is getting completely out of control, groups and individuals who encouraged America to attack Iraq, declare war on it and occupy it are trying to disappear and make themselves forgotten.


According to news, one of the most important of these groups, the PNAC (Project for the New American Century), has decided to close its office on Washingtons 17th Avenue. Very active with many people coming and going until recently, this office today has only one employee working to complete wind-up operations. The PNACs website has turned into a ghost site; only voice mail remains as an e-mail service.


The PNAC was one of the most prominent and powerful of the new conservative (neocons) movements institutions. The first target they announced was to make the values and policies of real conservatism dominant in the Republican Party and America in general. The aspect applied to American foreign policy was based on establishing democratic values in the Middle East and on redesigning this region in this way, and in respect to this, Iraq became the first target. As a matter of fact, in a letter the PNAC wrote to President Clinton in 1998, they showed Iraq as a target to the President. In one place in the letter, which is in front of me as I write this article, it is stated as follows:


When we look at the greatness of the threat, the success of todays policy, which is tied to the determination of our coalition partners and cooperation with Saddam Hussein, is dangerously inadequate. The only acceptable strategy is one that will remove the possibility of Iraqs being able to use its weapons of mass destruction or threatening to use them. Due to the failure of diplomacy, this means resorting to a military operation over the short-run and overthrowing Saddam Hussein and his regime over the long-run. It is necessary for this to be the aim of American foreign policy. We want you to think about this and to give your administrations attention to the strategy of removing Saddam Hussein from power. It is necessary to coordinate diplomatic, political and military efforts in unison. We are fully aware of the difficulties and dangers of applying these policies, but we believe that the dangers of not applying it are even greater.


These signatures are on this letter that included the policy which President Clinton did not accept, but which President George Bush adopted and put into action via war:


Elliot Abrams, Richard L.Armitage, William Bennet, Jeffrey Bergner, John Bolton, Paula Dobriansky, Francis Fukuyama, Robet Kagan, Zalmay Halilzad, William Kristol, Richard Perle, Peter W.Rodman, Donald Rumsfeld, William Schneider Jr., Vin Veber, Paul D.Wolfowitz, R.James Woolsey and Robert B.Zoellick.


Many of these names are well-known. Some of these people left the stage at their own desire or were forced to do so. Rumsfeld, who resigned last month from the defense ministry, Perle, who left the Defense Policy Board Advisory Committee, and Bolton, who had to leave his post as American Representative to the UN, all were forced to leave. Afghani Zalmay Halilzad, Zoellick and Abrams are still on the stage. As for Wolfowitz, he is playing on a different stage as director of the World Bank.


While some of these individuals who encouraged the Iraq war do not hesitate to blame President Bush who made the decision for war, they do not appear and talk in public so as to be forgotten more easily. A few of them have found themselves another place or another shop and they are trying to sing and sell the same song in a different style. This shop is a think tank known as the AEI.


As I said at the beginning, because the PNACs work is finished, it is closing shop and trying to become invisible...

http://www.zaman.com/?bl=columnists&alt=&trh=20061229&h...
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 01:19 PM
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1. Who is to say that they won't attempt to invade the Democratic party...
via the DLC?
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 02:01 PM
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9. who is to say they haven't already done so?
of democrats, only the DLC is adamantly supportive of this war.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 01:21 PM
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2. Anyone remotely connected to the organization
and that would include their enablers on right wing hate radio, and right wing "christian" hate radio should be tried, convicted and hanged by the neck until dead. They committed war crimes and are domestic enemies of the constitution and should be treated as such.
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A Simple Game Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 03:13 PM
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11. I agree with you BOSSHOG, except for the hanging part.
I lean toward putting them on display in glass cages and wheeling them from town to town. Mandatory viewing for all political candidates and high school civics classes, you get the idea.

I dont watch much TV, but I do watch the clips on Crooks and Liars and on DU. What is becoming obvious is the Republican move to distance themselves from the neocons.

We must not let the public forget that the Republicans allowed and in fact embraced the neocons with their selection of * for their presidential candidate. With the exception of the war that is not going well and is causing bad ratings for the Republicans, they still embrace many of the neocons principles and ideals.
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 10:14 PM
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18. no hanging- lifetime of being pelted w/rotted tomatoes
put them in stocks in the middle of malls (modern equivalent of the town square) and let the public pitch rotten vegies at them, day after day, until they grow old and die. Would serve them right.
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arewenotdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 06:41 PM
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13. I completely agree
Hanged...for...TREASON.
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 01:24 PM
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3. WE won't forget
you goddamn snapperheads
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 01:24 PM
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4. They are going nowhere......
We know where they live, where they work, and what they've done. We won't let them slide.

I agree with BOSSHOG's assessment of the situation.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 01:28 PM
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5. Good luck with "invisible"...
Too many know and too many have copies of the PNAC mission statement. What a bunch of cowards. Dirty rotten little treasonous, rat bastards aren't going to get away by becoming "invisible". Too late for that.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 03:07 PM
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10. That was my question.
Edited on Fri Dec-29-06 03:08 PM by bobbolink
I'm assuming there are many screen shots of all pages of the web site.

Would that assumption be correct?

Guess they're getting ready for the hearings and investigations. :bounce: :hi:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 01:30 PM
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6. They are soooo creepy, these assholes. Guess they will come up
with an incarnation of themselves under a new label. I'll certainly be watching!

Here is some of the Gen. Clark's public denouncement of this group....made years ago......

http://www.rapidfire-silverbullets.com/2006/12/wes_clar...
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 01:42 PM
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7. Cut and run. Or should it be quit and scurry.
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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 01:48 PM
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8. The neocons have dispersed. They haven't gone far.
BushCo and the neocons that run it typically work clandestinely if they don't succeed
above board. Bush's "reworked" strategy in Iraq appears to be a case in point.
Neocons who denounced the war as bungled are now backing an escalation of the conflict,
this time taking on Iran and Syria. They are dressing up the same old policies
with new labels like "Victory" and "Surge."

The neocons are keeping a lower profile. They still make policy at BushCo.
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ldf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 05:31 PM
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12. they have only gone into hibernation
they are still there, and, i'm sure, have every intention of continuing the push as soon as it is politically feasible.

the only thing that would stop them is if, as bosshog so eloquently puts, they are treated as the traitors they are, and punished as such.

but we know that is not going to happen. the democrats don't have the guts to do what needs to be done. and we will regret it.

so they WILL be back.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 06:44 PM
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14. Before the new Congress starts and subpoenas all of their records.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 07:01 PM
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15. Well, Not Kristol. . . . he just plain won't LEAVE.
I've seen him squatting all over the TV, spewing the same warmongering crap that he always does. Why the hell do people keep inviting this loose end?
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 09:06 PM
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16. Kristol heckled in Austin...you gotta see this vid!
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 09:10 PM
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17. Kristol admits that "PNAC is winding down"...video
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 10:43 PM
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19. Fascist scum, every one of them. n/t
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