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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 06:04 PM
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I'm already getting my barf bag ready!
I'm thinking of the usual whoopin' & hollerin', back-slappin', shouts of approval, toothy grins for the TV cameras and patented, automatic, standing ovation when the President makes his entrance into the House Chamber for the State of the Union Address in January. My fantasy would be for every Democrat to boycott the address, or if they must attend, to SIT in grim, stony silence --- maybe turn their backs --- when that treacherous SOB enters the Hall. Or maybe each Democrat could carry a framed picture of a young, brave, DEAD, American soldier sent to death in Iraq by Bush. I swear to God if I see one Democrat smile at or applaud Bush I'm gonna' explode. I don't have a great deal of faith in Democrats anymore so I guess I'd better get the duct tape & bandaids ready to patch myself up after I explode.
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bamademo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 06:08 PM
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1. I'm betting the SOTU Address is where he finally melts down completely
I have fun envisioning just stutters and snarls when he opens his mouth and then all the Dems start laughing.
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cadmium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 07:46 PM
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27. Is there a video of the 2006 SOTU speech around?
That was grotesque. It was full of threatening subliminal messages -- I especially was turned off by the police dog imagery.
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styersc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 06:12 PM
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2. An alternative strategy might be to behave like
mature, intelligent statesmen. Perhaps the Dems should politely and appropriately attend the Constitutionally mandated State of the Union report, and then get on with the business of legislating responibly and responsively according to the wishes of the American people who have chosen them to take over in our country's time of need. Just a thought.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 06:16 PM
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4. Amen.
NGU.


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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 06:21 PM
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8. Don't see too much real Statesmanship any more.
I wonder how the talking heads will spin it if the Dems behave like mature adults.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 06:29 PM
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11. fine, but can they whistle him offstage like the Europeans do
when they're displeased? It's more respectful than booing because, after all, Bubbleboy won't have any idea what they're whistling at!
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 06:36 PM
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14. What is immature about not clapping or not showing up?
That is like saying the majority of Americans are immature for not liking,trusting or listening to Bush anymore, or not watching the SOTU at all.

If DEMS did not clap or did not even show up, they would only be reflecting the attitude of most Amercians.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 06:59 PM
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20. Some will spin it as DEMS agreeing to work with Bush's agenda.
Which is something the public disagrees with.

That or they will say nothing about it all- since when does the media make a note or congratulate us for being nice guys?

If they were silent or did not applaud, some in the media would spin it as DEMS "being disloyal" or "unpatriotic" or "impolite"- the only problem is that would mean they were also saying that slander about ALL voters (aka the majority of viewers who watch commercials) who feel the same.

I reject that not applauding or not showing up to see lies told by a man who defies the very concept of Statesmanship is in itself not statesmanlike.
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styersc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 07:28 PM
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25. The sort of action that you are describing is better suited
for a minimalized, out of power party trying to make a desperate point and not the behaviour of a caucus that the nation has chosen to legislate and lead. I can see the Green Party sitting on their hands to make a point but it looks, and is, petty for a party in power.

The DEMs maintained every incumbent, won every in-play seat and now hold power. The argument is over- we won. Time to pony up the mature, insightful, focused leadership and knock off the behavior of the powerelss.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 07:48 PM
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28. It could be seen as a desparate point if we were not in power- as it is...
...it would merely reflect the attitude of the majority of citizens- who will certainly either not listen or not cheer/applaud.

Sorry- nothing immature about not clapping when you are lied to- or not showing up to be lied to at all. The majortiy of Americans at home will not show up or clap- I doubt they would care at all if elected DEMS didnt either.

You are right about one thing-the nation has chosen DEMS to legislate and lead. What they could care less about is us pretending to believe Bush or pretending to be enthusiastic about him lying.

I dont see what Bush's dog & pony media show has to do with leading and legislating.

Anyway, the DEMS we have never got the courage to do this kind of thing when they were the minortiy either, so that comparison is invalid.

Mature, insightful, focused leadership? - I'm all for it.

But I feel that polite play-acting rather acting in a way that reflects the opinion of the majority- (that Bush is a joke with zero credibility) does not necessarily fit that bill.





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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 12:38 AM
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34. That's right
I think the Dems should exude confidence. The sort of confidence that comes with control. They don't have to boycott but they should also be very sparing in any signs of agreement with the simian's speech.

Julie
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 06:25 PM
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9. While I agree with the sentiment
it should be noted that the "State of the Union" address as we now know today is not mandated by the Constitution. It is required that the President report "periodically".

The exact wording in Article II, Section 3 is:

He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States.


IF Bush decided to mail in his report he could. He'd probably have a signing statement attached though.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 06:43 PM
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17. And nothing in the Constitution that the opposition has to pretend they like hearing more lies.
The general public is sick and tired of hearing Bush lie- so I'm wondering why elected Democrats should have to pretend like they are not also sick of it.

How much longer do we play charade and act like we can "work with" these liars & criminals? The public knows Bush is a charade- I think they would find some honesty on our part refreshing regarding this.

Not showing up or not applauding would refelct the attitude of the majority of the public and would be 100% w/i constitutional bounds.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 06:33 PM
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13. Or, they could reflect the majority of Americans and regard him as the pathetic joke he is.
I doubt the Amercian people would have a problem if DEMS either did not show up or did not applaud- it would reflect the exact attitude of the majority of Americans- including many Republicans.

I know- I know- if we do that, proven liars like O'Reilly and Wolf Blitzer will say even more mean things about us. The difference is that "anti-Bush" is now the view of the vast majority, despite the inevitable media "outrage."

DEMS could respond and say "I did not show up because like most Americans, I was too busy working to listen to more BS" or "I did not clap b/c like most Americans, I either disagreed or did not believe he was sincere"- I know, I know- too blunt, truthful and radical.

Anyway, the Democrats will indeed be as boring, unagressive and uncreative regarding the SOTU as many hope they will- so perhpas we will agree that this thread is pointless.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 06:36 PM
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15. Dems are leading in dignity. They should clap if it's for the people.
Edited on Tue Dec-26-06 06:39 PM by higher class
'It' being some wording in the speech that praised someone other than himself or PNAC. Especially our kids. Differentiate. They shouldn't clap for any kind of lie.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 06:46 PM
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18. Or, they could not clap at all- and claim they believed he was not sincere.
The majortiy of American voters would believe that explaination-if one is even required- and even heartily agree with that sentiment.

I doubt voters out there in TV land will be clapping or cheering- they will probably roll their eyes and mutter "yeah, right."

No one trusts Bush anymore- it is not a stretch at all to say you dont find him sincere.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 07:14 PM
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23. Yes, you're probably right. One nice thought, we don't have to
look at Hastert in the background. And we can watch Cheney act nice to House Leader Nancy Pelosi! Yeah!
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 07:18 PM
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24. LOL! You might be right too-That may be enough!!! n/t
n/t
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 11:20 PM
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32. I'm looking forward to seeing Nancy Pelosi looking over his shoulder
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 06:15 PM
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3. Just remember, Speaker of the House Pelosi will be sitting
directly behind him; that will be worth seeing!
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 06:21 PM
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7. Oh! Good one.
Now I'll be sure to watch. Yee haw.

It might be the only time when he appears human, after all of these years of cringing through the speeches.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 07:44 PM
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26. Do I detect a note of sarcasm?
:spank: :D
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 06:31 PM
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12. Hope she has a broom in her hand to beat him over the head with
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 12:34 AM
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33. I think her gavel will do
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 07:13 PM
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22. Dang, you're right
I can't watch that bozo. He makes me scream! But maybe I'll watch until I see Pelosi right behind him. Doesn't Cheney have to sit next to her? It'd be fun to see the expression on his face.
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 06:17 PM
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5. I dunno...
I don't think Bush is too popular with either party these days.
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wundermaus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 06:19 PM
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6. It doesn't really matter what the Democrats say or do...
during the State of the Union Address by Mr. Bush... it will be an oratory of lies followed by applause from the corporate goons and thugs on both sides of the isle... The True Americans in that chamber will sit still and stone faced in the presence of tyranny and give it nothing but dead air.
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loves_dulcinea Donating Member (384 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 06:39 PM
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16. well said
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 06:49 PM
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19. You are right about one thing- no viewers at home will be cheering- if they even tune in at all.
That is why I dont think it would be so bad if DEMS acted like normal people this time and did the same.
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durtee librul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 06:28 PM
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10. Personally I would like to see
them turn their backs on him when he walks in and then sit down and listen to what he has to say without puking or making faces. I agree they should act like statesmen, but this country was also founded on 'rebellion' and there are politically correct ways to let him know he sucks.

I applaud the idea of holding up either a photo or a name of a soldier who was killed in Iraq from each of their states. That would also say a lot without saying a word.

Silent dissent. Talk about Bushie having a meltdown. I firmly believe either of these two actions would significantly un-nerve him to the point he truly would hear voices in his head...and not from his earpiece either! Think about it for a minute, I don't think he would know what to do and since fat a** Hastert or Frist won't be there to support him, I think it would do wonders. I bet you could hear the applause from living rooms all across America if this were to happen.

So Nancy sits behind him. She could turn and face the wall when he speaks as well.

I'd like to see some guts exhibited in DC instead of the usual bobbing head crap.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 07:10 PM
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21. Past SOTU's
In past SOTU's, most dems sat silent when he spewed his nonsense. I don't know if they'd go so far as to not applaud when he comes in. A golf clap might be pretty eloquent, actually. Sitting in silence through the rest would make me happy.
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wundermaus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 10:13 PM
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29. silence and respect...
for the dead.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 10:47 PM
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30. I think you had better scotch tape yourself up BEFORE you explode.
Edited on Tue Dec-26-06 10:48 PM by Auntie Bush
Pretty difficult to do after the fact! We wouldn't want to lose a single DUer.
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 11:14 PM
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31. or maybe the Dems....
....should jump up and down in their seats and applaud long and enthusiastically after every worthless sentence bush gives; which should be every sentence....

....make the speech last four hours; that'll cost the corporate networks lots of revenue and put people to sleep all at the same time....

....Mock bush with LOVE!....in the background, Nancy must also make funny faces and roll her eyes....and yawn as bush stresses point after point....I'm getting sleepy thinking about it....
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 01:26 AM
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35. Even better....
they could shoot spitballs at him and all chant "Poopy-head! Poopy-head!".

I mean, if you think childish gestures are wise, go all the way.
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