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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 05:51 PM
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AP: Denver May Not Land 2008 Convention
Denver May Not Land 2008 Convention

By JENNIFER TALHELM
The Associated Press
Friday, December 15, 2006; 5:37 PM

WASHINGTON -- Mile-high hopes are dimming that Denver will secure
the 2008 Democratic convention. Democrats posted against-the-odds
victories in several statewide elections last month in the West,
making Denver an attractive choice for a party looking to expand
on recent gains in the Republican-leaning region. But even once-
optimistic Colorado boosters are lowering their odds to 50-50 that
Denver will beat out New York City for the convention.

Colorado Sen. Ken Salazar said this week that in private conversations
Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean had expressed
legitimate concerns about whether Denver can raise the necessary
$55 million and put on a seamless convention.

Colorado Democratic Party Chairwoman Pat Waak said Friday that
whether Democrats will pick Denver "comes down to the practicality
of (Denver) being able to do this."

-snip-

Dean and the DNC have been mum about whether they are leaning
toward Denver or New York. A decision is expected before the end
of the year.

-snip-

Full article: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 06:41 PM
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1. NYC is a bad choice.
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 08:54 AM
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26. not if the primaries are setup for Hillary to win the nomination....thats
why it will be NY Hillary is the Senator from NY and to them that looks good. i agree it's a BAD BAD choice.
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 03:14 PM
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34. It's like Kerry in Boston 2004 - a disaster in the making.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 06:45 PM
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2. New York is a piss poor choice! We don't need another coronation
of a "favorite" son, or daughter.
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 07:50 PM
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3. Keep it in the southwest we are becoming a hotbed for progressive politics!
A little too soon for Az maybe, but why not somewhere in Cali? Actually I thought Denver was a really good choice.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 11:57 AM
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28. Yep - there or in the Southeast.
Someplace where Dems NEED to get their message out in.
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 12:59 PM
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30. Exactly. In NYC or anywhere in the Northeast you're just preaching to the choir.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 07:54 PM
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4. Salazar is DLC
Edited on Fri Dec-15-06 07:55 PM by HawkeyeX
And his mouth needs to be stapled shut.

I take it with a grain of salt. I know in my heart that Denver will be awarded the 2008 DNC Convention.

(I live in Denver, btw)

Hawkeye-X
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:19 PM
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6. Money has always been an issue with Denver's bid
I hope this gets worked out; I know DNC members who will be very pissed off if the convention is in New York. I've heard rumors that the delay in announcing is because people are trying to work out details of a plan to get Denver the money. I hope that's true.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 10:54 PM
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9. ~~standing by, stapler at the ready~~
:rofl:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 03:45 AM
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21. I'm so sick of that
shit. I don't care that he's DLC. He has every right to speak, even if doesn't pass your ever so rigorous ideological purity test.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:13 PM
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5. Salazar said Dean had "legitimate concerns". Unions are a big part.
of the picture. I think the lack of union services nearly killed it in beginning. I think in one spot Salazar or someone admits that they feel Dean is giving every chance...that he would like for it to be there.

But there are practical considerations.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 02:34 PM
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31. That question has already been resolved
There is an union in place for most of the hotels here in Denver
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Kceres Donating Member (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 10:41 PM
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7. Would serve us (Denver) right if we didn't get it.
Colorado has a history of being quite anti-gay in case people haven't noticed. I'd love to have it here in Denver, but I'd sure understand if the DNC picked NY instead.
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SmellsLikeDeanSpirit Donating Member (471 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 10:42 PM
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8. Have it in Cleveland.
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 01:21 AM
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18. NYC and Denver are the only 2 options now
check out wikipedia's entry on how it unfolded

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Democratic_Convention
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SmellsLikeDeanSpirit Donating Member (471 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 02:29 AM
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20. How come the primaries are earlier, but the conventions are later?
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 11:16 PM
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10. It needs to be in Denver, it boost our chances of winning Colorado
It would be a good strategic move.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 11:17 PM
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11. More info on '08 Dem Convention site...
http://demconwatch.blogspot.com /

Bummer if it winds up in NYC, but nothing we can do if Denver can't raise the needed cash..
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vikegirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 11:41 PM
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12. Thank god.
There are too many Salazar (ie, Bush apologist-type) D's here.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 12:52 PM
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29. what is that supposed to mean?
would you rather there were more right wing, bible thumping, neo fascists? We've got quite a few of those in elected office already, seems to me...
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 02:35 PM
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32. Say what?
There are many more progressives that DLC boot lickers here.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 12:25 AM
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13. Today's update sounds cheerier for Denver.
http://www.9news.com/acm_news.aspx?OSGNAME=KUSA&IKOBJEC...

DENVER - Another day, another lengthy phone call with Democratic Party Chairman Howard Dean, but this time leading Colorado Democrats emerged "very hopeful" that Denver can land the 2008 national convention.

Cody Wertz, spokesman for Sen. Ken Salazar (D-Colorado), said the senator joined Denver Mayor John Hickenlooper, Governor-elect Bill Ritter, and others on a one-hour conference call Friday with former Vermont Gov. Dean.

After that conversation, Wertz says Salazar emerged "confident and enthusiastic" that Denver will show Dean it can raise the $80 million needed to hold the convention"
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SmellsLikeDeanSpirit Donating Member (471 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 12:53 AM
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14. Good news. NYC makes no sense at all.
The Southwest is going to be a huge swing region in 2008. More so than the industrial north.
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Lipton64 Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 01:05 AM
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15. Las Vegas seems to me to be a good alternative.....
lots of hotel room AND convention space. Either that or Portland. I would have said California but everybody's sick of California - they have it there too often.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 01:07 AM
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16. It's been down to Denver or NYC for months now.
Sounding better for Denver today.
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SmellsLikeDeanSpirit Donating Member (471 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 04:21 AM
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24. Faux News would have fun with that one. *rolls eyes*
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 01:19 AM
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17. Not only are Colorado's electoral votes a prize, aren't we looking at an open senate seat?
atleast a probable one?
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 01:32 AM
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19. No open senate seats that I know of..
I just checked..

Ken Salazar (D-CO) Next election: Nov 2010
Wayne Allard (R-CO) Next election: Nov 2008

Not "super soon" anyway....

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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 03:51 AM
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22. Allard previously pledged not to seek a third term, take a look
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Wayne...

various stories talk about the speculation on whether he'll run or not
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 04:08 AM
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23. It is strongly rumored that Allard,
who very publically imposed term limits on himself, will retire. Rep. Mark Udall from Colorado's 2nd district, has already announced that he is running and has a war chest of something like 2 million already. Rep. Udall is the son of legendary dem, Mo Udall, cousin of Rep. Tom Udall of NM and the nephew of a former Interior Sec.

Udall is a strong liberal who places particular emphasis on the environment. His record regarding such hot button issues as abortion, stem cell research, the flag amendment and DOMA are good- he has voted pro-choice, pro funding fetal stem cell research, against the flag amendment, and against DOMA. He voted against the IWR and against re-autorization of the Patriot Act.

Even if Allard does go back on his pledge, Udall will give him a real challenge. Allard, btw, is widely regarded as one of the worst Senators of either party.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 02:36 PM
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33. I think he's referring to Mallard's term limit pledge
But I think he's going to break it anyway. He won't get re-elected.

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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 08:14 AM
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25. The only good thing about selecting NYC is that I could go to it
By commuting. Other than that, I would rather have it in a region where we intend to expand politically.
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hopein08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 10:56 AM
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27. If the issue is not being able to raise the $55 million, what city besides NYC and LA could really
raise that much?

Too bad there isn't a way to lower the cost. Otherwise, we are bound to be stuck with conventions in a VERY select group of cities which would be VERY bad, in my opinion.

Plus, if we do it in NYC, we're going to look like copycats of the RNC in '04. And that would be bad.
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