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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 12:59 PM
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Why are we putting everything on Pelosi's shoulders?
I've been thinking about this quite a bit the last few days. It seems that here and in the MSM, that pretty much the whole kitnkaboodle is being laid at the feet of Nancy Pelosi. Why?

Yes, she's the incoming Speaker of the House. Was Denny Hastert getting the same attention and camera face time? Why did we spend so much time on Tom DeLay but Steny Hoyer is barely mentioned?

Maybe what we need to do is put the majority of pressure on the Majority Leader, Hoyer. He's going to have his hands full with this Congress, but he needs to be hearing from us. And like it or not, Rahm Emmanuel is the Caucus Chair and needs a kick in the pants to keep them organized with a common voice.

Let's let Speaker Pelosi do her job and make SURE Majority Leader Hoyer does his!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 01:02 PM
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1. Corpmedia draws a target on one particular Dem leader and some Dems hurry to join
Edited on Fri Dec-15-06 01:06 PM by blm
in by picking everything said apart right along with the RW media spin being used. It's really a shame.

I can be mad as heck at Clinton policies, but would never accept the RW media spin that is used against them.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 01:36 PM
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6. Ahh, the Circular Firing Squad!
Quite familiar with that one. I completely agree. In an attempt to look 'reasonable', it comes back and bites them in the ass every time. Don't Think of An Elephant should be required reading for every Democratic spokesperson and they should have regular media appearance practice sessions...mandatory.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 01:05 PM
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2. When it comes down to it, Pelosi is in charge
Hoyer and Emanuel report to her and you can bet anything they do gets run past her first.

In other words, divert attention to Hoyer and Emanuel if you wish to, but Pelosi is the top dog.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 01:45 PM
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8. Yes, she is and they do
I guess part of what I'm wondering in the 'political sense' so to speak is...Is this the best way for US to be approaching things?

It's not as much diverting attention as it is making sure they get behind her. There have already been several 'Pelosi's taken a hit' type of things (Murtha vs. Hoyer, for one). I'm not convinced that Hoyer would stand behind her and might possibly even undermine her. Dunno. :shrug: But, pushing Hoyer and Emanual not only makes sure it's getting to her because as you said it all gets run past her, it also has the impact that it is coming from supporters.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 02:01 PM
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12. Well, maybe I can ease you mind by 50%
There aren't too many closer relationships in Congress than that of Pelosi and Emanuel.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 02:03 PM
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13. LOL! Rahm learned early on
not to bite the hand that feeds him.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 02:09 PM
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14. everyone has a master to serve
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 01:07 PM
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3. Difference between Pelosi/Hastert and Hoyer/DeLay
Hastert was known to be a puppet for DeLay from the moment he was chosen--there was barely any attempt to pretend otherwise, even by the Republicans. Hastert was just the least likely to get in DeLay's way or to melt down the way Bob Livingston did.

Pelosi is a genuine Speaker, chosen by her party, and holding the real reins to power. Hoyer is a lesser player.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 01:47 PM
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9. Hoyer is definitely the lesser player
I'm just putting it out there that maybe we should be making sure that he does his job and supports her.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 03:14 PM
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16. I get you. I can get behind that. Good post. nt
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 01:07 PM
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4. Rahm is also in charge of messaging, rapid response for the party...see this squib...
Sounds like he gets a lot of power in that area.

December 11, 2006

Emanuel May Handle Party Message

Buried in a Los Angeles Times piece on Nancy Pelosi taking the Speaker's gavel next month is news that "plans are also afloat to move the House Democrats' main communications operation from the speaker's office to incoming Democratic Caucus Chairman Rahm Emanuel of Illinois. He would handle party message and rapid response."

Categories: House of Representatives

http://politicalwire.com:80/archives/2006/12/11/emanuel...
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 01:43 PM
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7. Excellent!
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 01:48 PM
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10. Smart move!
He's got experience in that arena. :)
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 01:11 PM
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5. Pelosi is the top ranking Democratic leader.
While the executive is held by the Republican Party her position is equivalent to Newt Ginrich after the 94 election. I think that it is quite right that the speaker of the house be the leader of the opposition party in this sort of situation.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 01:52 PM
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11. Ugh!
Sorry...I just hate to think that Nancy Pelosi is our Newt Gingrich. Although Hoyer being our Dick Armey isn't too terrible.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 02:29 PM
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15. It is not an issue of personality.
Newt was a creep. However as the leader of the opposition party he got and deserved to get a lot of media attention. So does Pelosi. I think she will be just fine.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 07:01 PM
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17. She is the Captain of the ship
She wanted the responsibility, & she got it.

She has made some mistakes, the worst being Reyes as head of Intel Committee.

That was a mistake of huge proportion.
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Pyrzqxgl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 07:23 PM
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18. Why?
he hasn't even started to serve in that position so how can you say that and what makes you so allknowing?
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