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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 11:27 PM
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John Edwards Gets It (Taylor Marsh in Huffington Post)
John Edwards Gets It
By Taylor Marsh--Huffington Post
Thursday, December 14, 2006
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There's a reason John Edwards is way ahead of the Democratic presidential pack in a recent Iowa poll, and even leads John McCain in a national trial heat. Edwards is reaching people on issues that impact a segment of this country that have been left behind by Mr. Bush: the middle class.
Democratic populism is back, baby. Just in time, if you ask me.
Senator-elect James Webb talked about it during the campaign, then offered a stunning piece on "class struggle" in the Wall Street Journal after the election.
Senator-elect Sherrod Brown ran on it. His next target is BigPharma.
So did Senator-elect Claire McCaskill, as did Senator-elect Jon Tester.
So having Edwards up front and center on the subject simply takes their 2006 campaigns to the next logical level.
Edwards is on a roll. He's got his patter down on Iraq. He's got Elizabeth Edwards next to him, which is a secret campaign weapon as far as I'm concerned. But when he starts talking about poverty, the middle class and how to fix the problem, that's when his rhetoric meets the road.
Card check is just one part of the union story that Edwards favors. What is it? It's part of the Employee Free Choice Act, which has a lot of support in Congress already. There's more about from PaulVA's Kos diary. No doubt the "National Right to Work" people will fight it.
(...)
John Edwards is talking about something that matters, not only to people struggling, but to the entire American way of life. As the middle class goes so goes this country. With the new Congress elected and so many populists now in office, John Edwards is telling a tale that will have many people jumping on board; mainly because they're already waiting for that train to visit their state.
This is going to get interesting.
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Read the rest here.
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diane in sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 11:42 PM
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1. I'm a union member--AFLCIO
I work at two private universities because I am an adjunct faculty member without hope of tenure--the sharecropper of the academic world.

One of my schools has a union, one doesn't.

Guess which one pays me 70% more and will offer healthcare with a certain level of seniority?
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 12:06 AM
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2. I love John Edwards!
I prefer him over the other candidates for the exact reasons listed in the article: He cares about the middle class and the working poor. America NEEDS him in 2009.

Actually, we need him NOW, but (for the time being, anyway), we're stuck with that son of a Bush. :mad:
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diane in sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 12:18 AM
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3. I would like to see John Edwards
as the President or Vice Presidential candidate
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 12:30 AM
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4. ME TOO
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SmellsLikeDeanSpirit Donating Member (471 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 12:30 AM
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5. Edwards isn't VP material.
Edited on Fri Dec-15-06 12:31 AM by SmellsLikeDeanSpirit
I thought this back in 2004. His star overshadowed Kerry everytime they were together. At times I remember wishing the ticket was flipped. Edwards on Hardball a few days ago said being VP isn't any fun. I like Edwards, he isn't my first pick, but he isn't too far off. The problem I see with an Edwards candidacy is his foreign policy credentials, especially going up against a John McCain.
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elemming Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 01:57 AM
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6. Not too early
I am thinking of starting a Harris County Texas for Edwards group.

I remember I joined the Dean group at the end of June and i think we learned we could have been organizing earlier.

There was a study where college professors were conducting an experiment of providing voters information and videos and debates of all the Democratic candidates to Democratic voters and at the end Edwards had emerged as the clear Democratic favorite of these informed voters.
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Riddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 02:18 AM
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7. An Edwards/Clark Ticket wold do exactly what this country needs....
and that's take America away from the wealthy, the big corporations and the politicians and give it back to its rightful owners, the American people in general, and the middle and lower classes in particular. Edwards speaks FOR the people as well as TO the people with his message of hope and optimism.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:26 AM
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10. Sorry - Clark will not be Edwards' Dick Cheney.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 01:33 PM
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13. You speak for Clark ?
:shrug:
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 02:11 PM
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18. Check Wes Clark Jr's posts here.
Not happening. Wes Clark is not going to fill the holes in someone else's resume.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 04:24 PM
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22. Wes Clark Jr sez....
Edited on Fri Dec-15-06 04:25 PM by Catchawave
Dad's not going to be a Team Player, right? I think I remember those posts. How rude he was too :(
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 04:37 PM
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23. Nope he told the truth. You are assuming
Edited on Fri Dec-15-06 04:41 PM by Pithy Cherub
that Edwards gets to choose or be in a position to choose as well as if there is a partnership with Clark now that any Clarkie would be excited by it. Edwards bores me, but what bores me more are people using the excellent skills of another candidate to show the glaring deficiencies in another. Edwards has made no compelling case for being president IMO, and for those that support him, support him fully on his own qualifications! Don't use a better candidate to shore up what Edwards doesn't come to the table with, it diminishes Edwards even more. That is the great irony when I see VP candidates carelessly bandied about, that the candidate needs to be able to persuade on his/her own. It is ultimately an insult to Edwards by his own supporters.

Support your guy and tout his accomplishments, but if you have to tout Clark as a VP, then Edwards is not ready for primetime or to be president. Support him on his own merits - that's the way to play for the best team.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 04:57 PM
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26. I think the suggestion is a compliment to your guy. Geez.
Lighten up. It's just an idea somebody floated. Edwards doesn't NEED Clark if he gets the nomination. Someone thought it might be a good ticket.
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 05:11 PM
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27. Then promote Edwards on his own, If he needs a crutch
and he does on national security, then he has to own his record through the process. It is an insult that Clark with all the valuable experience would work for somebody that wet behind the ears with a record of POOR judgment already on national security. Support your guy fully with the record he has, not the record you would like him to have. Wes will not be Edwards, Dick Cheney. As long as the point is clear, its all good. But there are many who want to keep insulting Edwards, you might wish to tell them support our guy and should he be able to get the nomination on his record, then choose. Clark, Clinton nor Gore need second bananas to shore up their creds right now.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 06:18 PM
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30. LOL!! We'd rather not have OTHER candidate's names and supporters show up
in "Edwards is great" threads!

Oh, but you just can't stay away.

Edwards is a GREAT candidate, and it's quite presumptuous and ERRONEOUS to assert - that he needs any sort of CRUTCH.

Tsk, tsk. it's kinda sad, really.
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 06:29 PM
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32. Then just stick to promoting Edwards, and leave
Edited on Fri Dec-15-06 06:30 PM by Pithy Cherub
the Clark as VP stuff out of it. Edwards can use his I was Wrong op-ed to greater effect in future if people support him for his entire record, not just the parts he'd erase. It's all good! ;)
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 06:38 PM
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33. Why not just stay out of Edwards threads??? Bwaaaaaa!!!
Sorry you're pissed that some people think the General would be a great Number 2!!! You should be flattered...and gracious. Get your panties out of a knot and quit WHINING.
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 06:52 PM
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36. Sorry you think Edwards is lame and needs a crutch.
Keep insulting your guy - you are great at it!
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venable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 08:44 AM
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44. unbelievable
just unbelievable.

As good a person as Clark is, he probably won't ever be asked to be anyone's VP, because he is not especially convincing on the stump. Fair or not, that's the common wisdom.

Methinks Clarkies doth protest too much re Edwards.
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venable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 08:37 AM
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43. Pithy this is just bizarre
Edwards is a fantastically appealing candidate, and there's not a whole lot you can do about that fact.

And, by the way, Clark, bless his heart, is most likely not going to be the nominee. Unless a whole lot changes a whole lot, it's just not very likely.

If the nominee, whoever it is, asks Clark to be his running mate...gosh, I don't know how to tell you this...he'd most likely accept.

Your antagonism is very odd.
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:33 PM
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40. "Edwards is great" threads!
That's an assumption that won't work, because you see, every time there is an "Edwards is great" thread, there are going to be any number of people on the board who don't think that "Edwards is great" (present party included). Now, for those people, assuming they wish to share an opinion, there are two basic options: 1) respond to the contrary on the "Edwards is great" threads, or 2) start threads of their own about how Edwards is NOT great. It doesn't make any difference, since either way partisans and detractors are going to show up to say their piece.

If you want to participate in an Edwards love thread orgy, you should limit your reading and posting on Edwards to the Edwards room in DU groups. That's kind of an insulated environment, all sugar and candy and light all the time (appropriate enough for John Edwards) but it's a good place to love on Edwards all you want without any dissent as to how "great" Edwards is.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 06:13 PM
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29. I didn't assume anything....
Edited on Fri Dec-15-06 06:15 PM by Catchawave
I know how politics "work" because it's the only sport that the spectators get to play (and I thank Craig Crawford for that!).

Some, not all, Clark supporters are claiming Clark will not "fill in the holes on someone else's resume"...Edwards'? Obama's? Clinton's? Gore's? Kucinich's? Vilsack's? Bayh's?

Clark deserves better support than that, here or in any other political forum. It's my problem why I support Edwards and if I can communicate that effectively, but it's not going to be using the "Rovian Astro-turfing Political Playbook for Dummies" tactics that if you repeat lies and misconceptions often, they become true.

Edwards is brilliant and very much a formidable candidate, as is your guy, and every other DUers GUY/GAL. 'nuf said.
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 06:23 PM
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31. Nope not all equal, but
it is up to you to say WHY the candidate is the most qualified - not who he needs as backup. Would not have said anything if Clark wasn't repetively brought up. Keep to supporting your guy and what you perceive to be his assets. Clark's assets are his to distribute as he says not as others Hope - you yourself brought up the tem player stuff. So if you just support your candidate and have a ability to articulate why he should be first amongst the others, go for it. Just don;t use Clark as his knowledge gap. Refer back to Wes Jr.'s remarks, they still stand.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 06:43 PM
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34. Wes Clark Jr doesn't speak for me
nor should he for you either.

You can read my DU journal for my Edwards support, otherwise, I don't play with bullies. :hi:
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 06:51 PM
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35. Alas, honestly my only point is
Edited on Fri Dec-15-06 06:57 PM by Pithy Cherub
Clark is a free agent who should he choose to run for president, is not interested in being Edwards's VP. That statement has my full support. Go forward and promote the daylights out of your guy as a stand alone stand up guy without the need to use Clark as a panacea, that is all. On to a 2008 primary that rests solely on a candidate's qualifications. :toast:
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 06:56 PM
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37. And I'll just say this one more time: Edwards does not need to associate himself
with ANY other candidate at this point. I think you're aiming for a target that's not there...and some sort of reflected glory by seemingly "putting down" Edwards in this way.

So Clark and his supporters sashay out in a snit insisting that they won't go to the dance with Edwards. Read my lips: Edwards ain't asking.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 07:00 PM
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38. You do realize, don't you, that Clark has his
own holes to fill? If you don't, you're not living in reality.
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 08:22 AM
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42. Because this is not about what's best for the country?
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machka Donating Member (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 04:45 PM
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24. Texas for... :)
Check out the Texas OneCorps page at the OAC - looks like there's a Houston group you can join forces with!

There's also a Texas for Edwards presence on the web, if you're interested... Small, but willing to grow! :hi:
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 01:33 PM
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12. Recent poll shows him leading McCain. n/t
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 02:07 PM
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17. Here's an interesting analysis from a GOP website
about McCain and the recent Edwards poll:

http://race42008.com/2006/12/14/nbcwsj-poll-mccain-woul... /



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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 07:10 PM
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39. Gore/Edwards.
which gives Edwards PLENTY of clout to win the next time out as frontrunner.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 07:02 AM
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8. kick
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 07:59 AM
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9. He's caught the GOP's attention too....
From a GOP blog:
http://race42008.com/2006/12/14/nbcwsj-poll-mccain-woul... /

In this new NBC/WSJ survey, Edwards leads McCain by a margin of 43% to 41%. Obviously, two things immediately come to mind: A). Edwards victory is still very much within the margin of error; and B). Poll results just less than two years out from the election are subject to great changes and fluctuations as campaigns progress. However, this poll and others like it can not be merely tossed aside and dismissedthese polls pose a serious, serious problem to the very basic core reasoning of a McCain candidacy. For the past many months, and years even, McCain has had as much presidential support amongst Republican voters because they think he can win. Were it not for his perceived electoral power, McCain would be a nobody in terms of the presidential electionhe would simply be a much older and feebler version of Chuck Hagel. The fact that John Edwards, someone with nowhere near the experience and qualifications of John McCain, can win at this point, considering that McCain is already at or near 100% name recognition and has very little wiggle room to change/develop opinions, is detrimental to the very fundamental logic of McCains run for the White House.

As we here have been predicting for weeks now, ever since the monumental change of dynamics created by the Democrats Senate takeover, McCain as a minority member is now stuck between a rock and a hard place. He has to, on the one hand, try to appease the same conservatives and Republicans hes been infuriating for the past decade, but by doing so bleeds moderate/crossover support. On the other hand, he has to retain his image as a moderate, but by doing so bleeds conservative/GOP support. The major problem with this teeter-totter strategy is that as he flips back and forth, constantly trying to appease both ends of the political spectrum, hes not actually making headway with either side. Hes only damaging his relationship with each side by constantly running back and forth to appease each ones opposite side.

Where once McCain was the GOPs Ace, now McCain is beginning to become a liability. For someone so immensely unpopular amongst grassroots conservative America, who also happens to be losing serious ground in the general election matchups, I just dont see how McCain winds up with the nomination when all is said and done.


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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:28 AM
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11. Groan.
No he does not.

He's a millionaire, not a populist.
He doesn't have any idea what to do in Iraq, since he helped cause it.

The only reason this man is popular is because some thing he's "cute."

Sad.
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citizen snips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 01:36 PM
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14. name politician who is not a millionaire?
Edited on Fri Dec-15-06 01:37 PM by MATTMAN
Edwards position on Iraq is clear he wants to start withdrawing troops.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 01:48 PM
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15. Just like he wanted to send them there in the first place?
No thanks. I'll take a pass. He wouldn't win in my state anyway, so I'll vote my conscious if he's the nominee.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 05:14 PM
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28. Why wouldn't he win in Tenn.?
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 01:48 PM
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16. Apparently you think I, and others,
support a candidate based on his being cute? THAT is sad...not to mention a little offensive but oh well. If that was true, I would probably start a 'Draft Clooney' movement. I guess then I would be supporting based on HOTNESS, not cuteness.

Edwards is leading Hillary right now in Iowa polls. Clark only is receiving around 4%. I think Clark is cuter than 4%. He's not cuter than Edwards but he is cuter than Hillary so he should at least be in 2nd place. Go figure.

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Pragmatic Pilgrim Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 02:12 PM
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19. Yeah, everyone knows homely people are smarter, right?
Sorry, but I get tired of whatever it is (jealousy? a lack of other criticisms? wishful thinking?) that makes some folks accuse attractive people of being hollow. Talk about prejudicial stereotyping!

We tend to forget that anyone who gets within range of a presidential campaign has already climbed a long and steep slope. Their looks may have helped, along the way, but there had to be a whole lot more qualities working for them than that.

And incidentally, the same applies to movie stars who make it to the top. Take a look sometime at those books of head-shots in the office of any modeling agency, and you'll see thousands of anyonymous actors/actresses who are cuter than the few who win the Oscars.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 04:46 PM
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25. FDR was a millionnaire too
and was a populist. Edwards would be a great candidate.
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 08:20 AM
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41. FDR's branch of the family was poorer than and looked down on by the Oyster
Bay Roosevelts. Also, I think he had a close relative from his branch of the family at Harvard who married a hooker, dropped out of school, and became an auto mechanic in NYC, which all the rich kids teased FDR about (IIRC, FDR's nickname became the name of this relative).

So, although he was richer than most Americans, he wasn't really accepted by the upper upper class.

When he met Eleanor, she was a volunteer for a charity that supported Jewish immigrant families and he would go on her rounds to Lower East Side tenements with her. He commented to her that he couldn't believe people lived like that and it does seem that his commitment to helping the poor might have been motivated by these first-hand experiences. Also, in America at the time there was a lot of casual antisemitism. Even Eleanor made antisemitic statements to others and in her diaries. But, FDR never did.

FDR really was quite different.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 09:17 AM
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46. and Edwards
has spent his entire career advocated for the powerless against the powerful. He understand the growing gap between righ and poor. He's a good man and will be a good candidate.
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venable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 08:47 AM
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45. very wrong
he is liked because he's a populist.

writing that he's not, in spite of all the evidence, doesn't make it true.

Look, Edwards is a vastly stronger candidate than yours. He just is. Face it, and leave these threads alone if you have nothing more substantial than 'the only reason people like him is that he's cute'.

the discussion - ie the op ed that inspired the OP - has moved quite a bit beyond your ken, I'm afraid.
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 02:44 PM
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20. Where was this know-it-all 4 years ago?
Democratic populism is back, baby.

It was "back" back then, too. Howard Dean tapped into that vein, and offered authenticity and integrity to boot.

I think he's right about Edwards, but it's not that NEW. And Edwards sure as hell didn't invent it.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 04:21 PM
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21. I give Dean credit for tapping the netroots surge....
He changed politics forever, and that's a good thing, because that's now part of the New Populism :D
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 09:18 AM
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47. Edward ran as a populist 4 years agin
his two Americas theme is not new.
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