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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 05:37 AM
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EEEWWWWW! The McCain/Lieberman ticket.
:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:


http://rawstory.com/showarticle.php?src=http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/001792.php

"When political giants tie up, it's not an accident.

"Lieberman's acquisition of Marshall Wittman, who is very close to John McCain, signals a calculation by some that McCain and Lieberman might tie up for the 2008 Presidential run. The progressive left will start choking at this point, coughing and convulsing uncontrollably -- but reason needs to be gripped for a moment.

"McCain and Lieberman would be a formidable challenge for any Democratic opponent because even though both are now self-described neoconservatives and strongly supported America's botched war against Iraq, to many pundits they would "seem like" the very epitome of centrism.

"John McCain and Joseph Lieberman are also both attracted to Marshall Wittman because of his work and thinking about a 'new campaign of national greatness.'"
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 05:47 AM
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1. A President McCain, with all the power of the Patriot Acts and
the Military Commissions Act, coupled with a likely return to repuke control of the House and Senate (with a republican presidential win), would, in my humble opinion, be worse than the last six years of Bushco. McCain gives me a very bad vibe. And Lieberman with him would be even worse.

However, if we are still stuck in Iraq in two years, the chance of any pro-war ticket winning will be zero.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 05:51 AM
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2. as long as ''moderate'' or ''centrism'' is defined
by lunatics like these two -- then yes they'll be a good bet to beat any comer.

this what comes of running away from words -- words like ''liberal'' and letting others define you.

it's also what comes of not BELIEVING in a good offence.
politics is rough -- and you have to play rough.

but other than that -- we're seeing the future of the republick party politicos -- guys like giulianni, schwarzennegger, pataki, etc -- characters like these will be the face and create the game plan for 08.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 05:55 AM
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3. Good
Let America see 'centrism', up close and personal. It won't be like CT, the right will stay home with that ticket - in droves. Put a good rational Dem up against that - Edwards, Clark, Kerry, Obama - smart social policy, smart foreign policy, end the war, end pre-emptive war as policy - we win hands down. And maybe kill what's been passing for centrism for a good long time. Great ticket - a nut with the football, and the caricature of whiny liberal second in line. That'll go over.
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 09:59 AM
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13. Don't be so sure
You would see the entire MSM falling down on their knees and praying to the new "gods". You would never see anything on TV except how great M/L are and how they would be the greatest thing to happen to the US since Washington. Seriously. Now the Democrats could run a lot of ads, but they would have to overcome the constand 24/7 propaganda from the talking heads. It worked in CT, it could work elsewhere since there are enough idiots that only get their news from the TV.

Best thing is to keep up the relentless attacks on McCain, point out his war stance, his flip flops, etc., and eventually make him so toxic that even the sycophants on TV turn on him. He clearly can't handle being criticized directly and will snap at some point. Lieberstooge is nobody without him.
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ToeBot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 06:21 AM
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4. But the Republicans will still have to field a ticket and the center is such a small place. nt
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Boston Critic Donating Member (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 07:22 AM
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6. What if THIS is the Republican ticket?
Fortunately the Republican right doesn't trust McCain and will be doing their darndest to tear him down.

Meanwhile we should be highlighting just how conservative (very) he really is.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 07:03 AM
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5. Funny...
Weren't wasn't one of the major reasons why the republikkans got their asses handed to them was Iraq?

So, now were promoting the candidacy of two of the staunchest supporters of the war in Iraq.

That's gotta be a record for short attention span.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 07:46 AM
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7. Or the "Most kisses to Bush's Ass" ticket.....
Talk about America being doomed! :scared:
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Coaster City Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 08:18 AM
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8. MSNBC Special Yesterday on McCain
Interesting special on McCain yesterday on MSNBC. Talked about his role in the S & L Bailout and then the story about the theft of painkillers by his wife from the charity she ran. I wonder if there is a connection to Limballs? Could you imagine if Hillary was involved in something like this when Bill was in office? These repukes are without shame and get too many free passes!!
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 01:58 PM
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16. Welcome to DU, Coaster City!
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 08:28 AM
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9. They could fool a lot of voters...
with their spiel about "doing what's right for America", rather than what's best for the Democratic or the Republican Party. Pretend Independents...
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 08:56 AM
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10. Go for it. The Joementum is strong enough to take anybody down.
By 2008, that will be the snoozing geezer ticket.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 01:23 PM
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15. LOL! That's what I'm hoping, too. Hardly a dynamic duo. n/t
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EdwardM Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 08:57 AM
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11. So will this be the "real war good video game war bad" ticket?
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 09:01 AM
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12. Yes, that is a thoroughly nasty combination. nt
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 10:02 AM
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14. CT notwithstanding - Lieberman disgusts most Americans.
The continuing clusterfuck in Iraq will render him a pathetic MacNamara-esque figure.
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lynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 09:35 AM
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17. Don't underestimate Lieberman -
- he has just proven without a shadow of a doubt that he can pull from both parties and pull hard. IMO a McCain/Lieberman ticket could be our worst nightmare.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 09:53 AM
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18. Lieberman can pull from both parties in CONNECTICUT and pull hard
Edited on Sun Nov-26-06 09:58 AM by rocknation
He's not going to be able to take his show on the road. And unless he formally switches parties (which will instantly repel all the Dems), such a ticket is as viable as the rumors about Kerry/McCain in '04.

:headbang:
rocknation
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 12:47 PM
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19. This combo will never happen except in Lieberman's delusions
McCain wants the republican nomination. He's already been prostituting his soul to the Bush-Rove machine. If that machine backs him, McCain will most likely win the nomination. I can see the Bush-Rove machine making a Devil's pact with McCain because 1) they can control him and 2) the Dems most likely will keep Congress and have good odds to increase their numbers in the senate. McCain beats every Democratic Prez candidate to date in the polls, so he would be good odds for the Neo-cons to support. The White House will be the only branch of government that the Neo-cons can hold. Also, after the Republicans held all 3 branches of government, the American people may not want to do that with the Democrats.

If McCain secures the nomination, he and the Bush-Rove machine will pacify the Republican base, the Xtian Fundies, with someone of their liking. Since Lieberman is a Jew and still claims to be a Democrat of some stripe, Holy Joe won't ever be considered. Only the inane pundit or chattering class will advocate for Lieberman. I think someone like Mitt Romney could fill the VP slot, although Romney is a Mormon and that doesn't sit well with the rabid Xtian fundies. Sen. Frist or someone like him may fit the bill for the Republican ticket.
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 05:13 PM
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20. No, the progressive left with laugh and say
"They deserve each other," while the people of the United States go right on to elect a sensible, honest ticket of integrity and character. There's enough on these two fools now tht neither of them is going to win anything.
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thatsrightimirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 05:18 PM
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21. if its mccain/lieberman
then we should put uo obama/ snowe, clark/snowe, gore/snowe, or edwards/snowe
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 07:51 PM
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22. that's just nasty

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NV1962 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 07:54 PM
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23. Let's start the incantations: please, please, please let it be true!
I mean, seriously: what better than to fracture the right-leaning vote than such a ticket?

It'd be a God-sent for the Dem ticket. Plus, one problem less in the Senate, after Lieberman's resounding defeat.

What's not to like about a Lieberman/McCain or McCain/Lieberman ticket? Bring it on!

One more for the Bull Schmooze ticket!
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