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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 08:34 PM
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Does anyone remember when Bill Clinton went to Viet Nam?
It seems it was around this time of year. I remember it for two reasons. The first is the obvious one ..... the country sending a 'draft dodger' (<---- ironic snark/not said in dersison) to start a more open healing process and all manner of our fellow citizens thinking it was a good thing. The second reason is that I was at a business conference in Tampa. The second reason sticks out strongly for me because the event was interrupted frequently when his visit was being shown on CNN. The conference included mostly Americans, but maybe 40% of the attendees were non-Americans; mostly Europeans with a few Asians in the mix, too.

Bill Clinton was treated like a rock star, even in our former enemy country, Viet Nam. He walked among actual people and was loudly cheered by huge crowds. Among the people with whom I was spending the weekend, the general feeling was 'Wow! This is good for the world.'

And now, this weekend, we have ........ a simian-like semi-sentient being over there avering that he's the leader of the free world.

How low we've fallen.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 08:38 PM
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1. After years of work
By the Vets in Congress, who also had made many trips and worked with the Vietnamese. That trip by Clinton was what a good foreign policy team accomplishes, it wasn't just Clinton. Too many people put too much effort into that for waaaay too many years for Clinton to get all the credit.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 08:51 PM
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4. You're completely correct and I was remiss in not setting up this OP to
cite that fact. I didn't intend to imply that Clinton deserved all the credit.

What I was addressing was not so much the back story as the public face of the two trips.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 09:08 PM
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6. Adding, not chastising
I was just reading a different article where Bush only spent 15 minutes at the POW/MIA Center. Not only is that insulting to the people of Vietnam, it's insulting to our own troops and Congress who worked so hard to make that happen. 15 minutes!! That's ALL Bush. Clinton clearly would never be such a completely ignorant ass. Clinton went out to meet people everywhere and experience other cultures. That is ALL him, so he does deserve all credit for that.

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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 10:46 PM
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8. There was an old rock and roll song - 30 Minute Man .........
Does that make the monkey in the man suit a half a man?
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 11:02 PM
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10. Oh my gawd, you just can't stand to see Clinton get too much credit, can you
The guy was/is bigger than life. Accept it.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 11:19 PM
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12. 1982 - 1995
It was the work of many, many people. It didn't happen because of Bill Clinton. I'm interested in facts, and those are the facts.
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theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 08:43 PM
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2. The difference between Clinton and Bush is that Clinton
made friends of our enemies and Bush made enemies of our friends.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 08:45 PM
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3. Something the MSM never touches...
Bill Clinton, one of the most loved leaders in the world, shrubby mcchimpster, one of the most hated.
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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 08:52 PM
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5. Very true. So very true.
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 09:12 PM
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7. 11/2000



The president goes walkabout in Hanoi




President Clinton breaks from lunch to greet the crowd

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/1027611.stm
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 10:59 PM
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9. Nope, but I remember....
one day in November, 1969, - I went to Vietnam.

I never really paid any attention to Clinton.

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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 11:04 PM
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11. Thank you for the nice memory.
"like a rock star"

Indeed he was...and still is...like a rock star.
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