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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 10:49 PM
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"Winter Soldier" to premiere on Sundance Channel Monday
at 9 PM EST.

Winter Soldier

1972 - 96 mins - B&W

Mature Audience OnlyGraphic Violence, Graphic Language, Adult Content

Controversial and seldom seen, this stark, important documentary takes a chilling journey into war’s heart of darkness as it records American Vietnam veterans' testimony of war crimes they either participated in or witnessed. This riveting, emotionally exhausting record of a conference held in January 1971 was shot by a collective of activist filmmakers, including future Oscar®-winner Barbara Kopple (Harlan County, U.S.A.). "Indispensable - almost as potent today as it was when it was released" - Chicago Reader

http://www.sundancechannel.com/film/?ixFilmID=7483&rname=The%20Sundance%20Channel%20Schedule
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fairfaxvadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 10:57 PM
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1. thank you!!!
I'm making a big note right now to Tivo and tape it....
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 11:07 PM
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2. thank you...
I had forgotten when that was going to be aired. Maybe they should send a copy to the White House, for the fucks there to take a peek...see what they missed.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 11:11 PM
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3. I'll probably catch the Thursday at 2:30 am showing.
I keep thinking Kerry has something to do with the Winter Soldier investigation, whether it was to help set the thing up or whatnot. I don't think he testified though. I think he saved that for his Congressional testimony. I know that his testimony in "Going Upriver" was so relevant to our current situation it made be bawl (good thing nobody else was there to see the movie). I can only imagine how hard it will be to watch others' testimony.
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Unbowed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 12:44 AM
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5. If I recall correctly, John Kerry referred to the Winter Soldier investigation in his '71 testimony.
I'm really sick and tired of hearing wingers say that John Kerry accused troops in Vietnam of atrocities. He was pretty clear in his testimony that he was repeating what was told to him by other veterans. He attended the Winter Soldier event and listened to veterans tell stories of absolute horror. Kerry was speaking for these veterans when he testified before Congress, stories that otherwise might not have gotten national recognition. That's not accusing our troops. It's supporting them.

It should be interesting to watch this and see if Senator Kerry made up stories like the wingers accuse him of. Should rebut their lying asses quite well.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 01:52 PM
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6. They've always been rebutted, but truth is not a defense with them.
They just proceed as normal regardless.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 04:01 AM
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4. VVAW Smear Rebuttal
Because lord knows they'll be coming.

"...It is also charged here, however, that numerous phonies gave false testimony at the VVAW's Winter Soldiers Investigation in Detroit, and that only about thirty-percent of the men who participated in Operation Dewey Canyon III were genuine veterans of the Vietnam War. This I very much doubt, and I have searched this website in vain for even a shred of proof to back up these very serious charges.

All this website really has to offer are the personal opinions of historians Burkett and Lewy, who seem to have had no personal contact with VVAW members and are instead relying on information from the Nixon Whitehouse. For obvious political reasons, the Nixon administration did its best in 1971 to discredit Kerry and the VVAW. They came up with one VVAW leader (Al Hubbard) who had lied about his rank and exaggerated his military service. And that was it. They did not identify any other phony veterans, nor did they identify by name a single fraud who provided testimony in Detroit.

Who were all the liars and frauds in the VVAW? No one seems to know. And what exactly were they lying about in Detroit? One or two possibly exaggerated stories aside, the great majority of those who testified in Detroit described the exact same kind of abuses and atrocities that show up in the court-martial record of the war, in memoirs written by Vietnam veterans, and in histories written by academics. I don't understand how this website can so blithely dismiss the Detroit testimony when the stories told in Detroit mirror the documented war crimes committed at places like My Lai, My Khe, and Son Thang, and the documented illegal behavior of units like Task Force Barker and the Tiger Force of the 1-327th Airborne Infantry..."

http://www.vvaw.org/commentary/?id=449
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