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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 04:19 PM
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Poll question: Can a black man win a US Senate seat in Tennessee?

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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 04:24 PM
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1. Voted 'Yes.' Ford's running a better campaign.
I think a lot of professional class folks in Tennessee are going to vote for Ford; also a huge majority of black voters; also a majority of young people; also the forward-looking, future-minded, border-state voter; also a pile of independents.

Corker comes across as a sheister. A whiner. As someone not quite self-realized. Someone visibly inadequate and unSenatorial.

Ford is sure-footed, upbeat, energetic.

Ford wins in Tennessee.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 04:38 PM
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2. I'm curious how many "yes" voters are from TN. Lots, I hope.
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ktowntennesseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 05:03 PM
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3. I voted "If Ford cant... "
SHOULD a black man win a US Senate seat in Tenn? I say its about damn time!

WILL a black man win a US Senate seat in Tenn? Pardon my pessimism but I still have my doubts. Considering a lingering problem with racism (still exists though more subtly, so few see any problem and little is being done to combat it), a strong isolationist tendency to view the world as only extending to the state line, and the volume of GOP money being poured into the Volunteer State for dirty campaigning, I'm not too confident in Ford's chances. I hope and pray we've grown enough in the past century-and-a-half to finally say race is no longer an issue, but I'll believe it when I see it. And if Ford can't pull it off, I can't imagine anyone else who would stand any better chance.
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 09:20 PM
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4. Just a few more days and we'll see
I truly hope he gets it, frankly. I don't know if you've stopped by freepville recently, but they smear the crap out of him. He is anything but a liberal, but that's what they've basically labelled him.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 09:55 PM
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7. Howdy... KTown here, too.
And I don't think there's any more or any less racism here in our state - it's just that we don't have the black and urban (of all colors) voters needed to make this Ford in a rout.

Oh- voted "yes" and am in Tennessee. :hi:

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cmkramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 11:27 AM
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17. Remember what happened in Virginia
Doug Wilder was leading in the race for governor by a substantial margin -- double digits. But when election day rolled around it turned out to be a nail biter. I've heard pundits on both sides of the political divide say that respondents may have told the pollsters what they thought the "correct" answer was rather than telling them they were voting for his opponent; IOW, they didn't want to be pegged as "racist".

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Azathoth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 09:33 PM
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5. It remains to be seen
I think the real question is how much of a "black tax" Ford is going to incur.
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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 09:48 PM
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6. Of course he can.
And if Ford doesn't win this time, there'll be next times for Black candidates in Tennessee and all over the country.
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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:34 PM
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8. Obviously he "can" or it wouldn't be competitive. n/t
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:48 PM
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9. someone like Harold Ford can, difficult but not impossible
the race is close. we just need to figure out how to gain a bit more . it might come down to GOTV
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 06:38 AM
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10. Of course.

Harold Ford may or may not win, but the fact that he is close to doing so means that there is certainly a non-trivial possibility of a black man winning there in future.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 07:00 AM
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11. If Ford can't do it...
He's one of the most conservative Democrats in this Party. His ancestry aside, he's everything the conservative TN voter would want in a Senator: Pro-gun, religious, anti-gay, yadda, yadda, yadda....

Like I said, if he can't do it... no one can.

TC
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Claire Beth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 07:06 AM
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12. Nashville
I voted YES. Harold Ford, Jr DEFINITELY stands a good chance. There are some polls who have Ford/Corker tied and some with Corker a little ahead, and one with Ford running ahead - I will be very disappointed if Ford doesn't win, but I will NOT be surprised.

:dem:
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 10:22 AM
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13. No, but I hope I'm wrong. eom
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 10:31 AM
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14. Why TF not?
eom
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 11:09 AM
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15. The mass corporate media are trying to help Corker
by repeating a claim from a Corker commercial, that Ford accepted money from pornographers and not investigating the charge. This un investigated charge will stick in people's minds making it easier for some to vote against Ford. This is slander by omission, just another example of the mass corporate media's dereliction of duty and betrayal against the American People. The Daily Howler has a nice commentary on this behavior, I will be back in a minute with a link.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 11:17 AM
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16. Here is the link and column
Edited on Tue Oct-31-06 11:17 AM by Uncle Joe
http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh103006.shtml

"HOW TO DRIVE A FORD INTO A DITCH: Yesterday, George Stephanopoulos played part of that famous Tennessee ad during This Weeks roundtable segment. The excerpt included the part of the ad where an actor says this about Harold Ford:

So he took money from porn movie producers. I mean, who hasn't?
But did Ford take money from porn producers? Stephanopoulos and his high-minded panel made no attempt to answer that question; their ensuing discussion only involved their high-minded thoughts about race. We especially noticed this omission because, just a few hours earlier, we were watching C-SPANs Washington Journal when an especially dim-witted Tennessee voter said this about that same ad:

CALLER (10/29/06): That ad had nothing to do with race...That ad told the truth about Harold Ford, when hes up in there preachin in churches on his political ad and hes accepting money from porn producers. Sorryfacts are facts.

Clearly, facts are facts. But what are the facts about that porn movie claim? As weve noted, the Chattanooga Times has called it a lie, saying this about the charge: The fact is, Mr. Ford did receive, but immediately returned, a $3,600 contribution from a disreputable donor, much as many congressmenand many Republicans recentlyhave returned contributions from unsavory lobbyists. (See THE DAILY HOWLER, 10/26/06.)

What are the facts about that porn movie claim? In truth, its almost impossible to say. Even in Tennessee, newspapers have made almost no attempt to fact-check this exceptionally high-profile charge. Meanwhile, broadcast journalists keep playing the part of the now-famous ad in which the actor makes this chargewhile failing to make any attempt to assess the truth of the claim. Voters keep hearing the claim being madeand inevitably, many come to believe it.

On balance, its hard to say who is dimmercallers like the one from Tennessee, or journalists like those on that high-minded panel. But one thing is certain; the people who made that ad about Ford are laughing all the way to the Diebold machine. Ford gets driven into a ditch, while high-minded scribes share their high-minded views about the ascendancy of race. Viewers get to see how high-minded the journalists are. In the process, they also come to believe that Ford is taking money from porn kings.

If people werent willing to be this dumb on TV, it would be hard to dream it up. And yeswere talking about that high-minded panel, not about that Tennessee caller.

(To hear the callers full discussion, just click here, then fast-forward twelve minutes into the tape of Washington Journal Entire Program for Sunday, October 29.)"

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Dob Bole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 01:42 PM
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18. If only he were a famous country singer...
Ford has the machinery and organization, and he's positioned himself and run his campaign well. He just needs a little extra...something to win.

I guess what I'm saying is, GOTV is not going to be enough. Ford still needs to win over a few extra voters, and I don't know if he'll be able to do that in the next week.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 02:19 PM
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19. Well I believe "Your Cheating Heart"
would be an ideal song for Democrats to use against the Rethugs in general.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 04:56 PM
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20. We'll find out in another week. n/t
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