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badgerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:56 AM
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I just called my Senator to ask about post-election...(please K & R!)
note: for the record, the following took place in a low-key, courteous manner on both sides.

I called the local office of my Dem Senator to ask what the plan was if (when!) there were enough election results contested that the election was stolen AGAIN.

ME: "What are we going to do? Are we going to fight it, or are the Dems just going to roll over again and say; 'Well, we'll wait for 2008...'?"

I cited the problems that have been occuring in Ohio, MD and Florida, mentioning that in some places there had been difficulties with provisional ballots and in Florida, the machines were actually flipping the votes.
"What are we going to do? How are we going to handle this? What's the plan?"

....crickets chirping.....

Nice lady on the phone: "Uh....."

ME: "Sounds like you haven't been asked about this before."

NLOP: "N-no...I'm not sure this is something we'd handle on a local level...

ME: "So I should call his DC office? I have the number..."

anyway, a lot of back and forthing, and it seems that if there is any kind of backup plan, nobody knows about it.

The best I could get was the sound of a rapidly clicking keyboard in the background and the assurance that:
"This will certainly generate some discussion!"
:wow: :argh: :banghead:

Is it too late to start lighting fires under the guys that are NOT up for re-election?
Because I really want some assurance from the Democratic side of the aisle that all this effort that I see being put forth on their behalf isn't going to be just pissed away. :grr:
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requiem99 Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 11:04 AM
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1. Of course nobody has a plan. Nobody takes election fraud seriously in this country
And that is a big reason why Democracy is failing fast.
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SouthernBelle82 Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 11:30 AM
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2. Exactly
I can't tell you how many times I've shown reliable evidence to people only to be shot down and said "oh that's not true" and all this other nonsense with nobody really showing any type of evidence to me but yet I have to prove to them it happens and they don't have to prove to me it doesn't. Heh. But I think the only thing we can do is do things locally. Our local reps and kick and scream about it. The only thing I can think of since nobody who has the power can do anything. Not long ago earlier this year Brad Friedman I remember from Bradblog.com posted about how he talked to Senator Feingold about it and I haven't heard not even him talk about election fraud. At least Kerry has tried to work with Senators Boxer and Clinton about election issues and them three are trying to do something.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 11:38 AM
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3. It a a big problem that the Democrats have never hads a plan
Edited on Mon Oct-30-06 11:55 AM by Jack Rabbit
The systematic disenfranchisement of voters is as much election fraud as getting voters to rise from their graves to vote for the Daly machine's or Tammany Hall's slate. Disenfransechisement may take the form of purges in voter rolls aimed at dempgraphic groups that characteristically vote for the opposition (I'm talking to you, Ms. Harris), the unequal supplying of precincts based on voting history (I'm talking to you, Mr. Blackwell), outright intimidation (I'm talking to you, Jeb), or confusing ID requirements (Mr. Blackwell, I'm talking to you yet again).

After disenfranchisement, we can talk about electronic voting machines that count the votes by supply no paper trail to account for the votes. What's worse is that the software has been ruled the property of the manufacturer of the equipment and is beyond public scrutiny. "Trust me," says Walden O'Dell, president of Diebold, as he promises to deliver Ohio to Bush.

As things stand now, surveys indicate that the Democrats will win control of the House of Representatives and stand a better than even chance of winning control of the Senate. Results greatly at odds with those expectations will not be accepted.



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badgerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 11:49 AM
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4. kick...this board moves fast!
:kick:
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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:46 PM
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5. The staff, especially local staff, would not be aware of it....
That's something Dems would know and perhaps key Democratic staffers. But basically I would guess it amounts to using remaining campaign cash to pay lawyers to fight it out.
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