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osaMABUSh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:42 PM
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Does it seem like the Repubs want to lose?
I'm getting a vibe (from RW radio, etc.) that, perhaps, the repubs want to lose (at least, the House). This way in '08 they can blame the whole mess on the Dems and retain the White House and regain the Congress.

Are they thinking that giving up 'control' for two years is worth the long term gain? Plus they'll have the Bush veto just in case.
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blue cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:44 PM
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1. I agree
Our country is headed to hell in a hand basket, and they don't want to take all the blame.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:44 PM
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2. Suckers.
NGU.


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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:50 PM
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6. Yeah, Jeez, we better not let them get away with this.
Better let all your friends know they should vote Republican so we won't get stucdk with any of the blame.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:52 PM
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9. You, for one, have some fishin' to do...
:rofl:

Hey, syb's trying to get ahold of e and get plans moving forward. Please chime in via email. You got my reply to syb's email, right?

NGU.


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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 10:33 PM
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15. Guess I oughtta look at my email.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:49 PM
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3. They are self destructing and I don't think it is planned
All of the crimes and childish acts are catching up with them....I think if the Dems win and start investigating the most important thing the Dems MUST do is make the investigations public and transparant to Americans(if they don't impact National Security)they also need to include some non-partisan investigators...

The best thing they can do is do the opposite of what the Repugs did and that is to return to an open government
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cautiouslywaiting Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:49 PM
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4. Hmmm...
That's not the impression I got. I think they're just incompetent.
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greeneyedboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:50 PM
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5. nah, they just ran out of luck. they blame Clinton now...
so we all know they would blame the Democratic Party even if they won this time.

fortunately, they will have the opportunity to try to pass off that "it's the Democrats' fault!" b.s.. only the moronic and the very very stubborn ideologue will buy that.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:50 PM
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7. There are some that want a divided
government, on the theory it will result in slower spending growth, and other moderations of bad governmental behavior.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:51 PM
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8. no. think about it for a minute
The things that are fucked up are the reasons repubs are losing in so many places. They don't have to try to lose.
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:56 PM
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10. I think we give them too much credit sometimes.
All they want is power.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:56 PM
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11. Nah - Abe Lincoln Described The Problem Perfectly
Then-Congressman Abe Lincoln said this about then-President Polk, who lied us into the Mexican War - but it's a great description of all Rethugs today:

"All this shows that the President is, in no ways, satisfied with his own positions. First he takes up one, and in attempting to argue us into it, he argues himself out of it; then seizes another, and goes through the same process; and then, confused at being able to think of nothing new, he snatches up the old one again, which he has some time before cast off. His mind, tasked beyond it's power, is running hither and thither, like some tortured creature, on a burning surface, finding no position, on which it can settle down, and be at ease."

(Lincoln was roundly disparaged for this speech - sort of the Russell Feingold of his time.)
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 10:00 PM
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12. Lincoln wrote muckracker pieces as a young lawyer if I recall.
Edited on Wed Oct-25-06 10:00 PM by Jim4Wes
He was something else.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 10:04 PM
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13. Wouldn't It Be Lovely?
Do we have anyone today that would say that on the floors of the Senate or Congress? I guess just the usual suspects - Feingold, Conyers... perhaps Waxman, Boxer, Waters.. anyone else?
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 10:10 PM
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14. How about Pelosi?
calling Condi a liar. Or was that Boxer, I can't remember.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 10:36 PM
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16. Boxer, I Think
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 10:39 PM
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17. Byrd.
Tubbs-Jones, Rangel.

OK, I'm running a little dry too.

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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 11:02 PM
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18. They want to lose the wars in iraq and afghanistan
That way, they get to perpetuate their hold on power by governing as a party of permanent war whose followers will settle for nothing les than absolute security from terrorism, so what if smoking or guns kill more people every year.

I have asked, however, what is to be done about the economy. If something is not done to bring back outsourced jobs, increase the earnings of middle-class Americans, reduce the public debt and our trade imbalance, we are doomed. All it takes is China losing faith in the dollar and the whole house of cards comes down. we are sitting on an economic crisis that hs been brewing since 1974, but I am afraid that it will happen when dems are in power and whoever the president is gets compared unfavorably to Herbert Hoover.
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