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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:39 PM
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Why is the corporate news media pushing Obama for 2008?
Edited on Mon Oct-23-06 06:51 PM by OzarkDem
Particularly when we haven't finished the 2006 election.

They've studiously ignored any Dem candidate for president as long as possible. Why are they suddenly covering him? The media fawning is about to make me :puke:

On edit, no offense to Obama, its just gag inducing when the talking heads give this treatment to any candidate. Its so insincere and smarmy.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:41 PM
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1. Diversion from the 06 election
Notice they are pushing the in-experience he has to scare up the base.
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Ninja Jordan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 08:55 PM
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34. Right, because Americans are too stupid to do two things at once
:eyes:
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:42 PM
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2. Because he's not blonde, 50, or married to Bill Clinton
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:45 PM
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4. Diversion, eh?
I'm surprised they're talking about any Dem running for president. Ignoring Dem candidates has worked so well for them. Guess the old strategy doesn't work as well since the GOP is losing ground. Guess they're not ready to roll out McCain yet.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:47 PM
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7. Oh I have no doubt this tide will turn ugly per the media eventually
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:44 PM
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3. Because everybody else who's thinking of running are BORING
Same old tired senators that make a decision on which way the wind blows. and people are tired of that
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:46 PM
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5. Right, not exciting like Bush or McCain n/t
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:56 PM
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12. And Obama is the antidote for that? You're *describing* ...
...him, seems to me.


>>>>>Same old tired senators that make a decision on which way the wind blows. and people are tired of that>>>>

Ok... he's not "old". And he's not the "same".
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 07:06 PM
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17. And Obama has been leading those DANGEROUS Investigations into BushInc
and their covert dealings all over the world.

And I just LOVED the Withdrawal plan for Iraq that he crafted.

Now THAT is exciting and THEN some.
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riona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:46 PM
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6. They'll build him up
then tear him to shreds. It's the media's way.
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VC2 Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:49 PM
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8. becuase they think (or know) he'll lose
Edited on Mon Oct-23-06 06:55 PM by VC2
washington, jefferson, clinton, OBAMA LoL

they're not gonna hang a portrait of him alongside the other presidents in the whitehouse. come on!!

maybe if he sports a blond wig and changes his name to obamaton he might get an electoral vote
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philly_bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:51 PM
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9. Because he's a Lieberman Democrat...
...although considerably more charismatic.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:51 PM
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10. He's the first Af. American candidate...
My theory is they are pushing him in the hope he will get it and that America isn't quite ready for an African American president.

Just my theory... I've noticed the push too.
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:54 PM
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11. er...not the first, actually. n/t
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:58 PM
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13. Shirley Chisholm
Edited on Mon Oct-23-06 06:59 PM by OzarkDem
I always liked watching her at the Dem conventions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirley_Chisholm
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VC2 Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 07:06 PM
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16. Viva Chisholm!!!
she's got my vote (except i was only 7 or 8 at the time) but my 3 olders sisters were behind her all the way :)
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 07:14 PM
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24. Great memories!
She was such a strong and dignified woman.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 07:13 PM
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23. I was too young...
Was she nominated? I'm talking serious bid for nomination here. Nothing against Chisholm, she was clearly before her time.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 07:19 PM
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26. She was always nominated at the convention
Edited on Mon Oct-23-06 07:21 PM by OzarkDem
and garnered a respectable number of delegate votes, with support from the Black Caucus and feminists. But she didn't make the final cut. She used her delegate votes to get a lot of issues into the party platform and focused the party on minority and women's issues.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirley_Chisholm

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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 08:15 PM
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28. She was the first candidate I ever supported.
I was nine at the time.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 07:09 PM
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21. Well, has there ever been a nomination?
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 09:01 PM
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36. Carol Mosely Braun
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 07:01 PM
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14. Because if they had Wes Clark on tv 24/7
he`d blow a big hole through their junior high chit-chat:

Democrats have no message.
Democrats are weak on defense.
Democrats don`t have a plan.
Democrats aren`t tough on terrorism.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 07:04 PM
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15. the issue isn't obama or hillary or the rain in spain, it's the pigmedia
ignore the crack they're trying to sell us (it's drywall!) but let's look right at THEM! strip em naked and see what they're hiding! who are they, what's their record? why are they pushing dope in public when criminals run the white house?
please please don't let the pigmedia continue to play us like a one note fiddle!
please...
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davepc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 07:06 PM
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18. DLC is pushing their last hope
Edited on Mon Oct-23-06 07:07 PM by davepc
at staying relevant in the Democratic party.

After Dean has remade the party and is on the verge to leading to to massive success, the last gasp of the DLC is going to be an attempt to maintain its relevance in the party.

By having one of their own as the sexy 08 candidate, they achieve that goal.
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PeaceProgProsp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 07:07 PM
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19. Pushing him? He is, in fact, popular. If Biden got the coverage
Obama got, I'd ask why the media is pusing Biden. In fact, if Biden got any press, I'd ask that question.

But why, with Obama, is anyone questioning the coverage? If you ask me, Democrats like Obama don't get anywhere near the coverage they deserve.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 07:08 PM
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20. I really think it'ss because the media has found this to be a great
political topic right now. I suspect all this talk will slow down in a short time.
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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 07:10 PM
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22. Because he's INTERESTING!
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 07:18 PM
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25. Only here would anyone complain that MSM is giving a Dem positive airtime
Edited on Mon Oct-23-06 07:18 PM by mtnsnake
Obama has implied he MIGHT run. The man is truly exciting and inspirational, maybe not on this forum, but to mainstream Democrats, and the media is jumping all over it. Stop complaining.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 07:23 PM
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27. Sorry I don't trust them
It's preferable they focus on 2006 then cover the Dems fairly for 2008. You and I both know that's not going to happen.
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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 08:20 PM
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30. It's not like they've been ignoring 2006 elections
It's wall-to-wall coverage. The Obama coverage adds some spice to the stew - and any positive coverage of a Dem makes all of the Democrats look good - especially when most of the coverage of Republicans involves them being dragged before the Ethics Committee, sentencing judges and rehab intake desks.
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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 08:18 PM
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29. Go figure!
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 09:04 PM
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37. Quick, find a boring speaker who look awkward on TV!
Its the DU way! :crazy:
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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 10:33 PM
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42. :-)
How dare they postively cover an interesting, popular, charismatic Democrat with a bright future.

It's a plot, I tell ya, a plot!
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 10:48 PM
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44. No shit.
Whatever one thinks of Obama, he's a charismatic guy who represents the party in a positive fashion. He'll make the "D" after the name of other candidates look better when voters arrive at the polls in a couple of weeks. (And I'm saying this as a Feingoldista.)

But to get back to the original question in this thread: it's my understanding that Obama has been hitting the talk show circuit to plug his new book. The media is causing this hoopla to snowball a bit, because it's a compelling story that doesn't require their lazy butts to do much investigative work.
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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 08:34 PM
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31. $$
The media is all about the stories that capture the hearts/minds/attention spans of Americans in some fashion, thereby pulling in sponsors enough to reap the largest possible financial rewards.
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 08:39 PM
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32. black president scary,vote for republicans
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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 08:45 PM
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33. Yikes - let's hide all our Black Dems so we don't scare the voters!
The danged press is trying to do us in by giving favorable coverage to a Black Democrat. If only they didn't let us keep them out of sight and out of mind so we can win the next election!

:sarcasm:
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 09:11 PM
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38. they really are trying to mess with the heads of an ex-base...
A big section of their base in the deep south is openly racist. It is the same thing they do with Hillary and Nancy. They want to try rallying conservative sexist voters. As Ripley said, "believe it or not!"
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 10:40 PM
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43. Exactly. That's why Pelosi is making news too. It's a coordinated attack to
scare the right.
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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 10:56 PM
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48. Ummm - Pelosi is making news because she'll likely be the next Speaker
of the House. She's news.

Just like Gingrich got lots of play in the weeks leading up to the 1994 election when it looked like he had a chance to become Speaker.

When the MSM DOESN'T cover our leaders, we whine. When they DO cover our leaders, we accuse them of trying to scare the other side.

Jeez!
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 11:01 PM
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49. There's been lots of talk about her San Francisco values today.
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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 11:03 PM
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50. They've been saying that since she became Leader - nothing new
But she is newsworthy right now and it makes sense for the media to cover her. And if they weren't covering her, we'd be bitching to high heaven.
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 11:04 PM
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51. Isn't it coincidence this is coming up again NOW, so close to the election?
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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 11:08 PM
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52. No - the fact that the election is so close is what makes her newsworthy!
Edited on Mon Oct-23-06 11:15 PM by beaconess
She's poised to be the next Speaker of the House and the first woman to serve in that position.

And it's not like there's been a news blackout on her for the past four years. She's gotten plenty of coverage since becoming Minority Leader. She's getting more coverage now because she may not be the Minority Leader much longer but in a couple of weeks might become the highest ranking and most powerful legislator in the country - and arguably, the highest ranking and powerful woman in American history.

I see no evil plot here. Nancy Pelosi is news. She's getting lots of news coverage. That's the way it's SUPPOSED to work.
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 11:12 PM
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53. I must be paranoid then
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 10:49 PM
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45. I didn't realize the Klan was part of the Democratic voting base.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 08:59 PM
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35. Charisma, a powerful message, and a good media staff team
This is what a good, winning candidate looks like. Winning means getting good press and impressing people.

I hope no one who buys the "good media coverage = sell-out" argument is a Deaniac. Remember that the media fawned over Dean for months before they turned on him after Iowa. Dean gets credit for having a good media team that was the main reason his campaign got any traction.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 09:35 PM
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39. Funny... from here it looks like Hillary.
Edited on Mon Oct-23-06 09:37 PM by RiverStone
The new push for Obama is a refreshing change from the constant drumbeat that Hillary is the presumptive Dem nominee. Here on the west coast, my blue friends and I are perplexed at the spinners who are constantly putting Hillary first. I know not one Dem voter who wants her as Pres in 2008??? Maybe Secretary of State? Of course, most of us will vote for the Democratic nominee anyway; but we need a vigorous debate along the primaries road to 08. Now I'm not an Obama operative, but frankly anybody else that gets some share of the spotlight (OTHER than Ms. Rodham Clinton) be it Obama ,Clark, or Feingold is a welcome shift :thumbsup: So give me a break from Hillary already! Good on ya press to be giving some other Dem some attention.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 09:47 PM
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40. Because they're tired of pushing Hillary?
Or because the MSM's coverage of politics is absolutely brainless and irresponsible?

If I were Czarina of DU, I'd declare a moratorium on saying "How about Jo()e Blow in 2008?" and urge people to ask instead, "What vision (not set of disjointed policies, but an overarching vision of linked policies) can we present to the American people in 2008, and once we've decided that, who is the best standard bearer for it?"

Let's leave discussion of candidates for 2008 UNTIL 2008, or at least late 2007. :-)
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 10:20 PM
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41. I'd vote for you as czarina
But what you are asking for is for people to think, and from what I have seen from most Du'ers recently is a profound lack of thinking. I figure the thinking folks are off working campaigns, looking for e-voting theft, or otherwise responsibly enjoined?

Of course, you do know that eventually any czarina would have to be hung, don't you?
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 10:52 PM
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47. Actually, the last czarina of Russia was shot, not hanged
:-)
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 11:13 PM
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54. Choose your posion, Madam
I'm sure we will try to comply with your last wishes, but I won't guarantee that.



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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 10:49 PM
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46. To hype the horserace aspect of this
and avoid putting money, reporters, equipment and thought into examining the issues. It's much easier if all political races are just about who is ahead this week and if the other person notices it yet. Much cheaper to produce, write and edit as well, because it's just a bunch of talking heads, no big graphics or film expense.
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