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Shredr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 02:07 PM
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Why do people hate Hillary Clinton?
I was not politically active during the Clinton administration, but I remember my father (still a staunch Republican) railing against Hillary every chance he got. What is it about her that makes people on the right hate her so much? Did she do something or try to do something?
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 02:09 PM
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1. Smart, intelligent, powerful personality - and a woman. Enough to
strike fear into the hearts of all insecure men.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 02:10 PM
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4. Not to mention
insecure women.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 02:09 PM
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2. She was a strong liberal woman, so the Republicans hated her
Now some Dems think she's a weak conservative woman, so they hate her.

You can't win in politics. There are no popular politicians. Just pre-despised politicians.
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 02:13 PM
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9. Yep ...
Fact is, she was so clearly capable, that Bill Clinton was not even through his first term when they started engaging in a nonstop campaign to tear her apart preemptive to her making a presidential bid ... These people THRIVE on hatred, and Hillary has been target number one for over a decade now ...

As noted ... Being that she isn't a flaming liberal, the more left pole of the dems nips at her heels ...
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 02:09 PM
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3. She kicks their sorry asses
I met her when she was first lady of Arkansas. A very nice person. If you are a mindless hater of her husband or her she probably isn't very nice but who would be.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 02:11 PM
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5. "Staunch Republicans" blame Hillary for EVERYTHING, even more than Bill
My wife's ex-boss is one of 'em. It didn't matter what political topic came up, he'd always bring it back to Hillary. Everything that went wrong with America is a direct result of something Hillary did.

Strong women scare the piss out of most American men, sad to say. We're a pretty backward country in that way (among many ways).

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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 02:35 PM
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23. Way back when I was
in the Navy, I was a STAUNCH supporter of two Navy Balls. It said so in on of my fitness reports.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 02:12 PM
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6. her support for the war against Iraq makes her a total nonstarter...
...for me. I will not support ANY candidate who voted in favor of the IWR unless they recant and explain their vote, and run on a platform of opposition to the war and occupation. Hillary Clinton has done much to enable the PNAC neocons.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 02:12 PM
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7. I don't hate her and I think she certainly has the experience to be
president, I just don't think she is as progressive as I would like and I don't like the idea of 24 years of Bush-Clinton.
89-93--Bush I
93-01-Clinton
01-09--Bush II
09-?--Clinton

We don't need dynasties.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 02:13 PM
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8. The demonization by the right wing.
Hell, they even called her a murderer (Vince Foster).
Pretty strong stuff. It lingers.

That's one reason why I don't want her to run for President. These lunatics will knock down all doors to vote against her. That would skew the results of many, many races down ticket. We need somebody without that kind of baggage to run in 2008. I'm hoping Gore, but it literally could be anybody at this point.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 02:14 PM
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10. And vicarious hatred for her husband. n/t
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 02:14 PM
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11. SHE is brilliant, eloquent, witty, has great foresight, strong-willed.......
or strong-minded AND MOST MEN (and some women) can't stand a woman like THAT.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 04:44 PM
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37. Why is that? nt
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 04:58 PM
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38. SHE, with all her attributes, is very intimidating to a testosterone filled male.......
Edited on Mon Oct-23-06 04:58 PM by Double T
male AND THEY don't like to be intimidated which makes THEM feel threatened and uncomfortable.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 02:14 PM
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12. Republicans hate her with the intensity of a thousand burning suns
but I really don't know why.
Since they don't like her husband because he had an affair, I fail to see the logic of why they dump on the cheated on wife.

:shrug:

However, as I've said before, irrational as it may be, BECAUSE they hate her so intently, I think a presidential run on her part would be needlessly bogged down deflecting that irrational hatred and we would be better served to choose someone else at this time.
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Shredr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 02:23 PM
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19. That's my fear
She will empower the right-wing base because they hate her so much. I was just wondering where it came from.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 02:43 PM
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25. Memory's fuzzy on exact detail,
Edited on Mon Oct-23-06 02:44 PM by Lars39
but iirc, she haed a minor role in bringing Nixon down.
Can't remember whose book that came out in. :shrug:
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 02:16 PM
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13. Sen. Clinton was on the congressional Impeachment Inquiry staff in 1974
Elephants never forget.
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 02:17 PM
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14. Especially women
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 02:17 PM
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15. Look for the original meaning of "scapegoat"...
Hillary was a a designated focus for everything anyone hated/disliked/was mildly annoyed with: feminists/the 60's/feminists/the 70's/lawyers/feminists/Watergate prosecutors/"uppity wimmen"/carpetbaggers/feminists/etc.
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 02:21 PM
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16. You ask a question I always ask.
I asked ny Dad who seems to be crazy when Hillary is mentioned, why do you react this way? He doesn;t ahve a reason, says it's 'visceral'. I say who ever even heard of Hillary until they heard of Bill?
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Shredr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 02:22 PM
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17. Exactly. My dad can't give me a reason either.
I was just wondering if there was something she had done, maybe a few things she tried to get passed or something, anything.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 02:22 PM
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18. because she is a war mongering corporatist DLC mushy middle..
Edited on Mon Oct-23-06 02:26 PM by wyldwolf
... DINO Republican schill who purposely sabotaged her healthcare plan to make progressives look bad and must be stopped so the glorious progressive revolution can get underway...

or...

...because she is a weak flower-child socialist liberal far left commie WOMAN who wants to kill all the babies, especially conservative ones, and she must be stopped so the glorious conservative revolution can move forward...


... did that answer your question?

(edited to correct spelling. No, there was no dark hidden agenda involved and no, I wasn't trying to remove something I wrote before anyone saw it. LOL!)
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Ellis Wyatt Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 02:25 PM
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20. she was viewed
as someone who didn't accomplish much of anything on her own, but rode the coattails of her husband. She was obviously very bright and accomplished academically, but she only worked in the "real world" for three years (though quickly becoming partner at a prestigious law firm).

So, she was viewed as someone who was a "stay at home" mom for 15 years, who had a law background before that and all of a sudden thought she was qualified to completely overhaul the healthcare system.

I think her detracters thought she was overstepping her bounds (as first lady, not "co-president"), was completely unqualified for what she was undertaking, and was just offputting and pompous.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 02:35 PM
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24. Those are sane reasons...
...but they are insufficient to account for the INsane level of hate and bile directed towards her.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 04:43 PM
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36. That makes sense
But I don't think that's it. If anything, conservatives go out of their way to emphasize how brilliant and calculating she is. I think Limbaugh even called Hillary Clinton a genius. Conservatives talk about Hillary w/the same tone of hushed awe & fear that liberals will use when discussing Rove. So, IMO the hatred isn't because they think she's dumb or incompetent, but more because they are scared of her.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 02:28 PM
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21. Because she has ball's & is afraid to use them!
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 02:29 PM
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22. Because of the D behind her name ...
if she were a Repuke, she'd have the drooling followers (look at all the "women" who "swoon" over Gee Dumbya Bush ...) amongst the brain-damaged ...
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 02:45 PM
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26. I am not so sure that all people hate Hillary Clinton, only those
...who believed she should have caved in after four years of relentless attacks and ridicule of Bill Clinton's philandering while occupying the Oval Office. She did not of course and the right wing came to loath that display of strong will and strong character in Hillary Clinton. I admire her for that very strength and the fact that she no doubt could hold her own even against the barrage of attacks from the Bush White House. The democrats need about two dozen more strong politic ans like Hillary in Congress and both houses would soon be purged by the weak[kneed and slim lizard republicans that slither down those haloed but corruption stained halls from the last six years of republican domination.
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stella Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 02:54 PM
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27. She intimidates men because she is very smart .
stupid white men in general are scare to death of women like Hill this is why they attack her.

White southern women dislike Hill because she is a feminist.
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 03:04 PM
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28. A strong woman. Men with tiny dicks are afraid of strong women.
And weak women resent her because she's accomplished a lot.

Whenever anybody hates somebody else for no apparent reason, this is usually it. They're jealous.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:26 PM
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41. When it comess to intelligence? you can count Hil in...
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 03:10 PM
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29. They hate her because she gets to sleep with the Big Dog.
And they don't. :evilgrin:
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Norbu Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 03:25 PM
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30. HRC = Lieberman = neocon

also, is it just me or does she always seem vaguely annoyed to be where she is whenever she talks on TV?

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TriMetFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 03:33 PM
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31. The reason why Republicans hate Senator Clinton is because she.....

1.She is a true Republican as a Barry Goldwater type. He even supported her: Goldwater supporter Hillary Clinton he states: "If he'd(Bill Clinton) let his wife run business, I think he'd be better off."

2.She once made the comment that: I have gone from a Barry Goldwater Republican to a New Democrat, ... —Hillary Clinton

3.She is way to smart for these wacko's that have control of The Republican Party.

4.She had a hand in helping impeach Nixon.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 03:39 PM
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32. well, if i can give an honest assessment, and not necessarily my personal opinion
I think people find the way she speaks annoying and robotic. I think people look at her and see someone who is less of a real person, and more of a hatched-from-an-egg-politician. She's very careful with what she says, and I think that turns people off. She never seems relaxed and when she smiles or laughs it seems very forced.

Now, this isn't necessarily what *I* think of her. But from what I've gathered, people seem to respect hre more than they actually like her. At best, I think people admire her more than they connect with her.
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talk hard Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 04:29 PM
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33. she's got balls
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 04:38 PM
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34. Same reason they hate the "Femi-Nazis!"
Strong, independent women terrify a certain segment of the population.
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cobaindrain Donating Member (731 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 04:41 PM
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35. why do so many within our own party...
Edited on Mon Oct-23-06 04:42 PM by cobaindrain
...seemingly hate her as well and want to see her lose in 2008? Have they been brainwashed by the GOP as well? Do they seriously think Feingold, Kucinich, or Obama have a better shot?

Also, she doesn't bake cookies. And the GOP like there women tamed and chained to the kitchen.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 05:06 PM
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39. I Don't Think Some Of Those People Hate Her. It's How The Media And
repugs are shoving her down our throat!
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lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 05:35 PM
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40. I hate her votes for Bush's disasterous policies. EOM
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:54 PM
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42. Because she is beautiful and she is married to Bill who loves her.
Jealousy makes people spiteful.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 09:17 PM
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43. I don't hate her, though I hope she doesn't run or loses the primary in '08
She has shown her self to be far to willing to sell out to corporate interests for my taste. Two of the many events that lead me to this opinion are her support of Tata, and their very generous contributions, while her state was one of the hardest hit by their practices, and her support of the "bankruptcy protection" act, even though she ducked the final vote (for cover IMO), she voted in favor of it twice before.

Corporations over people, Immoral war of choice, Sure to fire up the opposition, equals no vote from the Greyhound.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 10:06 PM
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44. I don't hate her. I very much liked her as First Lady
Edited on Mon Oct-23-06 10:11 PM by Crunchy Frog
and I respect her as a Senator, though I have some serious disagreements with her.

I do think that she would be a catastrophic choice as a presidential nominee. Not wanting her as our presidential candidate is not the same thing as hating her though.

Edit: Sorry, didn't read the whole question. :blush: I think there has been a deliberate and highly orchestrated RW propaganda campaign going on for the past 15 years to paint Hillary into some sort of Satan figure. I think alot of people on the right hate her almost as a conditioned reflex, simply because all they hear is the Hate Hillary propaganda. It's been awhile since I've made a foray into RW hate radio, but when I used to listen to it, there was always a concerted action to paint her as some sort of anti-Christ.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 10:33 PM
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45. I don't know why.
Edited on Mon Oct-23-06 10:33 PM by AtomicKitten
But it's insidious and something I don't think the Democrats should even try to overcome. It's starting with a negative. Maybe when enough time elapses, things will be different.
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