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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 03:12 PM
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Swiftboating MoveOn
I ran across this article and I remembered something I have been observing for a while now. For something that I hear so much about (MoveOn) I don't ever see what it is that they are actually doing. I don't mean this in a disparaging way towards them its just that if you don't go to their website you don't really see or hear a whole lot from them.

Maybe I'm stupid but stopping and actually listening to what the talking points language is can be very revealing and damned entertaining.

How can we solve the problem with illegal immigration? Well part of the answer is right there in the question-don't make it illegal. What you have is an inventory problem if you can keep track of people coming into this country then you don't have to chase them down in the desert, you can set up places for them to just sign up.

Other examples abound but lets get back to MoveOn

"Left leaning groups like MoveOn.org and George Soros"First off you don't hear Michael Moore used as a talking point any more do you? Second they love doing this linking thing (purposely ignoring their own Four Sisters ) even though there is nothing there. Lastly, What DOES MoveOn do?? You never hear what they are supposedly doing or what they have done you just hear that they are liberal and that they exist.

Amazing, to me anyway.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20061020/cm_thenation/15131132

The Nation -- In 2004, Houston multimillionaire Bob Perry was the largest donor to the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. In 2006, he's using his money to "swift boat" MoveOn.org.

Perry's given $1 million this cycle to the Free Enterprise Fund's "Stop MoveOn.org" campaign, which is running television ads attacking the online organization. Both ads try to link MoveOn to "radical billionaire George Soros," who appears in the spots looking like a crazed burglar.

"MoveOn.org has a radical agenda of tax increases, expanding the welfare state, global governance and socialized government run healthcare," reads a Free Enterprise Fund fundraising pitch. "And since they already own the Democrat Party, they now want to buy Congress and put their puppets in power."

(Like the Swift Boat Vets, accuracy has never been a strong point of the Free Enterprise Fund. An ad they ran about the estate tax was called "blatantly false" by FactCheck.org.)

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Lefta Dissenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 03:39 PM
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1. MoveOn is clearly undermining democracy
by organizing Get Out The Vote efforts!!! :scared: (damned libruls...)
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 03:41 PM
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2. In Thelma Drake's ads (VA-02)...MoveOn is
a "radical liberal group" that supports terrorists AND PHIL KELLAM :nuke:

Funny, the ads never mention MoveOn by name.

While I'm here, George Allen's camp attacked Jim Webb for taking money from out of state by a "controversial liberal group". That would be Daily Kos.

Good grief, I send small contributions to candidates that my 2008 favorite stumps for (uh, that would be Edwards :loveya: )

Are we having fun yet? :D

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 03:42 PM
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3. Impeachmenting. This method of smearing with lies cranked up during
the 90s, and has been a growth industry since then.

I think they blew their own doors out with the swiftboating in a way they will never be able to recover their credibility.
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