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Human Torch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 04:46 PM
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Sweet Jeebus...first CONDI whines, now it's SANTORUM...crybabies!
Santorum, Casey clash in debate
10/12/2006, 3:52 p.m. ET
By JENNIFER C. YATES and KIMBERLY HEFLING
The Associated Press

http://www.pennlive.com/newsflash/pa/index.ssf?/base/po...

PITTSBURGH (AP) Sen. Rick Santorum and Democrat Bob Casey bickered on Thursday about everything from Santorum's residency to immigration in their first debate in Pennsylvania. "Don't be a desperate campaigner," Casey, the state treasurer, told Santorum.

Santorum, R-Pa., accused Casey of relying on the name of his father, the late Gov. Robert P. Casey, and not offering plans of his own.

"I don't know how you can say so many words and say nothing," said Santorum, a two-term incumbent who is the No. 3 Senate Republican. "It's just talking point after talking point."

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Santorum, who has trailed Casey in polls for months, closed with an impassioned speech in which he said he has worked hard and been rewarded by Pennsylvanians and his Republican colleagues with a leadership position. "I'm a passionate guy. I'm tough, I'm a fighter. But you know what? I'm an Italian kid from a steel town. What do you expect from me? I'm a guy who had to grow up having to scratch and claw," Santorum said. "I wasn't born into a family that had a great name. My dad's an immigrant to this country. I've worked hard, just like you do in western Pennsylvania to fight for the things you believe in."

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Hav Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 04:50 PM
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1. .
Oh I think I'm gonna start crying now...what an ass.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 04:52 PM
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2. "So what if I am a corrupt republicon crony bigot pinhead?" - Rickee S.
"Wtop telling the truth about me. Whine whine whine." - Rickeee Republicon
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 04:56 PM
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3. An Italian kid from a steel town.....hmmmm
Sopranos, anyone? :rofl:
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Human Torch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 05:47 PM
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12. "One for the trunk"
In the first or second season of The Sopranos, TV Guide asked some real-life New Jersey goodfellas to comment on the show and its accuracy. When it came to Michael Imperioli's character "Christopher," they referred to his as "one for the trunk"...meaning that he would have been whacked a L-O-N-G time ago in "the real world."

I'm Italian, and one thing I can tell you about Italian kids like Ricky with great certainty is that they get their asses kicked on a regular basis, unless their mommies and daddies have some kind of "pull" to protect them from it...or an extremely threatening big brother...or they're one in a handful of extremely lucky weasels who can fast-talk or buy their way out of an ass kicking.

:patriot:
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 06:16 PM
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14. He's not man enough to carry Bruno Sammartino's tights
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 06:34 PM
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16. "Leave the gun.... Take the Canollie...."
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Gatchaman Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 05:01 PM
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4. "I wasn't born into a family that had a great name"
And thanks to him, that name is literally now synonymous with fecal matter.

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Kierkegaard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 05:01 PM
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5. If you're so tough, scratch and claw yourself a new job.
YOU'RE FIRED, ASSHOLE!
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 05:03 PM
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6. Sicky Rantorum, it really doesn't matter
how hard you work and fight for what you believe in if few others believe in it and if what you "believe" in is stopping men from having sex with beasts, depriving Americans of their civil rights and forcing theocratic laws and policies on everyone. Oh, and your corrupt, lying, cheating, stealing ranting hypocrisy doesn't help much, either. Nice try, asshole, but no sale. I cannot WAIT to see you go down, so to speak, on election night!

And I hope Dan Savage's appearance tonight at a Casey campaign event in Philadelphia for Phillys Against Santorum (he just discussed it in a recent column) is such a big, huge, gargantuan success that you're run out of town on a giant river of "santorum", presided over by the originator of your "nickname" himself, Mr. Savage.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 05:06 PM
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7. Okay, here is how I would debate Santorum.
For my opening statement, I would say, "I would simply like to point out that Mr. Santorum is a Republican. That's it. That's all I have to say. That's all I need to say."

And then I'd point at Santorum and say, "Republican."

And then I'd point at myself and say, "Democrat."

And then I'd point at Santorum and say, "That man is a Republican. Rick Santorum is a REPUBLICAN!"

I'd pause for a moment.

And then I'd continue, "At this time, I'd like to announce that I've told my campaign staff to close-down our offices and go home. Or to volunteer for another Democratic candidate. I don't need them anymore.

"I'm going on vacation.

"I'll be back on November sixth to begin writing my victory speech, and to write condolence speech to Mr. Santorum... the Republican.

"Thank you all for inviting me here.

"I'm headed to the airport to begin my vacation. I'm going to be resting-up for my victory celebration. Thank you all. Thank you all, very much."

And then I would un-clip my lapel microphone, wave to the crowd, smile, and walk out of the room.

Anyone want to hire me for their campaign manager in 2008?


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tenshi816 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 05:08 PM
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8. I don't know why,
but I have an awful feeling in the pit of my stomach that if Diebold could only control the outcome in just one particular race in this election, this is the one that it would be. I have nothing concrete to base this on, of course - it's just that (a) Santorum is the no. 3 guy in the Senate so they'd want to hang on to him, and (b) he's seemed so confident that things are going to come right for him in the election, despite trailing in the polls by several points. How is he so confident that he can turn things around?

I find Katherine Harris's confidence in Florida unnerving too, but not quite as much as Santorum's, because a lot of Katy's confidence stems from the fact that she's batshit crazy. So is Santorum, but Harris makes him look sane by comparison.
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powergirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 05:16 PM
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9. WHA WHA NOW IT'S TIME FOR THE GOOD FREE MARKET REPUBLICAN TO
GET A REAL *&%$#@! JOB!!Don't those repubs tell the rest of us to do that and to get off the "dole." :nopity:
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 02:54 AM
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19. Yeah, he can get retrained to be a dental assistant or something.
I know, he can become one of those lobbyist high-rollers...no, Democrats will control Congress and won't give him the time of day.

Maybe there'll come a time when he wished he had supported a minimum wage hike.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 05:41 PM
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10. Ricky had to scratch and claw?
You'd never know it from the look of those well-manicured hands. If there was ever a time in his when he had to fight, those days are long gone, because now he's just another overpampered member of the inner circle elite, who doesn't remember -- or doesn't want to remember -- where he came from. His major concerns now are gaming the system for $70 tax credits and how to get his kids into the most prestigious schools.
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powergirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 05:45 PM
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11. Don't his parents help support him
and his 75 children? I thought that I read that he lives in this million dollar house in Virginia and he can afford it because his parents help out. So, his parents must have some pretty good scratch laying around. So, was his dad the OWNER of the steel mill that Rick did not work at? :wtf:
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 05:59 PM
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13. Funny you bring that up.
Edited on Thu Oct-12-06 06:04 PM by Bunny
No, his dad did not own the steel mill, but Ricky's Dad was a psychologist at the local VA hospital, and his Mom was a registered nurse. Now, they were probably not rolling in the dough when Ricky was a boy, being government employees and all. But his pathetic attempt to conjure up some sort of hard-scrabble, blue-collar, mill-worker upbringing is pretty much a joke in this steel town.

Bunny,
Daughter of an actual steel worker


edited to add a link to some interesting tidbits about Ricky: http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/060616/16san...
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 06:44 PM
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17. Santorum's wife lived w/ObGyn who had founded abortion clinic
Edited on Thu Oct-12-06 06:47 PM by Divernan
AND was some 40 years older than her AND was the doctor who delivered her ! ! At least according to this article.

Santorum's father was Chief of Psychology at a VA Hospital and his mother was Chief of Nursing. Both his parents are alive and living in Florida now - interesting he never trots them up to PA to campaign for him.

http://citypaper.net/articles/2005-09-29/cover.shtml

The Path of the Righteous Man
How Rick Santorum became the nation's evangelical poster boy.

by Mike Newall


To find out, I rented a car and spent a week crisscrossing the state, visiting and chatting with dozens of people from Santorum's past. I spoke to childhood friends and neighbors, college buddies and professors, former co-workers and ex-bosses, old drinking partners and an angry cousin. I attended the senator's public events. And the more I learned, the more intrigued I became. His past did not entirely fit with the great moral and religious crusader we know today. I needed to meet him, sit down, talk it out.


It is here, five and a half hours west of Philadelphia and 40 miles north of Pittsburgh, that Santorum spent most of his childhood. His parents, Al and Kay Santorum who are alive and well in Florida were employees of the Veteran's Administration Department and went where their work took them. The Santorums arrived in Butler via West Virginia when Rick, the second of three children, was 7 years old. The family stayed for 10 years, moving to Chicago the summer before Rick's senior year of high school. The family lived in a small red brick house on the grounds of Butler's VA hospital.

* * * * * * *
Marie Rice was the chief of personnel at the VA hospital and a close friend of the Santorum family.
"Rick's father was the chief of psychology and his mother was the chief of nurses," says Rice, a gracious, white-haired woman who lives in a senior citizen's development a 15-minute drive along the winding, country roads surrounding Butler. "Kay, his mother, was the head of the family. She knew nursing backwards and forwards and wasn't afraid to openly express her opinions about what the other nurses should and shouldn't do. An extremely intelligent and fair woman. Rick's father was a very opinionated man. Kind, but you know how psychologists can be. They have their opinions and those are the only ones that are right."

* * * * * * * * * * *
When she met Rick, Karen was living with Tom Allen, an OBGYN who in the early-1970s cofounded Pittsburgh's first abortion clinic. It was a somewhat unusual pairing. Allen was the doctor who delivered Karen. She began living with him while an undergraduate nursing student at Pittsburgh's Duquesne University. She was in her early 20s, he was in his 60s. "When she moved out to go be with Rick, she told me I'd like him, that he was pro-choice and a humanist," said Allen, an elderly but vibrant man, during a brief conversation on the porch of his Pittsburgh row home. "But I don't think there's a humanist bone in that man's body."
(End of snippets).
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 06:23 PM
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15. Sheezzz...what's next pRicky? Gettin' some cowboy boots & fake ranch
You're the effin incumbent Senator trying to play the poor wittle underdog card.

All image...no substance to the "scratch and claw" persona, my dear.
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jhrobbins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 02:16 AM
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18. I know that my imagination is often in overdrive, but I have thought
recently what with all the talk about the rapture and the Anti-Christ and what he is supposed to look like and be like, etc and I keep picturing guys like Rick Santorum and Ralph Reed and that guy from the Family Research Council - guys of that ilk. The AC is supposed to be goodlooking, charming, overly religious and evil to the core and in my mind, these guys fit that bill.
This was just a musing of no significance.
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 06:56 AM
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20. It was a good speech
except that he doesn't have a shred of credibility left. I bet most Pennsylvanians rolled their eyes and mumbled, "yeah whatever"
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