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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:37 PM
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Is that Oliphant on with Franken?
Edited on Thu Oct-12-06 01:38 PM by madfloridian
Praising James Baker? I just turned it on, and I heard him say someone was as "rough" as Howard Dean. What did he mean by that?
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:38 PM
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1. He's A Regular On Thursday
So it probably is him.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:39 PM
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2. Boy, he loves Baker...
Franken is sort of kind of maybe a little bit questioning him on it

Wow
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Ninja Jordan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:40 PM
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3. Oliphant is weird
nm
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 02:00 PM
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4. God, he is annoying today.
Franken finally starting really questioning when he kept praising Baker's new book.

I think Franken was saying why didn't Baker speak up about the massacre of those who stood up against Saddam..and over 300,000 killed because they did as we requested.

I think Franken said why didn't he speak up about going into Iraq again, and I thought he said why didn't Bush, Sr. speak out more.

I also wonder why more did not speak out, even on our side of the aisle. Some of our top Democrats HAD to know Iraq was under our control. They HAD to know it.

We bombed Najaf in 1999, Baghdad as well.

I guess fear of being called unpatriotic is very strong. I was called that by my church in 03, and I survived it.

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Mr Rabble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 02:03 PM
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5. James Baker is a big time thug.
This kind of shit makes my blood boil. Here is a guy who has been behind god knows how many deaths, not to mention deceptions over the last 40 years, and there are well meaning Democrats praising him.
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 02:40 PM
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6. exactly - and how is it that people heavily involved in our govt
whether elected official or reporter etc can not all be in revolt against the likes of baker
do they intentionally hide their heads in the sand or are they far too comfortable or weak to do or say anything about it?

literally boggles the entire mind
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Mr Rabble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 02:50 PM
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7. I just don't know. I am just as perplexed as you.
Baker is a thug of the highest order. He has been consigliere for the BCF for years; he is the Bin-Laden and Saudi american "fixer". And yet no one ever mentions any of it.

Same thing with all of these creeps I guess.
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 04:59 PM
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8. it is basically all the same
Edited on Thu Oct-12-06 05:02 PM by faithnotgreed
the entire govt is basically made up of just these types
the "thugs" as you say are rampant and dont get called out while the dems? aside from john conyers and henry waxman (incl their staffs) and maybe a couple others i also just dont know

i get that their roles arent all the same and there are shades of grey but the wrong of the republican is just so extremely wrong that i have no idea what people in govt or media are doing

the ones with any power clearly arent stopping it - i had always felt that if i had chosen my lifes work to represent the people in some way that even if i didnt have overriding or far reaching power that could never stop me from strongly voicing what the truth that is going on
and yet we hear hardly a peep of consistent conviction and doing everything to at least bring attention to the vast destruction that is going on

there are pieces here and there but my goodness - if you have ANY voice (esp govt or media) then you should be risking your comfort or whatever it is that you think you would be risking to stop this cabal

so basically if you voted for the sham that was the war resolution then for whatever reasons you really werent paying attention and really werent representing justice and sanity
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