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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:59 AM
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14 of 19 September 11th hijackers are on the no fly list
14 dead guys are on the list. Should we be glad or should we be pissed the other five aren't on the list?

Heard on Franken show this AM.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:09 PM
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1. What I'd like to know is
how many living guys are pulled aside because they have names similar to the dead hijackers.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:16 PM
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3. well what i'd like to know is
how many are pulled aside because they have common english or irish names that are commonly used by bad guys as an alias

it must be thousands every day, my husband is one of them, and it takes a long time to clear him to fly even tho he's clearly innocent because of all the other hordes of people in secondary who have also been pulled aside
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:11 PM
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2. the other five are probably dead
it seems highly probable to me that at least some of the names of the hijackers we're told were on these planes were actually stolen IDs or unknown persons who borrowed someone else's identity to get on these planes

assuming there is any logic to it at all, could be that the thinking is, if we question the other folks traveling by these names, eventually we'll find out the story of how the 911 hijackers got these particular passports to use (were they stolen or actually loaned by someone who wanted to help the cause, whatever)

on the other hand, assuming there is any logic at dept of homeland security is a fairly big stretch, since these are the guys who think stopping everybody with a passport issued in the name of bob johnston and ed kennedy is going to put a stop to terra

i don't got to hear it on franken, my husband is on the list

it seems like nonsense to me but it's obvious each time when he's detained that they are looking for a physical description that matches his name/passport -- his passport has never been stolen but he has a very common name shared by millions and probably also easy to remember for use as an alias also -- it's fortunate in his case that he clearly doesn't match the description, however, it still takes 1-2 hours to clear whenever he flies
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:17 PM
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4. You'd think that
after a while they'd figure out that your husband, Mr. Common Name, isn't the Mr. Common Name they're looking for without a couple of hours each and every time. Maybe a letter from the head of Homeland Security?

Really, these people are so incredibly incompetent at what they do, that it's a joke.

A couple of years ago the name "Edward Kennedy" was on the list, and the Senator from Massachusetts with the same name kept on being stopped. You'd think it would have occurred to security that, regardless of their personal opinion of Senator Kennedy and his politics, that he'd be one of the last persons in the world who'd be hijacking an airplane.
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Drifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:20 PM
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5. Were any of these the ones ...
from Iraq ?

Oh wait, never mind.

Cheers
Drifter
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