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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:09 PM
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Per MSNBC, there's nothing to be done EXCEPT diplomacy. How
ironic, considering the US doesn't know what that is.
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:15 PM
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1. I just heard them say something about
..."what John Bolton has to do..."


:scared: :scared: :scared:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:19 PM
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2. I missed that but know the blivet may appoint him again, but someone
or some entity will have to pay for him. This admin is so damned disgusting imo.
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:32 PM
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4. I think he's still in for now.
His reappointment died in the Senate but I think he's in until January. At least, if they don't find some way to ram him through again.

Fucking asshats.
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Taoschick Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:24 PM
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3. Diplomacy didn't work with them in the last 13 years
They lied to us and kept on doing what they wanted. As much as we want to blame Bushco for the insane little bastard having a nuke, he'd been working on it for years and wasn't going to stop no matter who was in office. If Kerry were President, Kim Jong-Il would still be doing what he considered in his best interest.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:35 PM
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5. I think you are so wrong, but applaud your right to say that.
Who are they in the last 13 years because we're talking about 2 parties. Elaborate or get off the pot.
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Taoschick Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 01:02 AM
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10. They
Are the North Koreans. They've lied to the world continually since 1993. They didn't just snap their fingers and "poof" develop a nuclear weapons program in the last 6 years. While the world was pooring aid into NK to offset the famine, Pyongyang was spending money on their enrichment program. It's just stupid to try and blame this on ANY American President. We are not their masters and they don't have to step and fetch for us whenever we demand it.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:39 PM
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6. I watched a retired diplomat on Book TV on cspan.
His name is John Bradley Kiesling, and his book is "Diplomaacy Lessons: Realism for an Unloved Superpower.

http://www.booktv.org/feature/index.asp?segID=7429&sche...

Diplomacy Lessons: Realism for an Unloved Superpower
John Brady Kiesling
Description: John Brady Kiesling discusses his decision to resign from his post as a political counselor with the U.S. embassy in Greece. Mr. Kiesling, who served 20 years as a foreign service officer in several countries, publicly resigned in February 2003 because of the Bush administration's determination to go to war with Iraq. During his presentation, Mr. Kiesling talks about the impact of his resignation and the value of foreign service work in general. The talk was hosted by George Washington University in Washington, DC.

Author Bio: As a foreign service officer, John Brady Kiesling served in Israel, Morocco, Armenia, and Greece. He held several other positions at the State Department over his 20 year career. Mr. Kiesling currently writes a monthly column for the Athens News (www.athensnews.com ). For more information on Mr. Kiesling and his work, visit www.bradykiesling.com .

________________________________________________________________________________________

Idon't know if cspan puts this on a video later or not, but he went through a very good explaination of how Presidents do things for one reasononly, and that is to advance their own political ajenda, and when their plan ceases to serve that purpose, they back away.

He said whensomeone like Joe Wilson attempts to expose them, the "Full Mooners" go full blast to destroy them. Usually they do illegal things to accomplish their goal, and then you have the chance to got them.

I only wish I could rmemeber all the important things he said, and how Diplomacy is the ONLY solution to solving the worlds problems.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:52 PM
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7. Diplomacy! What a concept! I believe Kerry thought that might be
important during the debates, but the blivet never got that hang of that 'diplomacy' thing.

GWB: I honestly cannot stand him.
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spag68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:58 PM
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8. If you "can't stand him"
go to the library and get any book about his family since about 1910, then you will be really sick.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:28 AM
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9. You remind me of me.
And I live in TX but hail from NY. And I love to read, so I'm pretty
much up to speed.
Welcome!
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