Brit Hume: Bill Clinton's inappropriate behavior toward a subordinate

[Human Torch]

...Hume conveniently forgets that Monica Lewinski was 24 in 1997......not sixteen. Blow it out your fair and balanced ass cheeks, Frankenstein...

Hume is Wankerific on Foley
By: John Amato @ 11:19 AM - PDT



http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/10/01/hume-is-wankerific-on-foley/

Brit Hume's performance today was very predictable, but very sad. I mean Republicans have had a bad week and all, but Republicans can always count on Hume to be a good little trooper. I mean really….

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(transcript via TP)

HUME: It is very serious misbehavior on the part of Congressman Foley, whether it stems from arrogance or just weakness of the human flesh is another question. It’s probably worth noting that there’s a difference between the two parties on these issues. Inappropriate behavior towards subordinates didn’t cost Gerry Studds his Democratic seat in Massachussetts, nor Barney Frank his. Nor did inappropriate behavior toward a subordinate even cost Bill Clinton his standing within the Democratic Party, even though indirectly he was impeached for it. Mark Foley found out about this, was found out to have done this, and he’s out of office and in total disgrace in his party.

WILLIAMS: It took him long enough, don’t you think?

HUME: What do you mean?

WILLIAMS: Well, gee, they knew about it way back. No action was taken. That’s the question.

HUME: What we don’t know —

LIASON: Barney Frank was not with a subordinate. We should correct that. We should correct that.

WALLACE: Yeah, I think we should point that out. I don’t think Barney Frank was involved with a page.

WILLIAMS: Yeah.

HUME: It is worth noting that we don’t yet know exactly what they knew and when they knew it. This — obviously, we’ll find out this week.

WILLIAMS: Well, it’s an argument among Republicans who have a very different time record here for what Hastert is saying.

WALLACE: Alright, guys. You can take it outside afterwards

[rfranklin]

1. Yes, Monica was an adult and initiated the relationship....

but those little distinctions do not deter the Fox fulminators.

[alcibiades_mystery]

20. Initiated the relationship?

Gimme a break, man. He was the president of the united states. she was an intern. Clinton can be defended on a lot of points, but not that one. initiated the relationship. you must be joking.

[Pepperbelly]

21. If she showed me thqt much whale's tail ...

I would figure she might have something in mind. Which could be who initiated what.

[alcibiades_mystery]

23. Ay yay yay

I can't believe people are still defending this nonsense.

You know, there's a great discussion in James Joyce's Ulysses about the sex scandal involving Charles Stewart Parnell. All the old men speak bitterly of Parnell's choices, though they loved him. His bad choices crippled the movement. Clinton's indiscretions cost us a great deal, not least being Al Gore's presidency. We need to face up to that at some point. When the most powerful man in the world "hooks up" with a 24 year old intern, discussions of who initiated it seem like feckless apologia.

[Mr Rabble]

25. Fair enough. How about that whole pedophilia aspect?

Is there also no difference between a 16 year old and a 24 year old?

FWIW, I agree with your view of the Clinton/ Lewinsky affair. Inappropriate regardless of who initiated it.

[alcibiades_mystery]

26. There is an obvious difference

Foley's conduct verges on the criminal, if it is not outright criminal.

Clinton's conduct was inappropriate, solely.

[Pepperbelly]

32. You are far too serious.

I just don't make value judgement about any sex involving consenting adults that doesn't involve me.

[alcibiades_mystery]

34. About the sex itself, I don't make judgments

About larger consequences, I do.

If my best friend is banging cocktail waitresses two at a time, I really could care less. If his wife with an infant son ends up killing herself over it, I think he was making a pretty bad choice. And I'm completely justified in doing so.

I'm not too serious. You're too wrapped up in the partisn squabble to realize that Clinton fucked us pretty good with his awful choices.

[noonwitch]

29. She admitted to snapping her thong at him!

Monica was hardly a victim, except perhaps of Linda Tripp.

[alcibiades_mystery]

35. Who said she was a victim?

Not me. You must be arguing with a non-existent foe. Or a ghost.

[Skittles]

2. FUCK OFF BRIT

you republican whores go on and on about the indiscretions of Democrats, then you turn around and use them as an excuse to dismiss the even WORSE indiscretions of your own party. FUCK OFF ALREADY.

[CTyankee]

24. We shouldn't waste our good spittle on Brit

I knew what he would say before he said it.

[marmar]

3. Human Shar Pei Brit Hume, doing what he does best...

What a useless gasbag Reich wing whore.

[yurbud]

4. for Democrats, immorality is impeachable. For GOP, pedophilia, an

actual crime, could be succumbing to "weakness of the human flesh"

[Gman]

5. Republican rule: When you're in a jam and no way out...

blame Clinton's penis.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

6. I was an avid fan Twit.... but you've finally lost me on this one...

well, I wasn't a fan, but I coulda been given the reich circumstances.

[rocktivity]

7. Your link is broken--it's going to the C&L home page

direct link

Oh, and shut your stupid face, Stimpy!!!

:headbang:
rocknation

[Human Torch]

14. He is. He really, really is. Rupert's butt puppet and Ren's best pal.

I wonder how many times per newscast they need to edit out scenes of him yakkin' up a furball?



:toast:

:evilgrin:

[Pachamama]

8. Clinton's relationship with Lewinsky, while maybe inappropriate, was NOT

ILLEGAL!!!!

The relationship between Foley and Pages, both the suggestive emails and possibly even physical contact, would not only constitute SEXUAL HARRASSMENT (which IS ILLEGAL) and also STATUTORY RAPE and LEWD BEHAVIOR WITH A MINOR (which are also ILLEGAL)!!!!

The only thing Clinton did illegal was THE LIE AND THE COVERUP!

And guess what Brit Hume and Faux news - that is also exactly what the GOP Leadership is guilty of: The LIES and THE COVERUP!!!! (and failure to remove this man from his position and protect any other children from being violated)

:grr:

[RC]

22. And even that was not illegal because

the question had nothing to do with the charges against W. J. Clinton in this civil case.

[fuzzyball]

33. Adultery is a crime in some states....not sure what laws apply in Wash DC

[agincourt]

36. Tell me which locations,

will prosecute you in court for adultery. I've heard this before from conservatives and it never checked out.

[fuzzyball]

38. I got that from playing some trivia game....try google

[gully]

9. The contortions these hypocrites will go through is amazing.

eom

[rodeodance]

10. what inapprriate behavior by Barney Frank is he talking about? (if)

[grasswire]

16. from WaPo

snip

Although Frank and Gobie differ in some details of their relationship, they agree on the story line. They met on April Fool's Day 1985. The representative answered a classified ad in the Washington Blade, the local gay weekly. "Exceptionally good-looking, personable, muscular athlete is available. Hot bottom plus large endowment equals a good time."

Then in his third term, the 45-year-old representative had not yet stated his homosexuality publicly. He paid Gobie $80 in cash for sex.

Gobie, then 28, was one of many young men "freelancing" in male prostitution. Gobie said he was born in Boston and grew up in a military family. He has felony convictions for possession of cocaine, oral sodomy and production of obscene items involving a juvenile.

Gobie and Frank say they became more friends than sexual partners. Gobie says he attended a bill-signing at the White House, and helped coach and played left field for Frank's team in the Congressional Softball League. "I was the star player," Gobie said.

Frank began to help Gobie financially, paying his attorney and court-ordered psychiatrist. The House member also said he hired Gobie as a personal aide, housekeeper and driver, but Gobie said that was a "cover story" concocted for probation officers.

In late 1985, Gobie says, he began to use Frank's apartment and two other locations for prostitution. Frank knew about the prostitution all along, but it was never explicitly discussed, Gobie says.

More at link:


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/longterm/tours/scandal/gobie2.htm

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[Human Torch]

17. Washington Post link...I have not fact checked it, so Caveat Emptor.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/longterm/tours/scandal/gobie2.htm

:patriot:

[grasswire]

11. can't tell the difference between consensual adult sex and pedophilia

That's the GOP for ya.

No moral compass.

[ClintonTyree]

12. What would Hume know about "human flesh"?

That subhuman piece of shit should keep his mouth shut when it comes to things he knows nothing about. :grr: I can't wait for the day that asshole falls. The lovely SPLATTING noise he'll make will be music to my ears.

[Tellurian]

37. Hume has a history of distorting facts..

From the Casualties sustained by US Troops in Iraq to;

The 2004 Election to:

The Privatization of Social Security..

Another Rovian Tool,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brit_Hume

[rodeodance]

13. mr Hume----connect the dots-A teen was involved here!--get it!!

HUME: It is very serious misbehavior on the part of Congressman Foley, whether it stems from arrogance or just weakness of the human flesh is another question. It’s probably worth noting that there’s a difference between the two parties on these issues. Inappropriate behavior towards subordinates didn’t cost Gerry Studds his Democratic seat in Massachussetts, nor Barney Frank his. Nor did inappropriate behavior toward a subordinate even cost Bill Clinton his standing within the Democratic Party, even though indirectly he was impeached for it. Mark Foley found out about this, was found out to have done this, and he’s out of office and in total disgrace in his party.

[izzie]

15. I guess

What I do with another adult is my business not the GOP but it is their business what my 14 year old does. Also my business. But one knew they would do this and I am willing to bet they were sure it would stay undercover just for this reason. They often work as one big club in Congress.

[AIJ Alom]

18. Dear FoxNews LOSERS !!! A Democratic House Majority always took care of

sex abuse cases quickly unlike this Republican Congress leaving Foley in for a year. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2857136&mesg_id=2857136
I posted these responses.
Note how the GOP supporters quicky and deftly attempt to shift the blame away from Foley and the failures of the Republican House Leadership and try to make this a bi-partisan scandal.
Facts about Barney Frank. Yes, he was involved in sex scandal with A 28 year old male prostitute in 1990, but when the then Democratic Leadership found out about it, they took immediate action. They tried to expel him, censure him, and finally succeeded in reprimanding him (they feared he would lose his seat). Instead, he won re-election with 66% of the vote and bigger margins since then. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barney_Frank
Compare this with the Foley case and the failures of the Republican majority to act on information given to them more than a year ago. Foley (Maf52) was asking a 16 year old male page to describe how he masterbates ! Worse still is the inaction by the House Leadership. They did nothing and allowed this man to continue to be the head of the NCMEC Caucus and of all things run for re-election. And now a year later when this bombshell comes out, they finally start harping about pursuing a criminal investigation.

Edited on Sun Oct-01-06 04:28 AM by AIJ Alom
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Crane
Crane (GOP)(involved with 17 year old female page) was defeated in the primary, Studds(DEM) (involved with 17 year old male page) went on to serve until 1996. But as was the case in 1989 with Frank (DEM), so was the case in 1983. The Democratic Majority also did the same with Buz Lukens (GOP).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_%22Buz%22_Lukens When the Democratic Controlled House found out, immediate action followed regardless if the individual was a Dem or GOP. Yet the party of the moral Right, the Republicans did nothing for a whole year !

It is also worth noting that inspite of being admonished by the Democratic House chamber, both politicians were re-elected by their constituents, retaining their districts. President Clinton even after being impeached, enjoyed high approval ratings.

Fact of the matter Republicans should stop pretending to be something they are not and stop trying to represent constituents whose values they do not share.

[NOLADEM]

19. I can't believe it took this long for Clinton to be dragged into this

I had eight seconds in the office pool. I'm out five bucks!

[1932]

27. Hume wanted to send Bill to jail over Monica. He was impeached because of

that.

I don't understand why he's bringing this up as a defense.

Is he saying that he thinks Republicans in congress are guilty of aiding and abetting high crimes and misdemeanors?

[Supersedeas]

28. Brit and Fox & Friends spinning that Talking Point: but but but Dems have

done it too...no matter the Apples and Oranges.

[Radical Activist]

30. If its so similar, why didn't they move to impeach Foley right away?

Instead of covering it up.

[M_Demo_M]

31. OK... If you take Hume's position than Congress needs to

Launch a multi-year, multi-million dollar investigation and focus all political dialog around the scandal.

Hume's argument doesn't exactly help the GOP.