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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 07:14 PM
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MO-McCaskill in hot water over alleged illegal drug use.
Edited on Mon Aug-21-06 07:14 PM by nickshepDEM
Sorry, I usually link only from credibile sources; however, I cannot find the direct link to the You Tube interviews. Therefore, I have to route the links through redstate.com.

Anyway...

Link to TV interviews. (You Tube)

Apparently she admits to experimenting in the 60's, but the investigative reporter seems to think it goes further than that... a federal inquiry into meth labs.

Anyway you look at it, this is bad news for her campaign. Even if the federal inquiry into the meth labs turns out to be false she still admits to using illegal drugs in the 60s and that aint gonna help in rural MO. Shes going to be branded as a hippie now (all you ex-hippies, Im not saying theres anything wrong with that!).

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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 07:19 PM
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1. GWB was a druggie until he was nearly 40 years old. n/t
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 07:19 PM
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2. I don't think so. Most people in this country tried some drugs and the
2000 and 2004 campaigns really put that issue to bed. You'll notice that no one really made it a big deal as expected, especially since Bush is the one with the worst history.

Wasn't it Kucinich who NEVER even tried pot who got labeled the hippie candidate?

I wouldn't sweat it - even us "rural" folks were surrounded by pot and acid in the 60s and 70s.
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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 07:20 PM
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3. Just out of curiosity... Whats acid like?
Edited on Mon Aug-21-06 07:21 PM by nickshepDEM
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 07:25 PM
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7. Heh - the only way I experienced acid was being dosed at a SanFran party
at age 26. My Catholic upbringing made me see the devil trying to take me to hell - - not fun.

Had I not been raised so strictly I might have had a good time. ;)
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flakey_foont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 07:27 PM
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8. Different things to different people
to some it is the Garden of Earthly Delights...to others it is Dante's Inferno....
thinking patterns grossly distorted and you may encounter aspects and areas of your psyche that you are not prepared to deal with...............some have deeply mystical experiences, some get scared by the seeming lack of control.....; your senses are altered, not necessarily enhanced, but how your brain interprets sensory input can be quite bizarre...;
I think if you go with an open mind, and be willing to let things happen and just enjoy the ride, it can be a very entertaining experience - for the first few hours at least, after that, it gets boring, because it stays with you for several hours
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 07:32 PM
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10. Oh, it's nothing really. Just the answer to everything.
Or so you think at the time. ;)
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 08:25 AM
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36. There's really no such thing as "acid", or LSD anymore.
But back in the early '70's, you could still obtain it, and it was a lot of fun, if you were in the right frame of mind, to begin with.
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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 05:24 PM
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38. What happend to it?
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 11:18 PM
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39. False
LSD is defeintely still availible in some niche markets.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 08:54 AM
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37. I think of myself as a hippie and I never did drugs
Edited on Tue Aug-22-06 08:58 AM by Totally Committed
in the 60's and 70's... Being a hippie is a mindset... a belief system, not a drug history. And, btw, there's plenty of evidence of politicians kids sowing some pretty wild oats on YouTube these days, too. Being young and being foolish sometimes goes hand-in-hand. That's why there's "maturity"... you know?

TC
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 07:21 PM
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4. Funny. Well, not really funny. In fact, not funny at all.
They didn't have anything about it on the news and I'm absolutely sure that if there was so much as the tiniest whisper about it or anything to it, the local media would have been shouting it from the nearest church steeple.

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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 07:22 PM
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5. The interview is from a local TV station... KOTV 5
Edited on Mon Aug-21-06 07:23 PM by nickshepDEM
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 07:30 PM
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9. And that is where? Oklahoma?
Missouri?
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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 07:34 PM
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13. lol, no idea. Im in MD....
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 07:42 PM
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21. Then I suggest you look for the originating source of the rumor
in your vicinity because your rumor appears to be nothing more that. A rumor. As the old saying goes, With friends like this who needs enemies.
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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 07:43 PM
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23. Hey, Im just raising it as a potential problem/issue.
Regardless of whether it is rumor or not. The fact is, it will bring negative press to her campaign and I just wanted to inform everyone.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 07:09 AM
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34. That is probably KCTV5 - Kansas City
That is CBS here in KC.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 07:24 PM
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6. Meth Labs?
Yeah, that sounds plausible.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 07:33 PM
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11. Last minute Rovian smear campaign tactics...
Mr. Talent is just probaby pissed that the Fraternal Order of Police endorsed McCaskill.



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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 07:33 PM
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12. So they're basically saying she's a crack dealer?
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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 07:35 PM
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14. Yeah, pretty much.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 07:40 PM
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18. Look at this regarding METH LABS -- Sounds like sour grapes to me!
...McCaskill was one of the first prosecutors nationwide to crack down on meth, leading General Barry McCaffrey, the head of the Office of National Drug Control Policy to state that her approach was "a model for the rest of the nation."

...While McCaskill supports the goals of the recently passed Combat Meth Act, she believes that it cannot undo the damage caused by Talent-backed cuts that are now crippling rural meth law enforcement. Talent has a long record of voting against critical funding for the war on meth

http://www.scanews.com/2006/08/s833/83313 /

Coincidence the smear has something to do with "Meth Labs"...?

I don't think so.



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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 07:37 PM
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15. She needs to call a press conference and say.....
Me and George Bush, now President of the United States for the past 6 years, both used illegal drugs in the 60s. The Difference is I stopped in the 60s, while President Bush kept going with it well into the 80s. Also, unlike President Bush, I am NOT an acoholic.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 07:38 PM
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16. Doing drugs 30 years ago will be a non-story
I'm sorry is that story supposed to be considered damming? It says she was investigated almost 10 years ago. Was she indicted? Charged? No, she wasn't.

Anything else these mousy little reporters with nothing better to do have comes from a coked up meth whore in prison.

Please.
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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 07:40 PM
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19. lol, at your last sentence.
I lol'd
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 09:34 PM
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31. And why was the FBI investigating for 4 years in the 1990's?
They obviously came up with nothing. Can you say fishing expedition?
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 07:39 PM
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17. Typical smear
They're basically trying to tie her to this woman just because they worked for the same department. Un fucking believable. They apparently investigated McCaskill at the time and she came up totally clean (one would imagine, since they didn't find anything.)

Better that this comes up now than in two months, I suppose.
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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 07:41 PM
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20. True, but its still negative press. Theres a poll due out tomorrow too.
Edited on Mon Aug-21-06 07:41 PM by nickshepDEM
Apparently it will show Talent up by 2.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 07:46 PM
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24. This is intriguing
over at Freepland, a number of them think this is a concocted witchhunt non-story that may end up helping her:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1687587/posts
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 07:55 PM
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26. McCaskill = Combat Meth Act .... Talent = Cut funds on Meth enforcement
Taking care of the problem of Meth Labs in her state is one of the things people admire most about her.

They are accussing her of participating in something she's been busting her ass to fight so hard against?

Talent has to be livid that she's doing so well, and that the Fraternal Order of Police are backing McCaskill because of her work on the "passed Combat Meth Act"..




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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 09:35 PM
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32. How do you know?
You seem rather anxious to have this smear hurt her campaign.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 07:42 PM
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22. It will BACKFIRE when it comes to this particular topic..!!
"McCaskill was one of the first prosecutors nationwide to crack down on meth, leading General Barry McCaffrey, the head of the Office of National Drug Control Policy to state that her approach was "a model for the rest of the nation."

..."While McCaskill supports the goals of the recently passed Combat Meth Act, she believes that it cannot undo the damage caused by Talent-backed cuts that are now crippling rural meth law enforcement. Talent has a long record of voting against critical funding for the war on meth"

http://www.scanews.com/2006/08/s833/83313 /
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 07:50 PM
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25. Something tells me this is a non story
And may end up angering a number of voters at the attempted smear.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 07:56 PM
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27. Me too Ruggy... Me too!
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 09:24 PM
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28. It's a smear. It's not true and I wish that this thread
Edited on Mon Aug-21-06 09:26 PM by Scout1071
were deleted. There is no evidence that suggests that she is a drug dealer, in fact there is evidence to the contrary. The whole thing is preposterous.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 09:31 PM
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29. GOP just ginning up another faux scandal
What a crock. I'm surprised you would post something like this.
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 09:33 PM
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30. Looks like a hack local reporter trying to pretend he found something
I watched both videos and his emphasis was always sinister, even when the words and paperwork were tame to nothing.

Disgraceful that he showed pictures of a homemade meth lab, and then interviewed McCaskill later in the same segment, almost implying a tie-in to McCaskill.

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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 08:22 AM
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35. Her husband got busted on a Kansas City riverboat casino, for
smoking a joint while cruising up and down the Missouri River, back in the late '90's. She divorced him.
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