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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 03:06 PM
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just got off the phone with salazar's reg.office here in the springs--ken
"won't let politics sway him, he is loyal to his friends, and does what he thinks is right, regardless of the political consequences."

The office staff has been taking calls all day, but admit that ken probably isn't going to change his mind.

wonder what it is going to take.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 03:10 PM
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1. Why worry about that now....?
The best way to get them to see they are wrong is to get Lamont elected...! Perhaps we should make sure that is in the bag first!
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 03:41 PM
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2. A Dem who does what he thinks is right regardless of political consequence
Edited on Thu Aug-10-06 03:51 PM by dolstein
Am I the only one who notices the irony? For years, the left-wing blogosphere has been railing against spineless Democrats who are so intimidated by polls and beltway political consultants that the typical voter no longer knows what they stand for.

Now here's Joe Lieberman, whose willing to say exactly what he stands for, political consequences be damned. And the left-wing Blogosphere rips him a new one and instead embraces a trust fund baby who made his name in business by downsizing a non-union cable company. Apparently, what the left-wing blogosphere really wants is more politicians who'll read from their left-wing script.

Well, it's good to see that Lieberman isn't the only Democrat with a little spine. Good job Salazar.
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 03:44 PM
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4. except in this case the entire primary system is at risk
how would you feel if every leftist (and rightist) loser of a primary just ran as an independent and was backed by sitting US senators? We would lose every election.

In order for primaries to mean something, people have to respect them.

Perhaps I should ask your opinion on Dems who voted for Ralph Nader?
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 03:47 PM
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5. I would be more inclined to agree with you if I hadn't spent a good part
of the last 18 months chiding ken for voting like a damned repuke on countless issues.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 03:48 PM
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6. We're against spineless Democrats
Who don't stand up for Democratic ideals. There are already plenty of folks standing up for the fascist, imperialistic ideals of the corrupt Bush administration. We just don't need them on the Democratic side of the Senate.

Seems so bone simple anyone could get it, but I've overestimated people's intelligence before.
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 03:53 PM
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7. Lieberman's standing up for the ideals of Truman and JFK
Those who believe that Democratic Party was founded by George McGovern will never understand.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 03:59 PM
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8. What ideals are those?
Torture is a viable instrument of foreign policy? The Geneva Conventions don't apply to the United States? The executive is entitled to unlimited power and authority if he can gin up a casus belli?

Ridiculous.
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Howardx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 04:01 PM
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9. what crap
did you just hear that on fox?
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 06:12 PM
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13. No, he's ass-kissing the repukes and SCOLDING OTHER DEMS
who disagree with him, instead of the WAR CRIMINAL REPUKES.

He is no longer a dem. He is some kind of "independent" or whatever his party is now called.

HE'S RUNNING AGAINST THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE - you know, the ones you guys were all set to whine that WE weren't going to support when YOU thought WE would lose!

He is no longer a "Democrat".

Suck it up - BIG TIME!

You just don't get it, do you!
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 06:46 PM
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19. I dont remember Truman or JFK siding with the corrupt, Far Right. n/t
n/t
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 04:57 PM
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10. Ah, a Lieberman lover
BEGONE!!!
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 06:31 PM
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16. Still smooching GOP Joe after all these years...
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 06:44 PM
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18. No- we want to see some spine against BUSH- not spine against us.
Edited on Thu Aug-10-06 06:44 PM by Dr Fate
You dont get it- when we say we want DEMS with Spine, we mean spine against the Far-right, not spine against us.

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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 10:52 PM
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23. P.S. dolstein -- Read this and weep:
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 03:42 PM
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3. Somehow I don't think he would feel this way if he were up for re-election
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 06:30 PM
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15. sure he would
this will help him in Colorado, not hurt him.

there's no one on the left who can win a primary here, much less a general election

Salazar will win for the same reason that Nighthorse Campbell won; as both a Democrat and a Republican. He'll grab enough votes from the middle to put him over the top - no matter what the party...
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:13 PM
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11. Good to know that he holds the voters in CT in contempt. Wonder if
he holds all voters in contempt, even those in his district.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 07:29 PM
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21. he's a Senator
he represents the entire state
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 11:40 PM
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24. Sorry, I guess I should have asked if he is allowed to hold the
electorate in his state in comtempt.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 06:03 PM
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12. Those of us who supported Mike Miles predicted all this l-o-n-g
ago.

Now, here it is, staring us in the face.

So, I still wonder, will Salazar pull a Nighthorse???

Maybe his head has been buried too long in the sand of the Great Dunes?

"Off with his head"!
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 06:30 PM
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14. He'll change his mind when the pressure increases. Joe keeps flapping
his gums like he has been and he will have no friends left in the Democratic Party.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 06:40 PM
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17. I suggest his "friends" are from the other side...
In many ways.

:evilgrin:
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 06:49 PM
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20. Thanks for trying anyway.
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