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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 07:48 AM
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Quinnipiac poll: Lamont Leads Lieberman 54 - 41
Momentum for Ned Lamont, the anti-war Connecticut U.S. Senate candidate, increases as he rolls to a 54 - 41 percent lead over incumbent Sen. Joseph Lieberman among likely Democratic primary voters, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today.

This compares to a 51 - 47 percent Lamont lead among likely Democratic primary voters in a July 20 poll by the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University.
...
"Sen. Lieberman's campaign bus seems to be stuck in reverse. Despite visits from former President Bill Clinton and other big name Democrats, Lieberman has not been able to stem the tide to Lamont," said Quinnipiac University Poll Director Douglas Schwartz, Ph.D.

"The incumbent has just five days to turn this race around, but never count out a veteran with his experience."

"Three months ago, Lamont was virtually unheard of, except perhaps on the blogs. As Democrats get to know Lamont better, they like what they see. Lamont has established himself as a credible alternative to Lieberman," Dr. Schwartz added.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x11362.xml?ReleaseID=943
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 07:53 AM
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1. Yet another poll showing Joe's steady decline
He will lose this primary, and he will lose as an independent.
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connecticut yankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 12:33 PM
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26. Just think
the whole country is watching quiet, little Connecticut.

No one ever paid any attention to us before.


:applause: :applause: :applause:
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 05:55 PM
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46. Great State
We spent many a hockey weekend there when my daughter played out of Hamden. Given 'em hell, Ted!

:yourock:
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thom1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 10:50 AM
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56. Umm... it's Ned
:)
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 04:08 PM
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59. Fat fingers
:blush:
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 08:02 AM
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2. Get going, Joe. I really think you can change those numbers
to being down 64-31 by Tuesday.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 08:04 AM
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4. I agree...
Lieberman is going to wipe the floor with Lamont! Lamont's campaign is just like Dean's! All he needs is a scream! He's going down fast! :rofl:
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MarkDevin Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 02:10 PM
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31. Lieberman 2006 = Bush (Sr.) 1992
I'll never forget this line from Poppy's convention speech: "If you want change, vote for George Bush!" :rofl:
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Javamancer Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 08:03 AM
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3. the Post Colbert Bump
or PCB, as the kids call it, is real! I bet that empty chair next to the bowl of CoCo Puffs is starting to look rather enticing to Lieberman.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:42 AM
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7. I thought he looked very poised and
articulate. And he laughed at the right times and just enough.
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MarkDevin Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 02:12 PM
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32. Why do you suppose Lieberman's camp won't return calls...
...from Colbert and Franken? Both have invited him onto their respective shows, but Lieberman's handlers haven't so much as called them back to refuse.

Geez, Joe. Are you that afraid of your record? Well, I would be too.
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thom1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 10:52 AM
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57. The young turks too.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 02:19 PM
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35. Wow, I didn't even think of that, Colbert better take credit for the bump
Or, the PCB. I expect he will, as he took credit for getting Stephen Harper elected in Canada.
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 08:51 AM
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5. Joe, there's a fork with your name on it.
Would you like to stick it in, or should we?
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:41 AM
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6. I guess the desperate mud-slinging has been a miserable failure
It's a shame such a good public servant and good Dem is going out with a wimper.
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MarkDevin Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 02:13 PM
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33. It's his own damn fault.
Nobody told Lieberman to publicly scold Clinton, or to stick his nose up Bush's ass. The good senator is facing the consequences of his actions, and it's about goddamn time!

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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:49 AM
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8. real grass roots momentum beats joementum any day
I would have never believed anyone could have a fighting chance to topple holy joe, but I'm pulling for the underdog this time. Go Ned Go!

A lot can happen in a week. A lot can happen when a moderate is running as an independent too. This should be very interesting.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:54 AM
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9. Too bad there is no three way poll...
Showing how the race would go with Lieberman as an independent.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:58 AM
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11. Why would they do a 3 way poll
if Independents can't vote in the primary?
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 10:45 AM
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19. General election..
Lamont-Lieberman Schlesinger

That is apparently what is goingto play out...a poll on this was conducted a couple weeks ago showing them tied...I was hoping Q would have included that here
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 10:48 AM
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21. They were only polling Democrats
with respect to the Tuesday primary. Once the primary is over, if Lamont wins, then you can expect 3 way polls.
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tives12 Donating Member (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 05:01 PM
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43. Nah, they already did one that I remember.
They set it up presuming that Lamont won the primary and Lieberman ran as an independent. Lieberman was ahead in that poll by quite a few points. The problem is that too many Republicans like Joe and would vote for him, especially with the whole gambling thing with Schlesinger.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 05:20 PM
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44. That was a long time ago.
The most recent poll had Lieberman and Lamont tied at 40% if Joe ran as an independent. That was the lowest showing Lieberman had yet in such a contest.

The reality is, Lieberman's support is collapsing inside AND OUTSIDE the party.

If you want a Democrat as Connecticut's senator, Ned Lamont is now the ONLY choice.
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MarkDevin Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 02:14 PM
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34. Schlessinger was polling at 13% before his gambling addiction became...
...public knowledge.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 04:17 PM
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40. Might as well face facts, SaveElmer...
Joe is doomed in the primary, and will likely lose by such a large margin that an independent campaign on his part couldn't possibly be credible.

Your boy is going to lose. Connecticut(and the nation)are saying no to the war.

Hillary has to join the antiwar side if she wants to win in '08. There is no such thing as an electable liberal hawk anymore.

Join us on the right side of history. You're always welcome.
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thom1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 10:58 AM
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58. The q poll a couple of weeks ago...
showed Lieberman in the lead with 51%, Lamont with 27% and Schlesinger with 9%. I have been working with the Lamont Campaign and we aren't terribly worried. We have been focusing our efforts on the primary, not the general. We expect those numbers to change after the primary.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 06:34 AM
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54. So are you going to support his independent run?
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NJ Democrats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:57 AM
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10. Joe, you better get on the Colbert Report!
Your running out of time to get the all-important PCB!!!
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 10:05 AM
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12. joe on the colbert report! that would be AWEsome!
:rofl:
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 10:34 AM
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17. I would love for him to go on too.
Because he doesn't have a very good sense of humor these days and Colbert will piss him off and he will probably get nasty with him. Besides, after Lamont's polished appearance, he can't compete. :)
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 10:08 AM
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13. Absolutely !
Definitely a PCB for Lamont ! Which, by the way, I was very impressed with :hi:
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 08:14 PM
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48. PCBs? Aren't those a human carcinogen? No wonder Lieberman is avoiding it!
:rofl:
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ktowntennesseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 10:13 AM
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14. Any lower and he'll end up tied for third again!
Joementum my ass! Go Ned!

:popcorn:
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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 01:38 PM
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28. Isn't "Joementum" the term used to describe the hydrodynamics
of a turd as it swirls and scrapes the bottom of the bowl?

I think I saw it in the same dictionary as "santorum"
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ktowntennesseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 01:58 PM
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29. LOL!
If not, it ought to be!

:spray: :rofl: :applause:
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 04:22 PM
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41. Yeah, and "a five way tie for third" at that!
nt.
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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 10:32 AM
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15. Remember Daou's triangle?
Edited on Thu Aug-03-06 10:35 AM by Strawman
http://daoureport.salon.com/synopsis.aspx?synopsisId=14...

Lamont has 2/3 of it right now. The grassroots/netroots is overwhelmingly for him, and after the NYT endorsement, and Colbert, the media is at least not against him and has presented him as credible Senatorial material. The political establishment is still in Lieberman's corner, but after he loses the primary he won't have a leg of the triangle to stand on anymore.

Lieberman is betting that the general election will be a whole new ballgame. He can recapture establishment support by turning to Republicans, he can captalize on what he believes will be stronger grassroots/support by reaching out to Republicans and Independents who lean Republican, and the conservative, establishment bent of the media outlets consumed by the broader general election voters may give him back an advantage there.

It will be interesting to see what happens with regard to the triangle in the next round. But this round is gonna go to Lamont and that might be enough of a tipping point for him. Lieberman is going to have a loser's stigma on him after this and Lamont is going to have the momentum. And that's good news for Lamont because the media loves to frame elections in terms of winners and losers with their "horserace" coverage. I just think that there's going to be some general sense among the less attentive voters that when someone gets beat in a primary like Lieberman will that person's time is up and it's time for a change.
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Bretttido Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 10:33 AM
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16. Wohoo for Ned!
This is very good news indeed!
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 10:38 AM
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18. Joe's gonna pull it out yet! He just got the endorsement that will save
His campaign!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

:rofl:

Hell, even the College Republicans are fighting for him.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 10:48 AM
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20. Hot Damn!
Joe, you're dropping like an anchor! * Blub blub blub *
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cgrindley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 11:38 AM
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22. Good going Ned!
USA out of Iraq.
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 12:00 PM
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23. Lieberman needs to commit to dropping out after next Tuesday
Not even Diebold can save him with that margin. He really needs to start looking for something to do with his life come January of 2007. Running as an Independent is not only going to further damage his reputation but runs the risk of dragging down other democrats with positions similar to his (eg. Clinton).
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 12:28 PM
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25. I think his funders will go away. do their best with Lamont...
and sadly, with Lamont's backing of Israeli aggression, they won't have to try too hard.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 12:26 PM
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24. By voting for Lamont, the people of Conn. will be refuting the Bush agenda
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 02:40 PM
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36. All the RW eyes are on this primary.
It's a referendum on anti-Bush feelings.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 12:44 PM
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27. kcik
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MarkDevin Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 02:07 PM
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30. "As Democrats get to know Lamont better, they like what they see."
BINGO!!!

Lamont has tirelessly traveled the state, appearing at all sorts of gatherings and introducing himself to the people of CT. And the more Lamont does that, the higher his poll numbers climb.

So perhaps you out-of-state know-it-alls will finally STFU and let us Nutmeggers choose our own damn candidate next Tuesday?

Right. And perhaps I'll flap my arms and fly to the moon.



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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 03:22 PM
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37. GREAT news! Way to go Democrats!
Kick that repuke wanna-be bush ass kisser out on the street where he belongs!
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shawmut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 03:34 PM
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38. Score one for Ned Lamont
:)
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 04:07 PM
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39. Let's pray for at least a 15 point spread on Tuesday. Lieberman
may give up. In 2007 he can spend his time traveling the country defending bush when he is under impeachment investigation next year.
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BEZERKO Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 04:28 PM
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42. Go Lamont Go
:yourock:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 05:34 PM
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45. The whole world is watching. Lieberman is much of what's wrong with
our system, a clever snake oil salesman who manipulates those who don't take the time to dig deep enough to recognize obvious hypocrisy. Lieberman and many like him in the center and right engage in the persuasion by personality; politics by publicity; election through trust based on a foundation of sand.

Lieberman never fails to remind us that he is a God fearing man who places his faith at the center of his life. He says it over and over and the poodle press repeats it as though it were truth. In addition, Lieberman has a good pitch and a facade of friendliness.

The truth is different. How central is morality when:

-- You receive a major honor by your party presidential nominee and you run a vapid campaign culminating in a complete withdrawal from the field when the election is stolen by thugs in Florida; what does this say about the morality of fighting evil and loyalty to your party?

-- You criticize your President for a lack of morality regarding sex and then three years later vote for a war authorization that produces profound suffering and death, anticipated by many, but glossed over by you, the paragon of morality; what does this say about what "morals" are to you and the relative importance of human life and why have you not criticized this president for his immorality?

-- You continue to support that war despite the overwhelming evidence that it is a humanitarian disaster (which belies any excuse you have for voting for it in the first place); what does this say about your tolerance for suffering and death for no apparent purposes?

Joe Lieberman is a "good" man, a "moral" man. That's the facade we've been sold by Lieberman and the complicit press. It is a fraudulent message. The great Democrats in Connecticut realize this and are going to send Lieberman packing.

That's the message the whole world will receive. The United States is awakening, the citizens of this largely prosperous state have awakened, no thanks to the press. They are showing that the lies told and repeated are losing their effectiveness. The people have new sources of information, they can read the hand writing on the wall, they have had enough.

This has to happen and Lamont needs to win the general. This is the greatest political story in the United States right now and it is a harbinger. No more lies, no more hypocrites parading in front of us with false promises, no more compliant citizenry. It's over.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 08:10 PM
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47. Wonderful post, autorank. Lieberman is indeed a fraud.
And his adoration of Bush has torpedoed him. LaMont has been bashing Lieberman's support of Bush in advertising and the voters are responding. And LaMont is in fact a very good, smart and articulate candidate.

Tusday's primary will represent a complete repudiation of Bush and rethugs will be scared shitless of any linkage to Bush. Tuesday could very well represent the effective end of the Bush pResidency.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 03:44 AM
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52. Thanks speedo. Nice one "adoration of Bush"...
...sounds kind of, well, illegal ;)
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ejbr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 08:19 PM
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49. What self-respecting Democrat
would vote for the candidate endorsed by Sean Hannity, Michele Malkin and Ann Coulter? Better yet, what type of Democrat would not wonder WHY these people care whether Lieberman wins or not?

:dunce:
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:55 PM
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50. I'm praying for a double digit loss for Joementum.
I also hope that he will decide to go on the Colbert Report in a desperate, last ditch effort to appear "hip". :rofl:

I wouldn't be taking so much pleasure in this if the guy was maintaining a scrap of dignity. He seems to be absolutely determined to go down with as much humiliation as possible.
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nasher Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 08:28 AM
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55. A double digit loss would sure impede his independent run
I am not sure if Lamont will get that though.
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Autonomy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 01:55 AM
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51. ABC News Poll: Conn. Voters Still Back Lieberman
HARTFORD, Conn. Jan 11, 2006 (AP) Democratic Sen. Joe Lieberman's support of the war in Iraq apparently has cost him some support, but not enough to threaten his re-election in November, according to a poll released Wednesday.

Sixty-two percent of Connecticut voters approve of the way he is handling his job, while 24 percent do not and the rest didn't know, according to the telephone survey.

Seventy-five percent of Republicans, 61 percent of unaffiliated voters and 59 percent of Democrats said Lieberman deserves to be re-elected.

"While Sen. Lieberman has lost support among some Democrats, probably because of his strong support for the war in Iraq, he helps make up for it with support from Republicans," said Quinnipiac pollster Douglas Schwartz.

"Any senator running for re-election this year would be extremely happy to have Lieberman's poll numbers," he said.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=1495924&CMP...

Ummmm.... HAHAHAHAHAHA!! :rofl:
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MarkDevin Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 03:48 AM
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53. "75% of Republicans...said Lieberman deserves to be re-elected."
Way to go, Joey-boy! :spray:
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 06:20 PM
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60. The poll is ancient history and no longer relevant. 7 months old.
Joey's done. :bounce:
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