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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 05:36 PM
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Poll question: Will the Green Zone & Embassy survive?
it looks like the Iraqis are getting inexorably closer to breaching Smirk's Photo-op backdrop, the Green Zone. IMO, the only reason * invaded Iraq was to establish the Embassy. Can we maintain the embassy?
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 05:37 PM
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1. At some point in the future our troops are likely to have to make
a fighting withdrawal from Iraq if they continue to be led by this bunch of assholes.
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 05:38 PM
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2. museum
The Embassy, were it to fall might make a nice future holacaust museum.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 05:41 PM
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4. Or a palace for the Iraqi's next elected leader to live in
:cry:
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 05:41 PM
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3. It's sitting on 104 acres of land; obscene and difficult to secure
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 05:43 PM
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5. And a constant reminder to the Iraqis of an unwanted presence
the perfect target symbolically and actually.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 06:00 PM
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6. it's not the embassy, it's the oil rights. Every last soldier we have
there could be killed and Bush would send in more to hold onto the oil contracts that Bush gave his cronies.

They aren't doing charity work over there. Iraq has the world's econd largest oil reserves which were worth tens of trillions of dollars BEFORE the war. Now the value has doubled.

Bush is like a monkey with his fist stuck clenching a nut in a coke bottle. If he let go of the nut, he could get out. But the nut is more important that anything else.

A good brief summary of neoliberalism:
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=376

How "economic hit men" set it up and enforce it:
http://www.johnperkins.org/Preface.htm


The Bush Agenda: Invading the World, One Economy at a Time author's website:

http://www.bushagenda.net/index.php

Greg Palast's timeline of Iraq oil meeings (with video interviews with the players):

http://www.gregpalast.com/iraqmeetingstimeline.html

Detailed report on restructuring of Iraq's oil industry to benefit our oil companies:

http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/oil/2005/crudedesigns.htm

Colin Powell's chief of staff on oil motive for Iraq War:

http://professorsmartass.blogspot.com/2005/11/powell-aide-says-war-about-oil-so-we.html

Broader background on oil, war, and foreign policy:
http://www.mymethow.com/~joereid/oil_coup.html

Naomi Klein on privatization and its effects in Iraq:
http://www.harpers.org/BaghdadYearZero.html


Economic war crimes in Geneva and Hague Conventions:

The Hague Convention of 1907 (IV) see articles 47, 53, 55
http://www.icrc.org/ihl.nsf/FULL/195?OpenDocument

The Geneva Convention of 1949 (IV) we've broken almost every section of article 147, and Bush has personally broken article 148.
http://www.icrc.org/ihl.nsf/FULL/380?OpenDocument

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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 06:50 PM
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7. EXACTLY CORRECT. The oil in the ground is money in the bank.....
Edited on Tue Aug-01-06 06:51 PM by A HERETIC I AM
and if it isn't gotten out now by AMERICAN firms and brought to market and profited on by American firms then it wont be brought out by ANYONE.

They really didnt care how soon as this is a generational move, that is to say the core group of men that wanted this war wanted it for NO OTHER REASON than to control who gets to bring that oil to market. If we are somehow forced out of Iraq, the pipelines and the shipping facilities will be leveled and when rebuilt, leveled again until it is American firms once again in control.

I am as sure this will be the case as i am sure my fingers are striking these keys.
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