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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 10:14 PM
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A message to the DLC: our issues are not pet issues
Edited on Thu Jul-13-06 10:20 PM by MN Against Bush
Let us be clear from the beginning, we all want a big tent. Every last one of us wants to win elections. Every one of us aside from the freepers that may be lurking wants to get the Republicans out of office.

We must know however that while we want as many people as possible under that tent we need to have a clear set of values that we can stand for. And when people want to speak out against those key values we need to speak up and make it clear that we disagree even if they are standing underneath our tent.

Think about it this way, if everyone in the Bush Administration decided to become Democrats tomorrow would you allow them into the party? You would control the White House, but I am sure that most of you would agree that obtaining the White House that way would not be a good strategy.

We need to let the majority voice of the people in our tent to have precedence over the vocal minority in the DLC. I am not trying to be divisive here, but I find it offensive that when we speak out against the DLC we are often accused of not wanting a big tent and focusing on a few "pet issues".

Iraq is not a pet issue. It has cost us thousands of American lives and tens of thousands of Iraqi lives. It has left who knows how many more seriously injured in ways we do not want to imagine. I am with the majority when I say this was wrong and we need to get out.

According to Gallup "roughly 2 in 3 Americans urge a U.S. withdrawal from Iraq, with 31% wanting this to start immediately." and "only 2% want to send more troops." (link: http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002801550) The Democratic Party needs to make the message clear that they oppose the war, and people like Joe Lieberman and other Democrats who support the war are at odds with the majority of the party.

Universal Health Care is not a pet issue. There are tens of millions of uninsured Americans, and many many more millions of people who are struggling to pay their health insurance premiums even though they are under insured. People are getting sick and dying here, this is an extremely important issue. We don't want the insurance industry, HMOs, and pharmaceutical giants controlling our health. According to a ABC News poll "Americans by a 2-1 margin, 62-32 percent, prefer a universal health insurance program over the current employer-based system." (Link: http://abcnews.go.com/sections/living/US/healthcare031020_poll.html)

We need to stand up for the interests of the majority, even if the pharmaceutical industry funded DLC does not like it.

Sure the people in the DLC have the right to participate in the process, but we need to take a clear stand sometimes and sometimes that stand is going to have to go against them. One of the biggest criticisms of Democrats is that we do not take strong stands, and if we try to please everyone that criticism will still drag the party down.

This is not divisiveness it is democracy, it is standing up for the values that are important to the people. We want to end this long bloody war in Iraq, we want single payer Universal Health Care, and we want an end to corporate money corrupting the political system.

Yes we want a big tent, and in order to do that we need to make sure that we are standing up for the majority. We are not asking for ideological purity, we are asking for clear strong stands. We are perfectly willing to allow dissent, in fact we encourage dissent. Just don't expect that we are going to look the other way when someone who says they represent us tries to take right-wing positions.

(Edited for grammatical errors)
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 10:16 PM
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1. BRAVO!!
Now how about some popcorn? :popcorn: Butter?
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 11:11 PM
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5. Shutting down the Pentagon?
It's original, at least. And I don't think your blanket statement about the difference between Democrats and Republicans holds water in all cases. Certainly in Wisconsin, where I live, we have an excellent Senator in Russ Feingold whom I was proud to vote for in '04. I was glad to vote for Howard Dean in the primary. There are plenty of others I'd be happy to vote for, given the opportunity--including Al Gore. I can't think of a single Republican I'd vote for, for any office. Not one.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 11:27 PM
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7. Maybe you'll never earn my attention.
But I'll give you another chance.

In November.

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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 11:29 PM
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8. Ha!
Good one.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 11:48 PM
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9. The Pentagon wasn't set up to fight the Cold War
It was a place to put all the war planning facilities for what was the DEPARTMENT OF WAR under more or less one roof. http://www.infoplease.com/spot/pentagon1.html

The world's largest office building, the Pentagon is synonymous with the Department of Defense and a symbol of American military might.

Exactly 60 years before the September 2001 attacks, on September 11, 1941, ground was broken in Arlington Country, Virginia, for a huge new building to house the War Department, forerunner of today's Department of Defense. The department was then operating from 17 separate buildings in Washington.

Pearl Harbor Alters Plans
At certain periods 13,000 people worked on the project. Originally, plans called for three floors, but as the military prepared for war after the attack on Pearl Harbor, two more floors were added. To conserve steel, concrete ramps were used in place of elevators and the outside walls were made of reinforced concrete.

The Pentagon was built in "stripped classical" style, a variation of Greek and Roman classicism popular in the middle of the 20th century and often used for government buildings.

On January 15, 1943, just 16 months after construction began, the Pentagon was completed. In April, occupants began moving in. Including outside facilities, the project cost about $83,000,000....Since five roads surrounded the site, builders chose a five-sided building, which is how the Pentagon got its name
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 10:50 PM
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3. Great!
Let's keep telling them too. We can't afford another lost election, they have to listen to the people.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 11:06 PM
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4. In close elections, Republicans rally their "base"--
Edited on Thu Jul-13-06 11:12 PM by smoogatz
otherwise known as millenialists, wingnuts and racists. The DLC, on the other hand, ridicules and runs from the Democratic base--the liberals and progressives who were the backbone of the party before the party had its spinectomy back in '00. The results are self-evident.
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jerry611 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 11:27 PM
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6. Ignore....
Edited on Thu Jul-13-06 11:30 PM by jerry611
Posted under wrong thread.....,
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 01:05 AM
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10. Public financing of campaigns is ALSO not a "pet issue" either!
No matter how much the DLC might want to think otherwise, it is THE fundamental issue that disempowers us everyplace else with the corruption we have in place without it being put into law.

It is good for PEOPLE of all political stripes, not just liberals. It just might not be "corporate" enough for you DLC folks though!
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