The word 'moderate' is no longer meaningful

[entanglement]

Since the political center of gravity is far and away to the right, I suggest abandoning the use of this word as it is quite misleading. How about the following replacements?

semi-fascists
fascist-enablers
anti-liberals


Each of these terms accurately describes the left bashing tendencies of so-called 'moderates' while acknowledging the fact that they are not at the extreme right of the political spectrum.

[wyldwolf]

1. LOL!

Since the political center of gravity is far and away to the right

From YOUR lofty position on the left

I suggest abandoning the use of this word as it is quite misleading. How about the following replacements?

semi-fascists
fascist-enablers
anti-liberals

Or, how 'bout "the big meanies who won't let me have my way?"

Each of these terms accurately describes the left bashing tendencies of so-called 'moderates' while acknowledging the fact that they are not at the extreme right of the political spectrum.

Oh, the irony!

[geomon666]

2. He never claimed to be a moderate. n/t

[wyldwolf]

6. never claimed he claimed to be a moderate

[geomon666]

16. Then why are you attacking his attack on moderates? n/t

[ixion]

3. you're attacking alot

but you're not really saying anything. :evilgrin:

[wyldwolf]

7. see, there is the irony

The OP can call moderates semi-fascists, fascist-enablers, and anti-liberals, but even a mild rebuttal becomes "attacking alot."

[ixion]

18. Lighten up, Francis

I was just razzin' yeah.

You mocked the poster without offering any kind of rebuttal, which is well deserving of a rebuttal in and of itself, no?

It has nothing to do with your politics. :hi:

[entanglement]

5. Howdy,

semi-fascist!

:hi: :evilgrin:

[wyldwolf]

8. let me try it

Howdy...ummm... semi-commie? Semi-radical Islamic enabler?

Not that I really believe these things of you, but hell, I might as well "attack" with controversy.

[entanglement]

12. Believe me, I'd be glad to be called all that (and more)

if I could have even 20 genuine leftists occupying positions of power, fighting for the rights of the working class and the poor instead of pursuing empire, profits and oil.

[wyldwolf]

15. so why aren't there "20 genuine leftists occupying positions of power?"

[ClintonTyree]

4. Today's bleeding heart liberal...........

is the equivalent of a 50's Eisenhower Republican. The balance has truly gone too far to the right. The Republicans are very good at scaring Americans, there always has to be a bogey-man around the corner for them to succeed.

[annabanana]

9. Eisenhower's warnings about the Military - Industrial Complex

would get him labled an out and out communist in todays climate.

[entanglement]

13. So true

So true. n/t

[wyldwolf]

10. having a "a bogey-man" is human nature

The left's bogey-men are moderates and/or DLC.

[entanglement]

19. Not so.

It's not just votes and elections I'm talking about, but the fact that on so many fundamental, social/economic/political/moral questions today's 'moderates' are diametrically opposed to the left.

[wyldwolf]

20. everyone can justify or explain away their bogeyman

[xchrom]

11. there are no longer any moderates.

that is a dead political stand.

at the end of the day -- a moderate leaves in place -- supports -- the corporate branch of government.

and that's the heart of their extreme position.

[alvarezadams]

14. Through...

...ignorance and manipulation.

[xchrom]

17. the moderates themselves aren't so ignorant.

like much of american society there is an extraordinary portion of the population that suffers from a willful ignorance -- and then there are those moderates who are aware how things have shifted -- and and support it. and yes that is cynical and manipulative.

[alvarezadams]

25. I don't know how to interpret that.

"like much of american society there is an extraordinary portion of the population that suffers from a willful ignorance"

With ya.

"and then there are those moderates who are aware how things have shifted -- and and support it. and yes that is cynical and manipulative."

Who are you talking about?

[xchrom]

28. i consider folk like the clintons to be the kind of

''moderates'' who manipulate the current political and corporate landscape to their advantage and to bolster the power of certain corporate entities against that of the people.

i.e. cynical.

[alvarezadams]

30. Zactly

[LoZoccolo]

23. Ha ha ha ha.

Messing with the term "moderate" is not manipulation?

[LoZoccolo]

22. For messing with semantics.

See you in November.

[xchrom]

29. whatever.

[LoZoccolo]

21. For dividing so as to show off.

See you in November.

[Douglas Carpenter]

24. anxious for war/racist toward Muslims and Arabs = moderate

cautious about war/tolerant/wants to reduce tension with Arab/Muslim world = far left

It's really very simple to understand

[LincolnMcGrath]

26. Now you went and fired up the tired half dozen dlcentrists on DU.

Listen to the bleating, lol.

[eppur_se_muova]

27. Maybe we could go with Johnny Hart's "Lethargy" and "Apathy" parties ...

"Who are you going to vote for this year -- the Lethargy party or the Apathy party ?"

"Oh, I don't know ... there's really not a lot of difference between them anymore."

[The Magistrate]

31. Locking

This is deliberately disruptive flame-bait.