Are you worried about illegal immigrants or terrorists, what feels safest?

[babylonsister]

Which border should be protected now? Mexico or Canada?

[JHH]

1. Do you think terrorists are going to leave Canada because of the RCMP

because Canada law enforcement actually does its job shuold the US be afraid?

[nevergiveup]

2. Neither

I may be a fool but neither terrorists nor illegal immigrants concern me. I am more worried about whether I can continue my health insurance after I sell my small business and retire.

[JHH]

3. Move to Canada they have national health insurance

but the do not allow illegal immigrants here is the web site http://www.cic.gc.ca/

[Breeze54]

5. Not so easy to 'just'

move to Canada, unless you have an education or $$!

Yeah...both bother me...


typo correction

[JHH]

7. and education is a bad thing?

[Breeze54]

13. I didn't say that...

They want engineers and rocket scientists...

No! Education is a great thing...if you can afford it. ;(

[JHH]

17. read post 12

[gordianot]

10. You've got it. I like the idea of retirement and health insurance.

I am also worried about my children's future.

As one who is getting closer to retirement someday the deficit will work its wonders on my retirement dollars.

The jackasses who are worried about terrorist and illegals have got it wrong the threat is the GOP. We are being raided and taken by the greatest criminals ever to have darken the halls of government

[proud2BlibKansan]

4. Neither

I am more worried about bombing Iran.

[JHH]

6. Now that is something to be worried about

[TomInTib]

8. Neither, I am more worried about falling off a curb and the guy..

in the lane next to me in traffic.

I grew up with 'illegals' all around me in Texas and I have been a 'terrorist' in a losing cause.

[DBoon]

9. I'm worried bout a free fall in the dollar

making my earnings and my savings worthless.

[gordianot]

11. 100% correct

[WorseBeforeBetter]

14. I'll "third" that one. (n/t)

[Breeze54]

12. "Canada Doesn't Want Me" -- funny read...

http://www.isteve.com/Canada_Doesnt_Want_Me.htm

"Canada Doesn't Want Me"

Canada doesn't want me. I just found out that, if necessary,
the Royal Canadian Mounted Police would bar me from immigrating into Canada.

Why?

Because I'm just not good enough to be a Canadian.

With possible immigration reform much in the news in America, I decided to research
Canada's system for choosing immigrants.

Perhaps America could learn something from its northern neighbor.

The Canadian government has a voracious appetite for new immigrants.
The ruling Liberals intend to boost the legal immigration rate to 1 percent
of the population annually, about three times the American rate.
Despite that, I discovered, its official position is that the people currently
living in Canada would find my joining them to be less of a blessing than a curse.

In 15 minutes, on the government's "self-assessment worksheet" at Web site cic.gc.ca,
I was able to learn that Canada's considered judgment of me is,
"Don't call us, we'll call you."

On this nine-question test, a would-be immigrant to Canada must score a minimum
of 60 points out of 100 to qualify to be interviewed by a visa officer.

It's not that I particularly want to become a Canadian.
I'm a loyal American, born and bred.
I've only spent about six days in Canada in my life.
From what I saw (mostly the insides of Holiday Inn Crowne Plazas),
Canada seemed to be a fine country;
one blessed with Holiday Inn Crowne Plazas every bit as nice as those in my native land.
Still, I couldn't resist the challenge.

Was I man enough to be a Canadian?

I sat down to take the test.

First, I found, you get 8 points just for having a pulse.

"Hey, how hard can this be?" I said to my wife.

Then the test inquired into a series of important facts about oneself.

How old are you?
I'm 42, which won me the maximum of 10 points for being in my immigrating prime.
But not for long. I'll soon enter a rapid decline.

By age 49, I'll get zero points.

How much schooling have you had?
High school dropouts get zero; high school graduates, five;
college grads 15; advanced degree holders 16.

Those two long years I spent getting an MBA have finally paid off!
Chalk up 16 more points for me.

I'm rolling now, with a running total of 34 points.

:rofl: More at Link...
I thought this article was pretty funny...at the beginning.
:shrug:

Food for thought.

[JHH]

15. Thanks that says it all

[Breeze54]

16. It doesn't say squat but is good for a laugh!

Relax! Every country has its criteria, doesn't it? Excepting the USA.

[JHH]

18. It seemed to say that Canada's immigration policy made sense

[JHH]

19. well said

[Breeze54]

20. Glad you read the whole article. ... n/t

;)

[El Fuego]

26. Mexico's immigration laws are even more strict

You have to wealthy by Mexican standards to even be considered for immigration. Kind of ironic.

[sam sarrha]

21. Mexican migration is an invasion sponsored by the government of mexico

it is an effort to raise the standard of living of the Have it alls in Mexico that have a standard of living presently second only to France.. by exporting their poverty and uneducated... while encouraging them to *send money back into mexico.. *which is the largest growth industry in Mexico

the government advertizes on television and radio for people to leave and illegally enter the USA.

i was told this by a mexican who got a bus ride to the boarder by a government contractor.. for an illegal job already waiting for him.

[babylonsister]

22. I would love to see a link to that. No go otherwise. nt

[sam sarrha]

25. here is some info.. on Mexico encouraging migration of its poverty

the money being sent to mexico by migrants, this is the largest migration of peoples in the history of the Earth, is up to about $15,000,000,000 a year
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/2/26/164611.shtml

about colonial corporatism/fascism and poverty
http://www.globalexchange.org/countries/americas/mexico/slope/section3.html

[High Plains]

29. A guy on a bus told you something? It must be true.

I actually know quite a few Mexican immigrants. Never have I heard any of them say they got any assistance whatsoever from their government to immigrate.

Perhaps you are referring to a pamphlet put out by the Mexican government telling its citizens how to survive in the desert if they are making the crossing. But that hardly qualifies as "an invasion sponsored by the government of Mexico."

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

30. You've got a funny definition of the word "invasion"

When the Mongols invaded China, did they all rush in and pick their fruits and vegetables for low wages?

[Bridget Burke]

23. I don't lose sleep over either.....

However, the guys (& gals) in DC continue to give me nightmares.

[sinkingfeeling]

24. I'm not terribly worried about either. I'm more concerned with the USA's

swing to fascism than anything else.

[izzybeans]

27. It is all the gray haired ladies invading from the North that

give me the willies.

and the quebecois, don't get me started on the quebecois.

Oops. Nevermind that's just my wife's grandmother. Sorry. False alarm. No border crisis here. She's just come here to open up the condo for the winter. ;)

[Hidden Stillness]

28. Nothing is Being Addressed Honestly

I think the illegal immigration issue is far too complicated to just slander people with the "racist xenophobe" routine whenever they express any opposition to it. I have very mixed feelings about the issue, but I know that it has done much more harm to the previously-unionized parts of the middle class economy than people are paying attention to. Jobs such as meat-cutters in slaughterhouses--dangerous and "depressing" work--are highly skilled, used to be high-paid union jobs, (meat-cutters in supermarkets belong to a different union than the cashiers, baggers, produce dept., etc., because it is a skilled job), and over the past several years have been "quietly"--that is, censored by their media--shifted to low-skill illegal immigrant workers, with often disastrous results. The whole job category has been lowered, and is no longer treated as a skilled, union job. Many on-site construction jobs are the same way--what used to be very hard labor, and "therefore" highly-paid unionized work with OSHA safety protections--has now become low-paid illegal immigrant lobor, with no benefits at all, and all the union workers now permanently unemployed. Because there is now an imported, huge pool of potential workers for each and every job, and because these jobs are not even treated as skilled employment, the capitalist employer can kill the union and undercut all advances made since the New Deal and before, and not have to bash one head or lock anybody out; there are no labor negotiations or anything else anymore. They just hire illegals. Many areas nowhere near any border have suddenly found themselves competing with bused-in underpaid Mexican workers--guess who loses? This has been happening even in New Orleans, where the criminal Republicans have arranged reconstruction contracts to benefit Halliburton--no bid contracts, layers upon layers of subcontractors, none of whom are being tracked--their "guest" worker scheme, and everybody else but the people of New Orleans, who cannot find jobs or contracts anywhere.

I used to think about terrorists many years ago, when anti-abortion terrorists were murdering people and threatening the families of clinic workers, but I realized Republicans like that, so there would be nothing done to stop them. I used to worry about terrorists setting off bombs in Europe, etc., and worry that it might end up here, but after all the heavy-handed propagnada and scare tactic of the past several years, and meanwhile, no effort to find anyone--"Go shopping," etc.--and all the Republican consultant manipulating of advantage, "framing," slandering, etc., etc., the whole issue of terrorists seems so phony, so distant, so "annoying" even, that I laugh at the thought of it. "Oooh, terrorists! Run and hide!" After all these years of phony crap, I can't even react seriously anymore--Bush's numbers are down again? "Terror Alert!" This is also why we need a new Administration, so we can actually start addressing these real threats again, and stop fucking around with them for strategic, electioneering gain.