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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:02 AM
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So who will the Freepers blame for losing Iraq?
Over in Freepville, they're discussing how even O'Reilly now admits that invading Iraq was a colossal mistake. And surprise, surprise, quite a few Freepers now seem to agree with him.

So the question is -- who will the wingnuts blame for losing Iraq when it finally comes time (as it will) for the US to cut and run?

Conservative Republicans manufactured this war, promoted it, sold it, and oversaw every operational detail of it. So when the shit hits the fan, will those same conservative Republicans accept responsibility for what they've done?

Heck no -- otherwise, they wouldn't be conservative Republicans.

No, we can be certain that when Iraq becomes a visible canker on the lip of America, conservative Republicans will begin blaming everyone except the people who are really at fault for this disaster -- conservative Republicans.

They blamed the press for losing Viet Nam. Who do you think the right wing will blame for losing Iraq?

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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:05 AM
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1. If we stay we will lose more soldiers and civilians. It's not who to blame
for losing Iraq, it's who to blame for putting us there. Lies put us there and it's the liars who are responsible for this mess. Get out NOW!
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:07 AM
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2. Either "liberals" or "democrats", or perhaps just Clinton.
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kitkat65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 10:33 AM
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23. Oh yeah, Clinton, for sure n/t
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:09 AM
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3. It's time to 'cut and run' now; we can sort the bullshit out later.
Freepers don't seem to be able to grasp the concept that actual 'people' are involved and dying; well, then again, neither do their asshole leaders.
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rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:09 AM
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BILL CLINTON
Like, he let the Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor, dontcha know?

They gotta have a Boogeyman. The Big Dog is elected. They'll be running against Big Bill for the next 20 years.
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devinsgram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 10:30 AM
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22. That would be my guess also!
When in doubt, blame it on Clinton.
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:09 AM
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4. They will blame liberals for "not letting them nuke everybody and get it
over with"


We woulda end this war alot sooner if only the liberals woulda just let us nuked the brown a-rab bastards back to the stoneage!

::sarcasm::


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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:10 AM
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5. In retrospect, neither Vietnam nor Iraq were ever a threat
to us in any way possible. The argument should be as to who placed our troops there, with no justifiable cause.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:12 AM
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6. Clinton's Penis...
...always seems to be their fall-back position.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:25 AM
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9. They are rather pathetic with their obsession on Clinton
It's got to be his fault. The truth is they can't stand to be held accountable and responsible for their vote for W and destroying this country in the process.

Next to that is their obsession on sex. It's really a big thing to them. Gay sex is a no-no. They have all kinds of plans on when sex is OK, and the role of government in sex and birth control, abstinence, etc.

Sex is one of their top priority subjects. They mean business when it comes to sex. the meantime, the Villages, in Florida is heavily affluent Republican retirees with soaring STD rates. It gives you a good laugh. What a schizoid party.
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rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:29 AM
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10. Sex SCARES Them
After listening to the Swaggart-school preachers for many years, I decided RW'ers are really terrified of their own sexuality. They think of themselves as weak inside -- the urge to a rigid system of control appeals to them because they're so scared of losing control . . . of THEMSELVES.

Psychiatric Help = 5 cents
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:34 AM
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12. Good point. And their obsession with sex, has led to the deaths of...
...tens of thousands. I re-watched that Frontline tonight, about the beginnings of AIDS, and how it was addressed in the early stages Worldwide. Many countries dealt with it in a rational manner, working hard to educate their people. Even Thatcher in Britain instituted programs. Reagan and his clan didn't do a damn thing, underfunded research, and kept their heads in the sand, all for political/ideological reasons. It went into how private organizations in this country had to do educational programs about it, without government funding. Reagan and his gang, are criminals, who's actions led to the deaths of thousands.

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theabbot Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:38 AM
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13. Damn, you beat me to it.
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:16 AM
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jeez, I think i know some relevant song lyrics about that
Ah, but even old bull fighters, their gravestones in sight
Must search 'till they unearth one last bull to fight
And so it was with us, so near to the end
One last story to tell, one last hill to defend
One glance to avoid, one guitar to strum
One untruth to be told, one last song to be sung
And you, the most brilliant, most driven, most keen,
Jewel of a bastard I ever have seen
And you in your turn, the good bitch of the Nile
So real to the end, nothing left to defile
And me in the middle, along for the ride
The unwilling distraction from familiocide
And knowing our weaknesses, no one refrained
From picking and prodding till nothing remained

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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:16 AM
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7. In the current Harper's, (June 2006) is an article on this by
Kevin Baker, "Stabbed in the Back!" The magazine's blurb-synopsis of this piece reads: "Iraq lost, the Right begins the search for traitors."

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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:24 AM
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8. There is no doubt whom they will blame.
It will be something to the effect that the weak, anti-war extremist LIEberals so influenced the liberal media, with their defeatist talk and their George Soros financed blogs, moveons, and anything else that Limpblah can dream up, that it so undermined the righteous, glorious patriotism and peace through murder "conservative" masterpiece that the public and congress would no longer support them.

There is a thing called "confirmation bias" that is responsible for people's believing all sorts of zany, insupportable things and supporting ridiculous notions such as psychic crime solvers, intelligent design and compassionate conservatism. This phenomenon allows humans to filter information such that only the points, even false ones, that support the notions of the believer are allowed any permanence in their minds.

Sad reflection on humans.
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Ringo84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:40 AM
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16. EST
Wow.... that first paragraph sounded very much like some Freeper whacko.

You're probably right.
Ringo
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 01:18 AM
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17. Heheh!
Even though I avoid so-called conservative sites like most people avoid poison ivy, some of their illogical, bigoted, insane mutterings still filter through.
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PatrioticLeftie Donating Member (909 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:29 AM
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11. Us liberals
Because we didn't wave our flags hard enough
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:42 PM
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27. Probably. n/t
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:39 AM
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14. They'll blame us.
Why not? They blame us for everything else.
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Felix Mala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 09:41 AM
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20. They're already blaming us and the "lame" stream media...
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The Anti-Neo Con Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:40 AM
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15. Jimmy Carter maybe? n/t
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 08:17 AM
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18. The "leftist liberals" in Congress....
the spin has already begun. You see, the "leftist liberals" that have so much power in Congress have prevented the Republicans from taking care of things the way they should have been, presumably nuking half the world into oblivion.

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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 08:45 AM
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19. Oh hell - they'll blame the gays.
It doesn't matter that the military expells them, or that the U.S. military won't protect Iraqi gays from being murdered by religious fanatics - they'll figure out a way to blame the gays just like they blamed them for 9/11 and Hurricane Katrina.
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 09:56 AM
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21. They'll blame the media, gays and the anti-war movement
Edited on Wed May-31-06 09:57 AM by Anarcho-Socialist
Despite the media's aggression in trying to nail Bill Clinton on his 'scandals', the freepers blamed the media for "not being aggressive enough" in trying to get rid of him, and saw it as "proof of the media's liberal bias."

If the US fails in Iraq, the freepers will blame the anti-war movement who they consider traitors ("giving comfort to the enemy"), and they'll blame the media for actually running occasional stories that go against the neocon line (Abu Ghraib), simultaneously forgetting the easy pass the media gave the Republican hawks on the run up to the invasion of Iraq.

They might even blame the military for being "too effeminate" for not "killin' a-nuff A-rabs", and blame the influence of women and gays.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 10:41 AM
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24. MSM
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 10:55 AM
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25. The French, 'lieberals' and
the 'Democrat party'. :rofl:
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 11:40 AM
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26. 1. Bill/Hillary Clinton 2. Michael Moore 3. The Dixie Chicks
1. Everything bad in the world is the fault of the Clintons.
2. Michael Moore-he committed sedition or treason with F911. He undermined the troops by showing that they weren't greeted by locals carrying flowers.
3. The Dixie Chicks. A musician says she doesn't like the sitting president, so she must be at fault for the troops having problems.
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suigeneris Donating Member (471 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:47 PM
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28. Liberals, no question about it. I'm a card-carrying liberal so
eff 'em.
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mwooldri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:50 PM
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29. The Belgians.
Heck, got to blame someone - they just can't own up to mistakes!

Mark.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 01:02 PM
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30. Easy - Murtha and Kerry and toss in Feingold for extra credit.
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windy252 Donating Member (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 01:42 PM
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31. My guess
is former President Carter because blaming the Clenis is getting kind of old.
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JackDragna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 04:30 PM
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32. Us, of course.
..for undermining the war at the home front, reducing our soldiers' morale and their ability to fight.
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