Richard Perle has a hell of a lot of nerve

[noamnety]

Richard Perle had a PBS camera crew about 80 or 90 yards off to the side of the Speakers' Rostrum @ yesterday's AFSC Eyes Wide Open (BOOTS) Demo, in Washington, DC. The PBS Producers said they were rehabilitating Perle's image, so he can be kicked upstairs, similar to the Bush promotion of Paul Wolfowitz to the World Bank.

They thought they wouldn't be noticed using the "Boots" demo background during the speaking portion of the EWO demo, but Philly VVAW & VFP-31 signaled our speakers line-up, and we surrounded the Adolf Eichman of the Bush Administration, and had BIG FUN humiliating the MURDERER!

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/sites/afterdowningstreet.org/files/images/4%20Jonathan%20Millantz,%20Michael%20Blake%20and%20Jessica%20Mollinson%20Tripple-Team%20Perle.preview.jpg

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/perle

[Hissyspit]

1. Wow, that's just bizarre. That is a lot of nerve. K&R

From Wikipedia:

Perle is said to be the person behind the US policy on Iraq (see also: U.S. plan to invade Iraq). He believed that Saddam Hussein's control of the government was weak, and that an invasion of Iraq would remove Saddam from power within weeks.

In an interview for "Saddam's Ultimate Solution", the July 11, 2002 episode of the PBS series Wide Angle, he said:

Saddam is much weaker than we think he is. He's weaker militarily. We know he's got about a third of what he had in 1991. But it's a house of cards. He rules by fear because he knows there is no underlying support. Support for Saddam, including within his military organization, will collapse at the first whiff of gunpowder. Now, it isn't going to be over in 24 hours, but it isn't going to be months either.
As of late 2005, the war continued -- years beyond the end Perle had predicted.

In the leadup to the war, Perle also complained that C.I.A. officials were so hostile to defectors brought out of Iraq by the Iraqi National Congress that they refused to interview them and even tried to discredit them. "But ultimately, the flow of information was so vital and so overwhelming that they could no longer ignore it", he is quoted as saying. One such defector was Ihsan Saeed al-Haideri, who claimed that chemical and biological weapons laboratories were hidden beneath hospitals and inside presidential palaces.(New York Times, January 24, 2003. Judith Miller). If such weapons or evidence ever existed they were never found. Judith Miller has since retired from the New York Times in disgrace.

Perle advocated invading Iraq with only 40,000 troops, and complained about the calls by then Gen. Eric Shinseki to use 250,000 troops.

[noamnety]

2. For anyone not familiar with the boots

They are set up by the folks at Eyes Wide Open, managed by American Friends Service Committee (a humanitarian Quaker organization). Traveling with the display, setting it up, tearing it down is very labor intensive - and the last thing they are setting it up for is to help promote the PNAC crowd that lied us into the war.

[no_hypocrisy]

3. Double wow. I thought my donation to PBS was going to Big Bird . . . n/t

[Julius Civitatus]

19. We need to spread this far and wide

Why is PBS working as a private PR firm for a disgraced former Republican official?

This is the stuff of third-world countries and their state-owned broadcast systems.

[DoYouEverWonder]

4. The looks on everyones faces is priceless

It's like the look of horror one would get when you meet pure evil.

Glad they got to humiliate him. Bravo.

[Tuesday_Morning]

20. more good pix of this

at the Downing Street link.

[Cooley Hurd]

5. Bush doesn't care about "rehabilitated" images in his admin...

Perle's an egomaniac and a sociopath. Franken's interview of him was stunning in the way Perle was completely unrepentant for his role in the Iraq War.:grr:

[Chimichurri]

6. I'm glad he finally got the earful he deserved! And right to his face

no doubt.

PBS? Say it isn't so :(

[katinmn]

7. Ha! Perle's having a bad week. Leader of Iraq's Freedom Congress

joined him at a press conference in Washington.
http://www.ifcongress.com/English/News/may06/samir-richard.htm

In a Press Conference, Samir Adil Faces Richard Perle (The Former Chairman of the Defence Policy Board Advisory Committee) with the Failure of the US Policy in Iraq

During his visit to the United States to deliver workshops and seminars and meet with the leaders of the anti war movement, Samir Adil, president of (IFC) met coincidently with Richard Perle (The Former Chairman of the Defense Policy Board Advisory Committee in the US, whose role known as the war on Iraq engineer and the closest advisor to Donald Rumsfeld and George Bush) in a press conference in Washington. One of the reporters asked Samir Adil: don’t you think the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq will cause a power vacuum and spread anarchy in the society?

Samir responded by saying: presently we live in chaos and power vacuum. Living in the Amazon jungles is much better than living in Iraq. How do you explain the ability of killing anyone by only paying $100 to hit man in the daylight and in front of the police forces? How do you explain killing 14 people in Baghdad because their names refer to a Sunni sect, on the other end people are getting killed because their names referred to Shiite sect? What do you call massacring 76 people in Basra without any justification? How do you explain the raid of the police forces on the Adamya district who were once classified by the ministry of interior as Sunni, the fight goes on for two days forcing the people to take their security into their own hands and defend themselves before the US troops eyes? We actually live in constant disarray and power vacuum and the US troops must leave immediately.

Another reporter asked “who caused these conditions?”

Samir answered: the US policy is the one who created this chaos and divided the society into ethnic and sectarian groups. In the eve of the war, precisely in London conference that was sponsored by the US administration and UK government to legitimize their war on Iraq, in that meeting several parties and groups based on ethnic and religious sects were brought together to form a government after ousting Saddam’s regime. This government was formed after the invasion and legitimized through a sectarian constitution. The occupation brought those groups and forced them upon the Iraqis and transferred Iraq into a terrorist battlefield. I want to tell you that the US project in Iraq has failed miserably, that’s after 3 years of occupation more than 5 million people in Iraq live under poverty line, we witness the youth sell their kidneys for $900- $1200 to feed their families, women resort to prostitution to make living, mountains of trash filling the cities, and finally the summer is around the corner and the temperature is expected to reach up to 55 C° nevertheless; the electricity is in its worse shape ever. The Iraqi people today crying out saying we do not want freedom, we do not want prosperity, we can live with piece of bread and water and let us live with peace and safety, we want to live. The sectarian violence is burning the country. The US troops must leave at once. We are able to build a democratic society, establish a non-ethnic, non-religious government, and give the society one identity that defines Iraqi as human being and only human being. The record of the US administration and the western governments shows that they have never supported any libertarian and secular movement not only in Iraq but in the entire Middle East. We in Iraq Freedom Congress represent this trend and we are able to end these tragic conditions.

Apparently those answers have displeased Richard Perle who asked Samir “where were you under Saddam’s regime?” and he meant that Samir was one of Saddam’s followers because of his opposition to the war.

Samir responded saying: in 1992 I was jailed, and tortured for 25 days. I know what Saddam’s regime is. No one can know him except those who spent some time in his prisons. I am still having difficulties hearing and still suffering from chronic pain in my left leg however I strongly oppose destructing the society entirely and killing civilians to overthrow Saddam. Yesterday we had one Saddam but today we have tens of him.

Then Richard Perle asked Samir: what was your position on the war?

Samir answered: our movement was against the war and occupation before it even started and actually expected those outcomes.

Richard Perle has shown sings of resentment however he did not reply or make any comments.

This meeting have motivated the leaders of the anti war movement who were organizing an event in front of the Congress building titled “Silence of the Dead, Voices of the Living” sponsored by American Friends Services Committee where Samir Adil deliver his speech.

Iraq Freedom Congress
Media Centre
May 14, 2006

Samir Adil
President of Iraq Freedom Congress

[Pachamama]

8. PBS will never see another donation from me again...

I don't know what is more sickening...that my funds went to something associated with Richard Perle (when I thought it was going to Sesame Street and NOW) or that PBS would even choose to be associated with him. Shouldn't it have been a team from FOX with him?

:puke:

[formercia]

9. It's all about legitimacy

PBS is perceived as a legitimate and unbiased forum by most, as opposed to FOX and they have a lot more mainstream viewership.

PBS is going to hear about this big time.

[Pachamama]

11. Legitimacy comes from association w/ legitimate subjects & people...

...and Richard Perle is as far from that as I can think of...

Maybe it was editorial comment from a non-PBS individual, but I thought the comment about bolstering/re-habilitating Richard Perle's image, is NOT the job of PBS using our donations and taxpayer funds. If Perle wants to go from the Prince of Darkness to Prince Charming, he can try with his own Hollywood special effects crew! (And it would require "special effects" and a great make-up artist - the guy looks like sh*t and evil).

Anyway, PBS will be hearing from me and lots like us who are sickened by their association and "illegitimacy"....

[formercia]

14. I absolutely agree

give them hell for me too. :evilgrin:

[Hoping4Change]

21. PBS has really changed. Late the other night I watched the

intro to a programme about starting small businesses. The motivational intro advises viewers to ignore the "negative elitists". I couldn't believe that I was hearing that kind a drivel on PBS.

[hootinholler]

10. "The PBS Producers said they were rehabilitating Perle's image"

Since when is that part of any job description at PBS?!?!

This is a real WTF moment for me. Someone please explain this to me. How is this possible? This needs to get publicity!

-Hoot

[noamnety]

12. I should have included PBS in the thread title

I was just so disgusted that Perle was trying to profit off the dead soldiers and the labor of the anti-war activists - I've helped bag and haul some of those boots, so I take it personally.

He needs to find some other graves to dance on.

[hootinholler]

13. I would like to see a more permanant version...

I'm thinking bronzed combat boots placed on the Arligton Memorial Bridge. A year ago it would have lined the bridge with a pair every yard or so.

Or maybe placed on the Capitol steps.

-Hoot

[The Witch]

15. According to Randi, Perle gave Cindy some crap.

Said "debate me" or whatever. She was really mad.

[noamnety]

16. She doesn't look like she was backing down

[gratuitous]

17. Once you drink the unicorn blood, it's hard to lower yourself further

But Perle seems to have a personal knack for it.

I helped out with the Boots display in Charleston WV during the Church of the Brethren Annual Conference there. Sad to say, it took considerably less person power to put the boots on display and put them back into their containers at the end than it does today.

[Julius Civitatus]

18. Wait!!! Why is PBS doing PR for Perle????

What the f*ck is going on here?

Why is a public entity working as the private PR firm of the infamous, disgraceful Richard Perle?

The PBS Producers said they were rehabilitating Perle's image, so he can be kicked upstairs, similar to the Bush promotion of Paul Wolfowitz to the World Bank.

WTF????

:wtf:

[RJRoss]

22. I'll say Perle has nerve

Al Franken had him on his radio show last week. Franken was talking about the insurgency in Iraq, and mentioned one of his trips to Talafar. He asked Perle "You know where that is, you've been to Iraq, right?" Richard Perle has NEVER EVEN BEEN TO IRAQ.

[annabanana]

23. Perle is a traitor.

The aims of the PNAC are unAmerican, and contraconstitutional. He should be tried for treason along with the rest of the empire-lusting viper's nest.

[phoebe]

24. off topic - remember that RP has been meeting with Iranian dissidents

in "cramped hotel rooms" - the location of which Joe Public is not entitled to know..Where have we heard stories like this before folks??

http://www.nysun.com/article/32367

snip

Iranian Dissident to Seek Support For Opposition

By ELI LAKE - Staff Reporter of the Sun
May 9, 2006

Less than 24 hours after one of Iran's leading dissidents and authors escaped to a neighboring state, the former chairman of the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board, Richard Perle, interrupted his trip to central Asia to meet with him in a cramped hotel room.

The meeting between Mr. Perle and Amir Abbas Fakhravar on April 29, in a location both men have asked not appear in print, may end up being as important as the first contacts between Mr. Perle and the ex-Soviet dissident Natan Sharansky in the 1980s.

snip

Mr. Perle first made contact with Mr. Fakhravar while he was first in prison and the two have kept in touch since the Iranian student leader went into hiding. They have spoken regularly for three years and Mr. Fakhravar is hoping to use Mr. Perle's contacts in America to build solidarity for his country's democratic movement. (How sweet..)

snip

The Iranian author does not share this view. "In my eyes I saw the prince of light, not the prince of darkness," Mr. Fakhravar said. "I could see in his eyes he is worried for our people as well as the American people and this is very important and this is very special. Of course, Mr. Perle has the interest of the American people at heart. And I have the interest of the Iranian people at heart. But there is a common goal and interest."

That just about says it all..

[Usrename]

25. These guys have to face a judge and a jury.

That's all there is to it. They will not stop, they will not police themselves, they don't even know that what they are doing is wrong. It's truly frightening.

[Texas_Kat]

26. Clark slapped Perle around a year ago.

Just replay the House Armed Services Committee hearing where Wes smacked him upside the head about the results of the PNAC 'Iraq plan" ( http://www.securingamerica.com/hasc1 ).

Almost every congressman (with the exception of the evil troll Duncan Hunter) kept repeating:

"Wes Clark told us so, we didn't listen. Explain it to us, Richard Perle.... how come you were wrong on EVERYTHING you said?"

[Blue_Tires]

27. k+r

[BrklynLiberal]

28. Excellent!! Thanks for posting.

Looks like Cindy got right up into his face.:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: