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lwcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 09:03 AM
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This stuff really pisses me off ("Both parties are the same" crap)
A myspace user reposted a bulletin with the diatribe included at the bottom.

The last line is all you need to read: "Anyone who honestly believes that there is a difference between Democrats and Republicans understands the world he lives in about as much as Ozzy Ozbourne understands particle physics."

Here's what I sent the person who posted it:

Sorry to be critical here, but franky, I think this is a load of B.S.

Yes, the Democrats aren't ideal, and money plays too big a part in politics.

But there is a massive difference between a true statesman like Al Gore and a corrupt stooge like George W. Bush.

The reality is that we have a two-party system, and the wrong party is frighteningly well organized and ready to capitalize on any lack of solidarity from progressives.

There have been tens of thousands of people senselessly killed because of Bush's misdeeds, and our country went from a record surplus to a record deficit on his watch. Who you vote for (or who you let steal an election) makes an enormous difference.

Commentary like this bulletin only serves to make people apathetic and not vote or throw away a vote that can make a difference (like in Florida in 2000) to make a "morally superior" gesture like voting for Nader.

Please discourage people from re-distributing this disempowering, holier-than-thou propaganda.

Its only point is to paralyze progressives with easy all-politicans-suck answers, rather than staying in the game and figuring out how to help make the Democratic Party be all that it can be. Especially elected.


And here is the bulletin, which has no doubt been circulated all around myspace by impressionable young people:

From: Waking the Dead...
Date: May 13, 2006 5:41 PM

I am dismayed when I see how many people direct their anger towards Bush and think that impeaching him will solve the problem.

The two party system is a fraud. When we get pissed at one party and vote them out, the opposite party continues the same policies that they ran against. Both parties are owned and opperated by the same masters.

You will learn much by researching the Council On Foreign Relations.

The CFR has been in power, regardless of what party is in office, since its founding in 1921. Every Presidential cabinet since that time has been composed of over 90 percent CFR members.

When you know what the agemda of the CFR is, it all makes sense. The CFR is working towards world government, as written in their own reports. World Government means that there can be not other independent nation states... no USA... no Constitution...

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Please take the time to research this topic. This is the most comprehensive article that I have seen on this issue.
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One Party Masquerading as Two

By Ryan Sullivan

Do you believe there is a vast ideological divide between the two major political parties in this country? Perhaps you rationalize your devotion to one party or the other in the name of a percieved lesser evil. Perhaps you are just a dim bulb and really believe that one of these parties actually represents the best interests of the majority of humanity, despite a few token bad eggs.

If you are dumb enough to take someone like the fake-conservative Bush apologist Lush Limbaugh seriously, you might actually think that the Republican party could be a serious threat to socialism if only they could cleanse the party of its well entrenched liberalism.


Lets face the facts jack. The Republican party is just as liberal and perverted as the Democratic party and any dreams that some people may have of purging the party and instituting a real force for conservativism in this country are seduced by opiates far stronger than Rush Limbaughs dope.

Now before I go any further, Im not here to necessarily bash the Democrats or the Republicans per se, but I am writing to illustrate that they are in fact more-or-less the same thing, often differing in rhetoric, but when it comes to action, they are the same people leading us to the same end.

Today's rant has largely been triggered by Bushs arch-liberal choice for the Supreme Court, Harriet Miers. Not only does it smack of cronyism, but its also not even a conservative choice. The Dems love Miers! If its not obvious enough that something is wrong when Senate Minority Leader Dingy Harry Reid recommends Miers, she has also supported such unconservative ideas as the International Criminal Court, homosexual adoptions, women in combat and a tax hike.


Of course the real reason that Miers is Bushs appointee is in all actuality a probable combination of her proven loyalty to Bush in the past by purging his military record of that pesky AWOL thing, along with subtle blackmail over 911. It was Harriet Miers who personally briefed Bush on bin Ladens determination to attack America during that infamous meeting mentioned in Fahrenheit 911 that took place in August 2001. This was advice that obviously went unheeded to say the least.

Or maybe Miers is just a bit of insurance in case arch-crime-lord Bush winds up in front of the Supreme Court one day.


But I digress

As our first real step in exposing the sham of the false left-versus-right paradigm, lets look at some of the more obvious liberal tendencies of the Republicans. Anyone who pays even a modicum of attention to the news knows that the spending of our Republican controlled Congress would make FDR blush. Then we have the so-called conservative Bush teaming up with democrats in rationalizing the need for prescription drugs subsidies and worthless, so-called education bills. Then theres Bush along with the liberal media denouncing the real patriots and conservatives such as the minutemen as vigilantes. Bush has also been applauded by the anti-gun crowd several times, most notably in denying our pilots the right to defend themselves. There is also a strong pro-choice movement among the Republicans. Many Republicans support gay rights now. This should come as no surprise because many prominent Republicans such as David Dreier are openly gay themselves. Not to mention that many high ranking members of both of the Bush administrations and even the Reagan administration are gay and possibly even engaging in pederasty. According to Webster G. Tarpley & Anton Chaitkin, Bush 41 paid convicted kiddie-pimp Lawrence King money and left a party with a 19 year old prostitute named Brent! And then theres the whole Jeff Gannon male-prostitute/White House insider thing.


Before I go further with this, lets get something perfectly straight about gay rights. Gay rights do not and can not legitimately exist. The term gay rights is actually a code word for what would more accurately be described as gay entitlements, resulting in hiring quotas, classroom quotas and welfare programs all at the expense of the tax payer and arguably more qualified and needy non-gays. Entitlement programs are the hallmark of invasive government and only trample everybodys freedom in the long run, even those who the entitlements are supposed to help. The same goes for affirmative action and any other nanny-state welfare program. Look at what has happened to inner-city blacks as a result of LBJs Great Society. Things have gone from bad to worse. Robin Hood is without a doubt the most evil do-gooder of legend. The politics of wealth redistribution will turn us into the Soviet Union.

And another thing before passing judgment on me for being some kind of a right-wing homophobe fascist. I have nothing for or against gay people. I judge all people on a case-by-case basis. I even have some gay friends. What I am trying to illustrate here is that the Republican party is not conservative.

I digress yet again .

Where was I? Oh yeah, that liberal-fuck Bush! We could go further and talk about Bush 43s new War on Porn, which is so fraudulent its laughable. If Bush wants to wage war on porno then he should start by not hanging out with porn stars who openly admit they want to screw his daughters.


It disgusts me how the Bush administration has the audacity to declare a war on porn, while employing a minimum of one or two male prostitutes at any given time and inviting porn-stars to dinner. Meanwhile the soldiers Bush has sent oversees to die for an Iraqi democracy are punished for trying to get something to masturbate to. Maybe if the rank and file troops were held to a more realistic model of behavior, they wouldnt have to illegally take out their aggressions via torture on prisoners and violate the Geneva Convention in order to get a sexual release!

And one more side note, this one about Bush's BIG war ... anyone with half a brain knows that democracy, AKA mob rule, is just another face of tyranny. Democracy was in fact a completely abhorrent idea to the founding fathers. America is a Republic, not a democracy, see the U.S. Constitution, Article IV, Section 4. Remember the Pledge of Allegiance? Remember that the next time some retard ditto-head starts puking out bromides about how noble it is to die for democracy. I dont even think the word democracy even appears in the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence. If you can find it, please tell me where it is. I have read both and if that word is there, I have clearly overlooked it and I deserve to be corrected.


And now back to our regularly scheduled subject ...

Speaking of the war in Iraq, the Democratic leadership, just like the Republicans are not only pro-war, but have every intention on burying the Downing Street Memo and any other evidence that proves that the pretext for war in Iraq was cooked up.

Ahnuld

Republican governator Arnold Schwarzeneggar has openly called for his party to move leftward. All that time in Hollywood has made Ahnuld openly pro-gay, pro-choice and a protector of pedophiles. Un-conservative Republican Arnold Schwarzeneggar also favors gun control.


Pro-choice, anti-gun Guiliani is another one. That ugly fucker is probably even going to seriously seek the Republican nomination for president in 2008.

Bush and Clinton are Blow Buddies

You simply cant come up with better poster boys for the one party system than the fact that Bush 41 and Bill Clinton are actually the best of friends. Many people just cannot accept this but Im afraid the facts are just not in their favor.

Clinton and Bush like to go boating together. Both Bush 41 and 43 joined Clinton at the dedication of his library. Bush 41 says his bond with Clinton is exemplary. Barbara Bush calls Clinton her son.


Bush and Clinton are now a real team. Even the New York Times admitted that this is one of the most unlikely teams in modern American politics. And when they travel for their disaster relief efforts, it is anything but a hostile environment. The two travel like peas in a pod.

Isnt the president the de facto head of his political party? Arent the two political parties supposed to oppose one another? Why the fuck are these two supposed opposites so buddy-buddy?

Lets not forget about the whole impeachment thing either! Remember Clinton was still in potentially hot water when Bush 43 took over. Everybody was talking about this five years ago. Where the hell were you? The big question was will Bush pardon Clinton?


Of course, when Republicans such as Senator Orrin Hatch are calling for Clinton to be given a pass on an indictment, its no surprise when Dubya brushes off the whole affair and covers for his buddy, Bill.

I would not count on Bush ever getting impeached by the way. First of all, the congress is controlled by Republicans and if the Republicans wont even punish Clinton after impeaching him, they will surely be even milder with "one of their own".


Bush 43 takes advice from Bubba all the time and both have the same policy when it comes to a real threat like China, the third country in history to put a man in space. Dubya often speaks glowingly of Clinton and Clinton reciprocates with quick help to Dubya's problems.


When Clinton was in the hospital for quadruple bypass heart surgery, Bush 41 was almost instantly on the telephone to express his concern. 41 was quoted as saying 'Bill, what the hell happened to you?'

Hardly sounds like bitter enemies to me.

All this rivalry between the Clinton and Bush camps is all stage managed.

Even when one side or the other has to give the the obligatory lip service to the false right-versus-left paradigm used to distract the bewildered herd from the real issues, and uses charged language against the other, at the end of the day, its like it never happened. The insults are taken in stride because both sides know its just a charade anyway and both are still on the same side.


False opposition.

Bill Clinton and George Bush are also both members of arguably the most secret and powerful of old mans clubs in North America, the Bohemian Grove. They do all sorts of wacky stuff at the Bohemian Grove like partying with gay porn stars and Arnold Schwarzeneggar, plus engaging in strange mock human sacrifice, and the bohos as they call themselves also plan the most hush-hush of secrets, such as in 1942 when the members of the Bohemian Grove hatched the Manhattan Project.


Nothing to worry about. Keep shopping. Look at the floor and everything will be okay.

The Bush-Clinton love-fest is just being admitted to now, but the two go back a long way. The real story of the bond between Clinton and Bush begins at the Mena airstrip in Arkansas.

In a nutshell, during the early 1980s, while Bill Clinton was governor, the Mena airstrip was instrumental in the Iran-Contra affair, and was used by the government to run drugs, weapons and cash. The shipments of guns and cash went to the Contras and/or the Iranians either directly or otherwise and the whole operation was funded by off-the-books drug money courtesy of the CIA and their connections with the Cali-Medellin cocaine cartels, manifesting itself in the crack cocaine boom. Even PBS speculates that Vice-President Bush was probably intimately involved yet never charged.


One of several go-nowhere-investigations into Iran Contra was coincidentally headed by John Kerry and in the tradition of the Warren Commission was a total white-wash of the whole affair, because .

The Bush-Kerry Connection

George Bush and John Kerry are cousins. Not only that but the Bushes and John Kerry are also members of the most exclusive and secret fraternity in America, the infamous Skull and Bones society at Yale, where only 15 people per year are inducted and there are less than 900 living members world-wide. However in 2004 we just so happened to break all the laws of probability and have the two men vying for leader of the free word status just so happen to be from the same ultra-exclusive, ivy league, racist, Nazi, sex and death cult.

Sure Bush and Kerry give lip service to minorities. Theres a word for it where they come from. People fitting the profile of say Condoleeza Rice and Alberto Gonzales are often considered honorary whites by the racist white elite.

Of course the Nazi SS had the same insignia as the Skull and Bones society. This should come as no surprise because Dubyas grandfather and Skull and Bones member Prescott Bush funded Hitler. We barbarians or non-bonesmen as we are referred to by them, refer to the secret society as Skull and Bones, but the real name of the group is The Order of Death. The Nazi SS also referred to themselves as The Order of Death too.


Nervous yet?

Of course when Bush and Kerry were each individually questioned by Tim Russert on Meet the Press about their membership in the secret society and what that means for America, both Bush and Kerry said the same thing. They both said that is a secret and therefore they cant talk about it.

Why so hush hush?

Anyone who has done their homework about the Skulls knows that they like many other sinister organizations keep their secrets so well because they are sexually blackmailed from day one. Not to mention they engage in bizarre satanic rituals. Of course, in return, the boys of the Skull and Bones society are guaranteed to rise to positions at the highest levels of the geo-political power structure.


Same Financial Backers

Yeah, yeah, yeah weve heard it all before, corporations are not allowed to contribute to federal elections. Bullshit. Look at Tom Delay.

Now before you start thinking Im some kind of communist, let me just say that corporations are not necessarily a bad thing. Without corporations we would still be stuck in the middle ages. Do they tend to abuse their power though? Absolutely!

The philosophy of almost any financial backer of any politician is intrinsically duplicitous. It is the philosophy of what is known as Hegelian Dialectic, or in laymans terms, playing both sides.

Take Enron for example. In 2000 Enron gave $113,800 in soft money contributions to George W. Bush and $13,750 to Al Gore. In 1996 Enron gave $95,650 to Dole and $11,000 to Clinton. Obviously Enron favors the Republicans, but they are just hedging a bet, not putting all the eggs in one basket.


Its kind of surprising that Enron didnt give more money to Clinton or Gore because just like George W. Bush, Clinton and Gore were one of Enrons biggest cheerleading squads.

But Enron is just a drop in the bucket really. All corporations behave the same way. Some favor democrats, some favor Republicans, but most financial backers always play both sides! Click here to see the track record of big oil. How about the mainstream medias contributions? See the track record of virtually any group that ever gave money to a politician here. Virtually every single one of them plays both sides . Just in case.


All Elections are Rigged


Anyone wearing an I voted sticker is a moron. However anyone wearing two or more I voted stickers has at least got somewhat of a grip on reality. Not only are the two parties indistinguishable from one another, your vote doesnt count. Of course there are the usual dead people that seem to vote every single election, but we all know what the big problem is. Its the voting machines.

Computer voting started in the 1960s and there are dozens of instances of computer error in tabulating votes.

This goes way beyond error though. The voting machines are vulnerable to deliberate manipulation and for all purposes, the fraud is undetectable.

Even computer scientists cant figure it out. They call it spaghetti code or a bucket of worms.


80 percent of all voting is tabulated by either Diebold or ES&S, which are both owned by the Urosevich family who employ felons as programmers and consultants and whose power is virtually unchecked.

Of course all politicians know democracy is a sham. For John Kerry to question the election results would be to expose the fraud inherent in the system.

I can deal with a system that has a few imperfections, but in America we dont even have a real choice. There is only the illusion of opposition. The giga-rich rule the earth.


Anyone who honestly believes that there is a difference between Democrats and Republicans understands the world he lives in about as much as Ozzy Ozbourne understands particle physics.


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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 09:07 AM
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1. defense mechanism
The mind has ingenious ways to avoid acknowledging failure.

Many of my Republican acquaintances are claiming they've always been "libertarian"...

whatever.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 09:07 AM
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2. It's the Repug "Out of Ammo" argument...
Edited on Sun May-14-06 09:07 AM by zulchzulu
Whenever I hear a Repug say that, I assume they are either "out of ammo" or they haven't a goddamn clue about the difference between the parties...but the usual thing I find is that they don't vote, which is fine in the end.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 09:14 AM
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4. Out of ammo... you nailed it!
That was my thought exactly. It's all about the talking points to them and this one shows so much desperation it's laughable. So what if Bush is a evil and corrupt ass when all politicians are the same. Brilliant.
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lwcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 02:13 PM
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15. One reason this sort of spiel is especially dangerous...
... is that it doesn't sound like it's coming from a Republican. It sounds like hip, counterculture talk, like it's from someone who's plugged into the Howard Zinn and/or Noam Chomsky zeitgeist.

No matter what sort of person wrote it, I think we need to recognize that this kind of disempowering crap is out there and be ready to shame people into voting for the best electable candidate, because the bad guys are very happy to line up and vote for the worst.

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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 08:03 AM
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19. And it was probably crafted at the TAX-EXEMPT Heritage Foundation. nt
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 09:10 AM
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3. The notion is irrational, manipulative, or both.
In either case, I'd really not rather sift through all the posts that use that Naderite argument, and I'm generally putting them on ignore until after the 2006 election. I invite others to do the same; every clown needs an audience, but we've got work to do.
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lwcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 01:26 PM
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13. Here's why I think we need to care...
...swing voters, many of whom are young and impressionable, are very susceptible to the following:

* The McCain-as-maverick myth
* The they're-all-the-same-so-don't-vote myth

For those reasons, I don't think we should shut our eyes and ears to what's making the rounds.

More than ever, the Repubs are going to want to supress voter turnout, since their base is more reliable about showing up at the polls. Part of the work we have ahead is to invigorate swing voters, young voters, etc., and encouraging them to be critical about these myths and to make a progressive difference.

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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 09:33 AM
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5. What a kooky windbag!
I couldn't even make it through his whole crazy rambling rant. Someone needs to up his meds!
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skeeters2525 Donating Member (159 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 09:37 AM
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6. Say Hi To President Jeb Bush
Here we go again folks. Another election and the same Stooges will be with us.

If anyone believes President Gore would be the same as Bush, please sell your computer and hide under your bed sucking your thumb.

Enjoy getting Nader his every four year one percent and shoving another Republican into our lives. Worked so well the last two elections.

And we thought Democrats were smart. They are worse then Bush when it comes to making the same mistakes over and over.


Are you looking for the rapture? Are you looking to make money on the next ten wars? Are you an alien that wants to take over the planet?

Folks. Please don't waste your time with this braindead argument. Oops, like I just did. Will I ever learn.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 09:47 AM
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7. How do you explain the DU faction that has not prob w/ sr & Bubba?
Ref "Anyone else sick of seeing elder * & bubba joined at the hip?"



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2624405&mesg_id=2624405

Comments like:

"Doesn't bother me---why on earth would it?"

"That is my take on it, too. Too much going on in my home state of confusion to be worried about Bush sr. and Bill."

"No, I don't care"

"I actually like this twosome (Bubba and Bush) Bill is the son Bush wish he had, and we all know that Bill didn't have a father. I like that they can relate to each other and I think the relationship is good for both of them. Dems should get over this resentment. These two ex-presidents are good together and together do some good."

So when myspacers see these two together, coupled with no the junior regeim's crimes and no calls for impeachment, no wonder they see no difference.


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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 09:50 AM
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8. Additional bedfellows
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skeeters2525 Donating Member (159 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 10:39 AM
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11. Bubba And Bush Sr.
Big Frickin Deal.

Is Clinton campaigning for the Republicans?

I believe they got together for tsuanami relief. And also bonded as ex-Presidents.

Again, all the problems in this Country and this is important. PUKE


Like you have never hugged a Republican.

BTW. We'd be a helluva lot better off with SR. Bush. He didn't invade Iraq.

Of course he is making money off it. But then the family made money from Hitler.

So ask yourself this, in this useless thread that I am wasting my time on.

Were Bush Sr. and Bill Clinton the same when they were President.

Tick, Tock, Tick Tock.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 06:10 AM
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18. GHWB is an even bigger crook than Fearless Leader
Edited on Mon May-15-06 06:12 AM by formercia
He's just sneakier at hiding his motives. I've had personal dealings with them and I can assure you that they are a crime family in the worse sense. Think of the Mafia with the US military as their hit squad.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 03:33 PM
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20. Hey former....
I knew you'd crawl out of the woodwork when GHWB was mentioned. LTNS! Hope all is well.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 05:01 PM
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22. lol---poppy gets my goat
He won't pick on someone that fights back.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 10:17 AM
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9. Tell 'em this: "If both parties are the same, try voting Democratic
next time. Why not?"

Observe their reply closely. ;)
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 10:26 AM
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10. You will learn much by researching the Council On Foreign Relations.
Very sound advice...
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One Honest Guy Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 12:49 PM
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12. But they ARE in many ways. Kind of like dumb and dumber.
Although, corrupt would be a more appropriate adjective.
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lwcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 01:31 PM
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14. Arsenic and sugar will both kill you, but there's a big difference
President Gore made this point extremely well last night: http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/05/14.html#a8280

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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 02:30 PM
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16. I have learned that thos who know the least
(and do the least) scream the loudest and proudly parade their ignorance in public.

Julie
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 07:54 PM
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17. My stock response: "Okay, then you won't mind voting for MY party!"
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Jai4WKC08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 03:51 PM
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21. "Black helicopter" loon
A shame he (or she) is poisoning young minds, but there are a lot of loonies out there. Kids need to learn to deal with them.
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mim Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 04:56 PM
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23. You never know what someone will say
This boggles the mind! So this guy is against democracy and any kind of gay rights, but he also sees the fraud of the Downing Street Memo? And all these sexual accusations, Skull and Bones, and the Bohemian Grove that both rules the world and gave birth to the Manhattan Project? This guy makes the Republicans in Congress seem sane and sober.

So now someone on the right is peddling this they're-all-the-same nonsense. Back in 2000 we heard this mostly on the left: that there's no difference between Bush and Gore. So we got a president who out-reactionaries Reagan, and who is easily the worst president in the history of our country. If he's worse than Reagan, GHWB, Nixon, Ford, Eisenhower, Hoover, Coolidge, Harding, Taft et al., how can there be no difference between him and any Democrat?

I'm not really concerned about some conspiracy-monger on the rt-wing lunatic fringe, someone so far to the right of GWB that he considers GWB arch-liberal. What I am concerned about is those on the left who take a similarly dismissive attitude toward all politicians in both major parties. Those who haven't learned anything from this five-year nightmare. They probably either want to show others that they're not suckers, or they're afraid of being suckers. They remind me of the old joke:

"I'm nobody's fool."
"Maybe you can get someone to adopt you."

Or this passage from Ogden Nash:

They have such refined and delicate palates,
That they can think of no one worthy of their ballots,
And then when someone terrible gets elected,
They say, "There! that's just what I expected!"

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