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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 10:48 AM
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McCain speaks at Falwell's school. Anyone know more?
Hasn't he flip-flopped a bit (180 degrees)?
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 10:50 AM
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1. McCain's historically been the biggest flip-flopper of anyone
It's just that the Repukes coined the phrase and used it to their advantage, while our think tankers were once again left out in the cold twiddling their thumbs for not thinking ahead.
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 10:54 AM
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2. Flip-Flop? The Republicans have used that term on Democrats since Carter.
Every Democrat. But they didn't copyright the term. And Bush has been the master flip-flopper of all time. Listen to anything he said while running in 2000 and compare with what he did.
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Donkeykick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 10:58 AM
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3. I used to like McCain,
but now it looks like he is hanging out with the wrong people. Oh well. He makes his bed, he can sleep in it as far as I'm concerned!
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 11:24 AM
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10. Never have, never will.
Not a SINGLE repuke.

NONE.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 11:27 AM
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11. Same here, I switched to Republican in 2000 to vote for
McCain in the primaries and would probably have voted for him in the general if he had won. Since then he has shown his true colors he is willing to pander to anybody to just get elected. Sad thing is there are many people that haven't seen him for the asshole he is and would still vote for him in 2008.
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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 11:00 AM
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4. Oh, he spoke?
I thought he was just inside the podium during Falwell's speech ala Cadet Mahoney in Police Academy.
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 11:07 AM
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6. Bwaaa! Great reference! nt
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subterranean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 11:01 AM
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5. John McCain...he's such a maverick!
You never know who he'll pander to next!
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jjmalonejr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 11:37 AM
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13. That's a great joke!
I like it, thanks.
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subterranean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 12:33 PM
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14. Did you catch Stephen Colbert's dig at McCain
at the WH correspondents' dinner?

"John McCain. What a maverick. Somebody find out what fork he used on his salad, because I guarantee you it wasn't a salad fork. He could have used a spoon. There's no predicting him. So wonderful to see you coming back into the Republican fold. I have a summer house in South Carolina; look me up when you go to speak at Bob Jones University. So glad you've seen the light."

Funnier when Colbert said it, of course.
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 11:09 AM
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7. Flip flopping
and fear mongering with a hefty dose of ass kissing thrown in.
He's such a 'maverick'.
:sarcasm:

From last night's reception-

“We must win. We must win. We must win,” McCain said. “We must stay the course.”

He said the United States cannot afford to back away from the insurgents.

“They want to drive us out of Iraq and follow us here,” he said.

http://www.newsadvance.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=LNA%2FMGArticle%2FLNA_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1137836042274&path=!news!archive


Boston Globe article (pre-speech)

''He's obviously going down to kiss ring," said Larry Sabato, a political science professor at the University of Virginia.

<snip>

And in a New York Times opinion article published on Sunday, Falwell wrote that he simply wanted his students to learn from McCain. Inviting the senator to campus, he said, was neither an endorsement nor ''an effort to repair a relationship damaged during the 2000 Republican primary."

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/05/13/analysts_say_mccain_wooing_religious_right/

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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 11:18 AM
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8. It's pretty simple to explain this
Political parties are basically run by the state organizations. All those people in funny hats at the conventions are state operatives. They determine the agenda and who gets support to run for office.

The deal here is that since 1980 the Repug state organizations have been increasingly taken over by the lunatic rapture right. I don't think you'd find many state Repug organizations which are not basically a totally fundementalist Christian organization. This is true in Blue states as well as Red.

McCain knows that to get party support for a 2008 presidential bid, he's going to have to pander to these lunatics. So that's precisely what he is doing. He does it because he has no other choice if he wants to run as a Republican.

True Republicans (in the Eisenhower vein) are basically gone in the local parties. I think that a safe bet would be that some Republican moderate runs as an independant in 2008.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 11:23 AM
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9. Hey - John Dean's visit must have WORKED!
Hey - I'm an asshole, too!

No - I'M the bigger asshole!

No ME!

No MEEEE!

In a perverted way, this is very entertaining.

Can't be out-gunned as an panderer I guess.

Trouble is, OUR guy apologized and I believe HIM.

McCain is just showing his true opportunistic racist bigoted self for all to see.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 11:32 AM
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12. McCain speaks at Falwell U., Dean speaks to Robertson's TV boobs
A lot of pandering to people that believe Noah had T-Rex inside his Ark.
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