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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 09:19 AM
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Despite *'s plummeting support, the tyranny grows worse
Even though Il Dunce's is the lamest of ducks, he continues to rule like he has a mandate, and not the ones at Watergate. Read these two new accounts, remember there's nothing happening to stop it, and explain to me how we're ever going to return to democracy:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-05-10-nsa_x.htm?csp=34

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/domestic_spying;_ylt=AltzCvZmCXzQ.QsFg5wYT2Os0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--

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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 09:21 AM
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1. It's like peelling away the skin and there's something rotten inside!
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 09:21 AM
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2. Despite or Because of?
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 09:25 AM
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4. Bingo.
:thumbsup:
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 09:23 AM
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3. I see it more as moving his chess pieces to protect his
power base. The fact that he's doing it at the expense of the Constitution should tell you that a coup definitely occurred in 2001.
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 09:30 AM
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5. This is pretty cynical but I can't help it
Bush is acting like a man that is sure he is going to retain power in the congress and I think that he knows that the fix is in, and he has noting to worry about in the elections.
But you asked how we can return to democracy and the only way I see to do it is a massive general strike that shuts down Washington until the congress passes real election reform measures that make it possible for a third party to run, and it not possible for anyone to be elected with less than a majority.
It is the only way i can see it happening.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 09:38 AM
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6. I agree. But I somehow don't think you went far enough
bush** is acting like a man who thinks he's going to retain power himself.
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 09:43 AM
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7. Power is largely behind the scenes anyway
Does it really matter what figurehead is called president as long as he toes the mark?
It would be too obvious for him to just seize power as a dictator, but anything could happen I suppose.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 10:24 AM
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12. I dunno about that
Fixing the elections to place Jeb on the throne and keep the GOP control of the house, senate, courts, and media would be a lot less suspicious. If he actually stays in office past Jan 09, people might get off of their couches and do something.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 10:33 AM
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14. Right, they've do so much thus far. I would have thought if
some lying bastard made a nation accessories in his wholes scale slaughter of a defenseless and innocent civilian population, not to mention bombing their infrastructure to pieces, that would be enough to send people into the streets.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 10:28 AM
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13. That's the way I see it too.
He has gottne to the point where he doesn't answer to the people at all - no press conferences, no mention of Iraq, no mention of treasongate, no mention of the economy, or Katrina - all he does is vacation and attend fundraisers. He doesn't do any work, period - like he knows that it's all predestined and will work out fine for him and the people he answers to.

I would love to see a general strike - I'd be the first one to stay home from work. Too bad the powerful have us fighting each other for crumbs
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fearthem Donating Member (573 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 10:01 AM
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8. His mandate is GOP design to get rich off the backs of middle America...
set himself, family, friends up not to have to pay their fair share of taxes.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 10:04 AM
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9. Is there a name for...
that last moment when the
swirling vortex of old bathwater
goes down the drain.

glug glug glug

whatever it's called... it's happening.
faster faster
the republican crime spree is coming apart
and going down.

Gloriously.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 10:05 AM
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10. These crooks aren't going to just give back what they've stolen
I've said it over and over. I hope against hope that it won't come to violence, but these crooks aren't going to just shrug, say "Whoops, you caught us!" and then hand back their stolen swag. We're probably going to have to break their fat little blood-stained fingers to pry their hands off the levers of power.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 10:23 AM
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11. I agree with you
We are quickly comming to a head... and the cold civil war is liable to go hot. In fact, I suspect the whole shciavo fiasco was an attempt to get the shooting war going

Why? Shooting war, civil unress, suspention of elections and Consittuion, easy
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 10:36 AM
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15. I think it's a sign of their invulnerability
Fitz and the 06 elections are the only slim chances they'll be held to account. Otherwise, they've already gotten away with much. Even if they lose in 06...even if some of them have to depart office early....they've really accomplished a tremendous amount for corporate america and the neocons. They are heroes in the boardrooms. What's a little disgrace in the face of uncounted billions of dollars funneled to buddies and supporters?

That's why I call for impeachment at the very least. Jailtime would be more appropriate...but that means Fitz or significant victory across the board in 2006 followed by full accounting of lies and illegal activities.
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