WTF: Dems are being shamed into not impeaching this bastard

[lwcon]

Warning -- profanity, and lots of it: http://vastleft.blogspot.com/2006/05/sometimes-you-just-gotta-say-what-fuck.html

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[lwcon]

4. So...

Why should we be cowed into promising not to impeach, which is clearly what the GOP and media machine are pressing us to do?

[katinmn]

5. hmm. It really depends on what kind of Dems win

if they win (it is theirs to lose).

If we have mostly moderate Dems and Repugs, things will not change much.

I will only support Dems who speak out NOW, who vote against the fascist in the White House NOW, not the ones who are saving up their bravery for the future.

[lwcon]

13. What? You want Dem candidates to talk like progressives!?

I guess we're supposed to tell you to STFU. :v)

I wish there were more Russ Feingolds and Al Gores out there.

I'll reserve my vote in the '08 primary for someone like them, but most any Democrat can count on my support (unless his name is Joe Lieberman). In the face of this disastrous Republican hegemony, I can't see how at the end of the day we can afford to be purists.

But I salute your call for Dems to stand tall right now. Being lukewarm Republicans is not going to get us elected, and it's not going to help us govern.

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[xultar]

2. Nope. Dems aren't talkng about it because it isn't central to winning.

They need to win then impeach. You can't run on an impeachment platform. That shit ain't gonna play.

[rodeodance]

6. You are right. People are looking for solutions for our problems-health,

eviroment, energy.

[lwcon]

8. Slow down: I'm not saying it should be the platform...

... but the GOP spin doctors are trying to make us pledge not to impeach, like it's *our* dark business to hide from.

We should absolutely be able to say "there's been a lot of questionable stuff happening on Bush's watch, and the failure by the GOP Congress to properly investigate has been very bad for America."

We shouldn't run *on* impeachment, but we're being snookered into running away from it being an option.

If Bush won't take nuclear war with Iran off the table, why should we have to take impeachment of a corrupt President off the table?

They're the guys who have screwed everything up. It's not our job to promise to let it slide.

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[magnolia]

20. Exactly.....

It would be irresponsible to buy an expensive car before getting a great job. Get the job first...then....

What I've seen is that dems are not allowing themselves to be sucked into that conversation. They need to focus on having a plan for all the issues that concern Americans and winning seats. That's what they are doing.

[wtmusic]

3. Good

With an approval of 31% and sinking like a rock? The impeachment issue could work to our ADVANTAGE.

[babylonsister]

7. We won't have the votes until November, then I hope they're

all talking about it! :patriot:

[lwcon]

9. Fine by me

We just need to be careful about falling into another GOP issue-framing track in the meantime, where promising not to impeach is becoming a litmus test of being a reasonable candidate.

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[babylonsister]

12. I think everyone is holding their cards close to their vests for the

time being, and I'm glad. God knows this man has earned impeachment, so we'll see how it shakes out after November. By then, repugs may also be on board depending on how much of a failure dimson is over the summer.

[lwcon]

14. I hear you

But does anyone else see the trap game that's going on, where it's not enough to hold the cards close, but that you're supposed to go on record saying that impeaching this fine War President would be bad for the country?

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[babylonsister]

15. Yes, I'm hearing it from the repugs, one of their 'talking points'

against Dems. At this point, imo it doesn't matter. Let them grasp at straws. If that's all they have, it's not much, especially considering the polls and the currently mentality of the general public.

[lwcon]

16. Again, OK by me, as long as we don't take the bait...

... by promising not to go after the poor widdle President.
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[dweller]

10. Congress currently at 26% approval rating

Impeachment should not be their main concern, replacement should.

and that hold for both sides.

dp

[katinmn]

19. Yes! Given a choice, I will vote for new voices

The entrenched ones have screwed things up too much.

[Efilroft Sul]

11. Repubs weren't shamed into recalling Grey Davis when he was down.

So I don't see why Democrats should be ashamed about impeaching Bush.

With that said, I hope the DNC is providing support to candidates who have quietly promised to impeach Bush and Cheney. Candidates don't have to make this promise public; they just have to follow through on their promise when the Democrats take back control in the House. In the meantime, our candidates must campaign on issues that bring hope to the public and resolve major issues like bringing the troops home, balancing the budget, health care, etc.

Oh, there are so many issues where Democrats can do better.

[Joe Fields]

17. One problem with the article...not enough expletives to suit me!

[lwcon]

18. Sorry

I'll go wash my mouth out with dirt.

I'm thinking of making the f--kfest a regular feature. My mom will be so proud.

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