If Dean wins, I believe he may choose Clark

[CTLawGuy]

as VP in order to bring unity to our party. Those who worry about dean's electability, do you think with Clark at Dean's side, he will have a better chance? Will the party come together for this ticket?

[JI7]

1. didn't dean ask clark to be vp already ?

?

[CTLawGuy]

2. who knows...

its not a big deal for me.

All i know is Dean has a powerful grassroots and so does clark. So put them together.

[TLM]

33. Nope...but he did tell Clark he was on Dean's short list

[WiseMen]

3. Clark has effectively accused Dean of Lying! He said Dean can't Win!

What more does he have to say to stop the speculation
that he will join the ticket.

[Dagaz]

5. Wierder things have happened

I doubt that Clark will be the pick but Reagan picked Bush after he called Reagan's economic plan Voodoo economics. I still think Bob Graham is the pick but if Edwards does well then he could get in consideration.

[TLM]

34. Exactly, i mean we know Clark;s goal is personal power.

Clark wants more influence he can sell... so there's no way he'd take th VP slot. CLark wants power, and he doesn;t give a shit about the party or bringing people together.

So of course he wouldn't accept any offer to be VP.

[bain_sidhe]

4. Clark will refuse

If you want Clark's credentials on the ticket, vote for Clark. You won't get them by voting for Dean.

(Sorry to be short with you. I'm just really sick of seeing this suggested as a way to cover Dean's butt on foreign policy. As I've said elsewhere, it's gotten to the point that my head explodes every time I see it, and I'm getting tired of cleaning off my monitor.)

[CTLawGuy]

6. well of course he wont accept

everyone would say he was not really running for president but trolling for a VP bid. Once the GE comes along its a different ballgame.

The last think clark wants is to be pegged as a VP in the primary.

So of course he'll say he'll never be VP.

Remember George HW called Reaganomics Voodoo economics before he signed on to the ticket.

[bain_sidhe]

7. again

If you want Clark's credentials on the ticket, vote for Clark. You won't get them by voting for Dean.

[CTLawGuy]

8. no I want Dean's credentials...

he may pick clark to unify the party, not because clark is next incarnation of The Beatles... thats all i'm saying.

[bain_sidhe]

9. That's cool.

If you want Dean's credentials, then you've certainly made the right choice about who to support in the primary.

See ya on the flip side (in the general election), right?

[Gloria]

10. Let's unify the party now and get Clark in there.....

Dean is dividing this Dem more and more each day.....

[TLM]

36. CLark wants power... that's all

Sure it might help the party and bring two sides together... but Clark doesn't care about that. Clark does not care about the party, he only cares about his own power and glory. His ego is all that matters to him.

So he will not take the VP slot as his supporters keep saying.

[KaraokeKarlton]

15. Dean doesn't need Clark, and Clark isn't even qualified anyhow

Clark isn't qualified to be president and he's not even qualified to be VP. He's qualified to run the military and that's it. That's all he brings to the table and the military and national defense is the least of people's worries when their kids schools aren't adequately funded, they're losing their jobs and their expenses are skyrocketing. Clark's only hope of getting on the ticket is as someone's VP. If he thinks he's too good for that when he's not even qualified for it in the first place he can go suck an egg, in my opinion. We don't need an egomaniac in control of even the military, thank you very much.

[oasis]

16. Clark will have a host of ex-Clinton staffers to help him muddle through.

doncha worry none. ;-)

[KaraokeKarlton]

17. No he won't

Most of them are already working for Dean. :D

[oasis]

18. Most of them? like who? Blumenthal, Panetta, Begala, Joe Lockhart??

[KaraokeKarlton]

20. Here's a link to just a few of them from one announcement

http://www.politicsnh.com/press_releases/2003/May/5_22dean.shtml

Notice how Dean has prior Clinton White House staffers in the areas of defense, race relations, social programs, economics and one of Clinton's advisors on foreign policy. There are more than these, as well.

[oasis]

29. Thanks for the link. Echeveste is an up and coming, hard working Dem.

[dansolo]

30. Somehow that isn't very comforting n/t

[deananonymous]

31. And Dean is.....

Dean is from the great state of Vermont, population 613,090 and 96.8 percent white, this is not America, this barely represents a large city. Is your local mayor ready to be president? If you think education is going to decide the next election then you sir might need more education.

[mikehiggins]

11. THis is getting to sound like the "Hillary is running" stories

Hillary is NOT running, as she has said about a dozen times, and Clark will NOT be Dean's running mate IF Dean gets the nod as the Democratic nominee. Clark is NOT running for vice president and it is NOT likely that Dean would even ask him after the last go around between the two over an earlier discussion that they had.

The operative word in this is NOT.

If Clark is not the nominee he will go back to work after the election, possibly teach, and then try to get a job as a golf pro on a course somewhere. That's what he's said anyway, and there is no reason to doubt him.

We will have Clark OR Dean but NOT both running on the ticket in November.

That is all.

[drfemoe]

12. I'm not concerned

about Dean's electability, unless he chooses Clark for VP. Clark has never been elected to any public office. In fact he has stated that, if he hadn't gotten canned from the Army, he would still be serving in the military. IOW, being president is his second choice.

With Clark anywhere near the ticket, I am afraid to think about what 'classified' information would suddenly become 'unclassified'.

I want no part of Wesley Clark.

[deananonymous]

35. Well maybe Dean should open the records.

then we can see what 'classified' information would suddenly become 'unclassified'.

[TLM]

37. His records are open.

His correspondence and memos are not open to the public, but are being reviewed by a judge.

And I assume when the judge says there's nothing out of the ordinary in there... the calls will ring out that the judge is crooked too.

But in the mean time, please provide a link to information on where I can view the correspondence and memos of the other candidates?

[Name removed]

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[Skwmom]

19. Exactly, anyone associated with Dean once

the truth is exposed in the general election will be painted with the same brush.

[bitchkitty]

25. The winning brush?

That's okay by me! ;)

[RetroLounge]

28. The only thing being painted is the White House Residence

once Dean moves in.

And that's Howard Brush Dean, by the way...

[caledesi]

14. Hey, stranger things have happened. (Re: Clark as VP)

Remember when Bush I called Reagan on his "voodoo economics"..and yes, he became the VP.

Go figure.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

21. I bet there's no taking bets here at DU, huh?

Boy, I wished there was.

[maxanne]

22. no

many people believe that Clark isn't part of our party. His last minute change of party seems more opportunistic than genuine.

Many of us remain underimpressed by the General.

[deananonymous]

32. And Dean is part of the Democratic party?

"And nobody has even attempted to answer my question about why was the Progressive party able to poll at ten percent in the Dean's last gubernatorial race and the Progressive party even also holds US representative seat in Vermont. So much for Dean strengthening the Democratic Party in Vermont or the rest of the US, maybe this is reason the DLC is so worried about Dean. Have you guys looked at the Progressive Party website and seen what issues are important to their base? Do you guys just ignore this stuff or do you just not care?"

Here is the website for the progressive party - http://www.progressiveparty.org/

The above is from this article - http://www.isreview.org/issues/32/dean.shtml

[retyred]

23. This is amazing

Why is it so hard for dean supporters to accept the fact that Clark doesn't want to be dean's or any body's VP, He wants to be President and will be if America really wants to get rid of bush.

If you really want Clark on the ticket with dean, I would suggest you write the Clark campaign and ask nicely for dean to please be a consideration of Clark's VP decision, but please don't hold your breath.

As much as I love the man, considering dean for anywhere within his administration for me would be the one thing he could do to disappoint me.

But hold onto your dreams.



retyred in fla
“good night Paul, wherever you are”
So I read this book

[floridaguy]

24. Are you really worried about his "elecatability"?

If you are truly worried about Dean's electability, and you've made the assumption that Clark would help his chances, a little deductive reasoning is in order.

A - Dean has an "electability" problem

B - Clark is very "electable"

C - Nominate the candidate who CAN beat Bush - Wesley Clark

Happy Holidays to all DUers!

[Demobrat]

26. I don't know much about General Zinni, but

I sure have been hearing his name in connection with Dean an awful lot lately. Clark is not the only retired general in the world, and there are some with a lot less baggage. So while I wouldn't be surprised if Dean's VP did turn out to be a general, Clark is definately not the only round peg that can fit that particular hole.

[Leilani]

38. I Know a lot about Zinni

And there is no way that Marine would run with a guy who skied in Aspen while he was in Vietnam.

So many here hate the military, but want to use them as Veeps for some unelectable loser.

[artr2]

27. Darboy, forget about Clark

Dean has said that he is going to shore up his foreign policy team with the selection of his VP. I hope it is Bob Graham. Senate intelligence committee, experience as a Governor and senator. I don't think he could make a better choice