Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Village Voice: Republican operative running Sharpton's campaign

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
Carl Spackler Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 02:43 PM
Original message
Village Voice: Republican operative running Sharpton's campaign
Edited on Tue Feb-03-04 03:24 PM by Carl Spackler
"Roger Stone, the longtime Republican dirty-tricks operative who led the mob that shut down the Miami-Dade County recount and helped make George W. Bush president in 2000, is financing, staffing, and orchestrating the presidential campaign of Reverend Al Sharpton."

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0405/barrett.php



edited to comply with regulations 977a (excessive capitalization) and 1044f (extraneous punctuation)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
cjbuchanan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 02:51 PM
Response to Original message
1. More at Salon
http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2004/02/03/sharpton/index.html

Whatever excuse each man offers to justify their embarrassing embrace, Stone certainly serves the Republican party by sustaining and promoting Sharpton. Ever since the reverend announced his candidacy, right-leaning commentators have gleefully predictedthat he will pose "a major threat" to the Democrats in 2004. For Sharpton himself, the attraction of endless publicity (and luxurious lodging) remains irresistible, along with the opportunity to supplant his former mentor Jesse Jackson as black America's political spokesman. The Democratic Party, whose institutions and candidates he has consistently undermined for many years, is merely a convenient vehicle for his advancement.


The only surprising aspect of the Sharpton-Stone relationship is how brazenly the pair now display their bipartisan dalliance. While Stone quietly began providing advice to the reverend almost a year ago, his name surfaced last October when he showed up at a Sharpton birthday party/fundraiser in New York. That was not long after Sharpton campaign manager Frank Watkins, a former Jackson aide, abruptly resigned. In place of Watkins, Stone installed Charles Halloran -- a white, Kentucky-born political operative whose ties with the Republican consultant were cemented in 2002, when they worked together on billionaire Thomas Golisano's quixotic Independent campaign for New York governor. Although he is a career Democrat, Halloran has become professionally dependent on his connections with Stone. Last winter, his Republican patron obtained a lucrative job for Halloran in Bermuda, running the conservative United Bermuda Party parliamentary campaign.


Appointing the campaign manager only suggests how pervasively Stone influences Sharpton. His current role is even more crucial. An extraordinary investigative report by Wayne Barrett in the Village Voice describes in detail how Stone controls the campaign's staffing, financing, and often its message. In addition to placing half a dozen of his associates in the Sharpton camp, Stone has managed the successful solicitation of enough contributions to make Sharpton 2004 eligible for federal matching funds.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 02:55 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. if true, this is really disgusting
Stone led the FL 2000 Miami-Dade vote count/recount shutdown??????
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:12 PM
Response to Reply #1
6. "A GOP trickster rents Al Sharpton"
is the title of this Salon piece, but I think the real title is "Al Sharpton rents GOP trickster."

In any event, Stone's got a lot of work to do raising money. There's what, five thousand dollars and change in the account, if I read the piece in Village Voice correctly.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ugarte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:15 PM
Response to Reply #1
7. Who's using who?
Rev. Al is just playing his cards right now. He'll jettison Stone as soon as the Demos give him some love and a seat at the table. Come convention time, Rev. Al will be on board.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:17 PM
Response to Reply #7
9. Yep. Glad somebody understands who's
zoomin' who.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:00 PM
Response to Original message
3. The whole idea was to help take down Dean
Stone is the one who advised Sharpton to ambush Dean on the lack of African-Americans in his cabinet. It was a valid question but framed as a sucker punch.

I completely lost respect for Al after learning Stone was on his team. However, I still respect the Reverend's issues.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gWbush is Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:03 PM
Response to Original message
4. WOW
I think I just lost ALL my respect for Al Sharpton.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:05 PM
Response to Original message
5. Not suprising
Rev Al is all about Rev Al. In other words, he is a huckster.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BigDaddyLove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:33 PM
Response to Reply #5
19. He may be a huckster........
but he's been fearless when it comes to speaking the truth about the Bush Administration.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:16 PM
Response to Original message
8. There were people right here...
Edited on Tue Feb-03-04 03:17 PM by LoZoccolo
...propping up Sharpton's two non-sensical attacks on Dean: the Confederate flag (if you want to argue with me read what Dean said first, and post it all here as proof that you read it please otherwise leave me alone), and the "no minorities on your cabinet" (there were only six slots available, extremely low population of african- and latino-americans, plus they were offered but VT cabinet posts are not that attractive jobs - again, post the population statistics to prove to me you know what you're talking about before you go on about this).

So the path might have gone from Roger Stone to posters here. Good job!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gottaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:34 PM
Response to Reply #8
22. If I caucus for Dean
It will be inspite of his statement about wanting to be the candidate for guys with confederate flags in their pickups, and his gross insensitivity in the face of righteous outrage, shock, and pain. Not because of it. I will look at his explanations of his statements, the others stances he's taking, and the apology he issued.

One thing I will consider is whether I want to empower the large faction of his supporters who seem all to willing to forget that their candidate issued an apology, that he admitted that he had said something that warranted an apology.

Five days left to caucus.

--No. You just reminded me of why I cannot support Howard Dean. Thank you.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:54 PM
Response to Reply #22
24. You didn't post the quote like I told you to.
I think you still have time to edit it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gottaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 04:15 PM
Response to Reply #24
28. yeaaarghhh
You can always edit your sig to add that. I don't think the orthography needs to be IPA perfect. People will know what you mean.

The neo-condederacy and white supremecy movements are not to be taken lightly.

I am very well aware of what Dean said, to the Des Moines Register, and in his stump speeches; what his basic argument was; how he wanted that to be interpreted; what his various positions on the confederate flag have been; how he handled criticism of his statements; and what he said by way of apology.

Giving Howard Dean the benefit of the doubt is one thing. In fact I had been quite willing to accept his apology, and see the positive things he was talking about as reasons to vote for him.

However, the fact that many of his supporters continue to deny that he said something offensive and apologized for it shows me that his talk about racism has not been effective. If his most ardent followers aren't getting the message, what hope is there for the rest of the country?

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 04:39 PM
Response to Reply #28
33. You wouldn't be able to argue like that if you followed my instructions.
Which is why you won't do it. I gave you specific instructions - post the quote before you criticize it, and now, post the apology. And there was a reason for it - you're tapdancing around both and your whole argument rests on unfair insinuations. You can make it sound like he said anything when he did that. I invite everyone here to ignore it until you at least substantiate something.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:58 PM
Response to Reply #22
25. Tell you what...
...now you can go find his apology and post it here too.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:19 PM
Response to Original message
10. And then there was one.
No longer will we see qualifiers (and Al) after statements about Kucinich's principled stances.

Sad. Why would he get in bed with republicans? Why?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Carl Spackler Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:23 PM
Response to Reply #10
14. I would speculate that it is because they're paying for the room
which is very too bad because I Sharpton's rhetorical talents could be so beneficial.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
stopthegop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:23 PM
Response to Reply #10
15. Sharpton isn't running for President..
he's running for attention...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:19 PM
Response to Original message
11. uhggg
:(
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:21 PM
Response to Original message
12. That having been said...
...I'd edit your subject before this thread gets locked for being overly capitalized and/or punctuated because I think this is an important thread.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:21 PM
Response to Original message
13. I trust the Voice.
A truly liberal paper that isn't afraid of the label.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:26 PM
Response to Original message
16. Wayne Barrett
is one of the last true investigative journalists left .
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:28 PM
Response to Original message
17. this is going to severely hurt
Sharpton's seventh place standing in national polls. :)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 04:00 PM
Response to Reply #17
27. and all African-American voters
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 09:42 AM
Response to Reply #27
47. African American voters haven't really embraced his canadidcy
He got 10% of the vote in SC, a state were African-Americans make up about 1/2 of the Democratic primary voters.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
messiah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:29 PM
Response to Original message
18. Who cares
as long as he is bringing up legitimate issues he's on my side.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:33 PM
Response to Original message
20. Wow. I never thought Sharpton would stoop so low...
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Carl Spackler Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:34 PM
Response to Original message
21. In defense
Is this morally different than taking support from Monsanto or Nestle or other corporations with agendas equally or more offensive than the GOP? If so why? Was this maybe Al's only perceived way to get his issues in front of people (which he has, indeed, done)?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Westegg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 04:37 PM
Response to Reply #21
32. ARE YOU SERIOUS????
THAT'S your defense? That's your argument? That's IT? That all you've got?

Oh sweet Jesus, take me now.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 05:42 PM
Response to Reply #21
39. I agree. I have nothing against Sharpton for this but I am concerned
because Sharpton's run was helped by operatives who were interested in splitting the anti-war vote and preventing certain candidates from making a decent showing. World Socialist had an interesting article and analysis about this recently.

Go to Al's web-site. Impressive speaker but very, very light on issues and position papers. Al himself hasn't taken his run seriously from the very start. Same thing with Carol Mosely-Braun.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 12:56 AM
Response to Reply #21
46. Tell that to the disenfranchised voters in Florida
Al is a hypocrite of the worst kind. How can he denounce the Democrats for taking the African-American vote for granted when he is working with one of the very people who worked to deny them their votes in 2000?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:46 PM
Response to Original message
23. Sorry, no pics (:-(
Dole adviser quits after reports of group sex ads

WASHINGTON -- An unpaid consultant to Republican presidential candidate Bob Dole was forced to resign Thursday after two supermarket tabloids reported he and his wife had advertised for group sex.

Consultant Roger Stone was a member of Dole's "(Bill) Clinton accountability team," whose job was to point out inconsistencies in the U.S. president's record.

"We don't expect him to be associated with the campaign any further," said Dole campaign spokesman Nelson Warfield.

The National Enquirer and the Star said Stone used the Internet and a "swingers' magazine" called Swing Fever to find couples or single men to join him and his wife for group sex.

The latest edition of the Star said Stone and his wife, Nydia, a former model, used a Washington post office box number for an advertisement in several swingers' magazines. The National Enquirer said the couple posted an advertisement on their Internet web site with a revealing picture of Nydia Stone.

(12 SEP 96)
http://www.canoe.ca/NewsArchiveSep96/world_digest_sep12.html


Nydia, ah Nydia, the Tattooed Lady.

Or maybe that was Lydia?


:evilgrin:

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 04:35 PM
Response to Reply #23
31. Republican Family Values
all over for ya
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Timahoe Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:58 PM
Response to Original message
26. Roger Stone a Republican operative is a stretch
He's more like a hired mercenary. He'll work for whoever pays him.

http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/m0ICQ/2002_Nov_11/94386525/p1/article.jhtml
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 04:48 PM
Response to Reply #26
35. Yes but who's...
...paying him in this instance?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Timahoe Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 05:13 PM
Response to Reply #35
38. That's the $64,000 question
because whoever is behind Stone had a primary agenda of taking out Dean in the primaries.

Looks like mission was accomplished.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 04:33 PM
Response to Original message
29. This sounds like a smear. Al has been fearless in pounding BushCo
And as to his taking a shot at Dean, so what? He took a shot at Kucinich, too. That's why they're called 'competitors'. Is Dean supposed to be off-limits?

If the GOP think they're using Al and are paying his expenses, then wow are they going to be easy to beat in November. Because the pummelling Al's been giving BushCo is exactly what our involuntarily-funneled-through-the-GOP money should be paying for.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 03:10 PM
Response to Reply #29
43. Since when is digging up the truth a smear?
I suppose we should expect this from a right-wing rag like the Village Voice.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 04:02 PM
Response to Reply #43
48. That it came from the Voice is not at all probative.
Don't you know that?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 04:34 PM
Response to Original message
30. hope this isn't true
Edited on Tue Feb-03-04 04:35 PM by maddezmom
:(
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 04:39 PM
Response to Reply #30
34. You can't believe anything you read from the right wing corparate media
;)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 04:58 PM
Response to Original message
36. This isn't the first time I've heard about this.
I wasn't going to post anything until there was more about it.

Too bad CMB is already out of the race. CMB was an excellent voice for African-Americans in the political process. She made a couple of mistakes, but she NEVER would have stooped this low.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 05:01 PM
Response to Original message
37. according to the NY Post, Rev. Al is also paying himself . . .
handsomely from his campaign funds . . .

Donors' $$ pays Rev. Al
by Brian Blomquist
February 3, 2004

WASHINGTON - The Rev. Al Sharpton paid himself $31,243 from his nearly broke presidential campaign and he's owed another $105,800 in unspecified reimbursement expenses, according to his latest campaign finance report.

(snip)

The reports of the big bucks paid and owed to Sharpton comes on the heels of earlier disclosures in The Post that the campaign had paid thousands of dollars for swank high-priced hotels around the country, including the Four Seasons in Los Angeles, the Phoenician in Arizona, the Mansion on Turtle Creek in Dallas, and the Mandarin Oriental and The Delano hotel in Miami.

- more . . .

http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/17185.htm

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 06:55 PM
Response to Original message
40. I give up
I have supported and defended this man forever on DU. I signed up at his web site and never got so much as an e-mail. Now I know his only purpose was to "Stop Dean". That's it for me, no more benefit of the doubt for Rev Al.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 11:15 PM
Response to Original message
41. Interesting timing....this coming out just days before the S.C. primary.
Edited on Tue Feb-03-04 11:20 PM by Dover
It could certainly help consolidate the black vote behind Kerry...

Damning to Sharpton, nonetheless.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 07:36 AM
Response to Reply #41
42. Village Voice = Right Wing News Source?
This isn't a paper that has a history of a right wing agenda.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 03:35 PM
Response to Original message
44. OMG. I knew something was up with Sharpton.
:eyes: @#**&^$

Yea, tell me the RW wasn't afraid of Dean. They had Democrats helping with the take down...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 10:38 PM
Response to Reply #44
45. It might just be that the Republicans realize that sharing a stage with
Edited on Wed Feb-04-04 10:38 PM by Freddie Stubbs
someone like Al Sharpton diminishes the stature of all of the Democratic candidates.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 19th 2024, 03:13 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC