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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 08:33 PM
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Iran Could Produce Nuclear Bomb in 16 Days, U.S. Says
April 12 (Bloomberg) -- Iran, defying United Nations Security Council demands to halt its nuclear program, may be capable of making a nuclear bomb within 16 days, a U.S. State Department official said.

Iran will move to ``industrial scale'' uranium enrichment involving 54,000 centrifuges at its Natanz plant, the Associated Press quoted deputy nuclear chief Mohammad Saeedi as telling state-run television today.

``Using those 50,000 centrifuges they could produce enough highly enriched uranium for a nuclear weapon in 16 days,'' Stephen Rademaker, U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for International Security and Nonproliferation, told reporters today in Moscow.

http://www.conservativeunderground.com/forum/showthread...

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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 08:34 PM
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1. The U.S. produced a flattened Baghdad in less than that, much
less in fact.... with so say... "conventional weapons".
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clydefrand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 08:34 PM
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2. Should we start yelling, May Day, May Day!
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 08:36 PM
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3. Well, Chief, would you believe a really tiny bomb? How about a
really really really tiny bomb?
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 08:43 PM
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7. LOL I loved that show It was pure cheeze, that's what I loved
This calls for "The Cone of Silence" :)

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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 08:47 PM
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8. ah, a kindred spirit, in humor and memories.
What was the robot's name? Herman?
Actually, I watched it because of 99.

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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 08:56 PM
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13. "I watched it because of 99"
Edited on Wed Apr-12-06 08:59 PM by LibertyorDeath
:) say no more :)


under that buttoned down blouse lay the heart of a Tigress.

For fun

http://www.hmss.com/otherspies/getsmart /

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Shipwack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 09:29 PM
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16. I believe the robot's name was...
"Hymie"...

/quick search because I have no life...

yep...
"Richard Gautier as Hymie the Robot (1966-1969)"

http://www.fiftiesweb.com/tv/get-smart.htm

/end quick search because I have no life
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 08:38 PM
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4. the pro-war progaganda machine is at it again
Edited on Wed Apr-12-06 08:44 PM by Douglas Carpenter
Fishing for a Pretext in Iran

by Juan Cole; March 18, 2006

link: http://www.zmag.org/content/print_article.cfm?itemID=99...

snip:"Supreme Jurisprudent Ali Khamenei has given a fatwa or formal religious ruling against nuclear weapons, and President Ahmadinejad at his inauguration denounced such arms and committed Iran to remaining a nonnuclear weapons state.

In fact, the Iranian regime has gone further, calling for the Middle East to be a nuclear-weapons-free zone. On Feb. 26, Ahmadinejad said:
We too demand that the Middle East be free of nuclear weapons; not only the Middle East, but the whole world should be free of nuclear weapons.
Only Israel among the states of the Middle East has the bomb, and its stockpile provoked the arms race with Iraq that in some ways led to the U.S. invasion of 2003. The U.S. has also moved nukes into the Middle East at some points, either on bases in Turkey or on submarines.

Iran is a signatory of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and has allowed the International Atomic Energy Agency to inspect and monitor its nuclear energy research program, as required by the treaty. It raised profound suspicions, however, with its one infraction against the treaty--which was to conduct some secret civilian research that it should have reported and did not, and which was discovered by inspectors. Tehran denies having military labs aiming for a bomb, and in November of 2003 the IAEA formally announced that it could find no proof of such a weapons program."

snip:"it is often alleged that since Iran harbors the desire to destroy Israel, it must not be allowed to have the bomb. Ahmadinejad has gone blue in the face denouncing the immorality of any mass extermination of innocent civilians, but has been unable to get a hearing in the English-language press. Moreover, the presidency is a very weak post in Iran, and the president is not commander of the armed forces and has no control over nuclear policy. Ahmadinejads election is not relevant to the nuclear issue, and neither is the question of whether he is, as Liz Cheney is reported to have said, a madman. Iran has not behaved in a militarily aggressive way since its 1979 revolution, having invaded no other countries, unlike Iraq, Israel or the U.S. Washington has nevertheless succeeded in depicting Iran as a rogue state"


snip"Bushs allegations about the Iranians providing improvised explosive devices to the Iraqi guerrilla insurgency are bizarre. The British military looked into charges of improvised explosive devices coming from Iran, and actually came out this past January and apologized to Tehran when no evidence pointed to Iranian government involvement. The guerrillas in Iraq are militant Sunnis who hate Shiites, and it is wholly implausible that the Iranian regime would supply bombs to the enemies of its Iraqi allies."

link to full article: http://www.zmag.org/content/print_article.cfm?itemID=99...
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And be sure to watch/listen/or read transcript of Sy Hersh's interview on Democracy Now. He pretty much says that baring unforeseen events a major attack on Iran is almost certainly going to happen in the not too distant future:

link to listen/watch/or read transcript:

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/04/12/135...

snip: "Everybody I talk to, the hawks I talk to, the neoconservatives, the people who are very tough absolutely say there's no way the U.N. is going to work, and we're just going to have to assume it doesnt in any way. Iran, by going along with the U.N., what they're really doing is rushing their nuclear program. And so, the skepticism -- there's no belief, faith here, ultimately, in this White House, in the extent of the talk, so you've got a parallel situation. The President could then say, We've explored all options. We've done it. I could add, if you want to get even more scared, some of our closest allies in this process -- we deal with the Germans, the French and the Brits -- they're secretly very worried, not only what Bush wants to do, but they're also worried that -- for example, the British Foreign Officer, Jack Straw, is vehemently against any military action, of course also nuclear action, and so is the Foreign Office, as I said, but nobody knows what will happen if Bush calls Blair. Blair's the wild card in this. He and Bush both have this sense, this messianic sense, I believe, about what they've done and what's needed to be done in the Middle East. I think Bush is every bit as committed into this world of rapture, as is the president.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 08:38 PM
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5. Iran could buy a nuclear bomb from anyone with the
ability to get them, one as could any other nation in the world.

The bush admin is so full of shit it's hard to know where to start.

This is just more disinfo to scare the sheeple.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 08:43 PM
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6. In other news . . .
Chad will begin increasing production of cow dung in eleven days.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 08:47 PM
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9. What a crock
To produce enough weapons grade uranium with those 54,000 centrifuges-of which they only have about 180 right now- would take refining TONS of enriched uranium to get enough for ONE bomb. It would take slighly over 20 pounds of weapons grade uranium for one Hiroshima sized bomb. First you have to take regular uranium and enrich it in a breeder reactor, then you have to take the tons of material and purify it down to weapons grade. Theoretically 16 days is possible but highly unlikely for years to come. Then once you have the stuff you gotta build a WORKING bomb with it-something that isn't that easily done. "Imminent mushroom clouds" MY FUCKING ASS.
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greekspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 08:50 PM
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10. 16 days...not 15, not 17, but 16. Very intersesting
I see shades of Niger Yellowcake. Here we go again, folks. More dead soldiers for more oil, more dead Iranians...the Iraqis are not enough. 16 days. 2 weeks, 2 days. ACT NOW. If they can do it in 16 days, they could probably ahve done it 16 days ago, or 16 days before that. This is crap, pure and unadulterated.
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 08:52 PM
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11. (Why are you linking to conservativeunderground?)
Eesh.
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 08:55 PM
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12. Because its a really interesting site
Edited on Wed Apr-12-06 08:56 PM by Flabbergasted
Its a true study in human stupidity!
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 08:57 PM
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14. Other experts say 10 years - seems to be a bit of a gap in the
estimates. Lets split it 5 years 8 days 2 hours 10 minutes and 13 seconds (accounting for leap year) We need precision in our guesses!
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KerryOn Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 09:14 PM
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15. The Bush propaganda Machine is.....
Edited on Wed Apr-12-06 09:15 PM by KerryOn
... working hard again.

I don't believe a word of it.

A month ago they said ten years.
Last week they said five years.
And now 16 day!
Yea Right! It sounds very familiar.

Saddam will have a nuclear weapon capable of reaching the US is ten years.
Saddam will have a nuclear weapon capable of reaching the US is five years.
Saddam will have a nuclear weapon capable of reaching the US is one years.
Saddam will have a nuclear weapon capable of reaching the US is one month.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 09:52 PM
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17. First they have to get to 3,000 centrifuges, according to the
Edited on Wed Apr-12-06 09:57 PM by Gloria
BBC this AM...just to bolster this small bit of enriched uranium they created. (Which I'm betting they had hanging around for awhile). The report I heard also mentioned the 50,000 centrifuges but also mentioned how difficult that would be to do, since they have to be protected from every little "vibration."

Well, Iran has earthquakes, so whose to say the Natanz plant wouldn't be subject to them, too? Which makes me think that Iran may not be serious about making a bomb from scratch....I'm beginning to think they may already have one, courtesy of Pakistan, perhaps.

They trotted out that little bit of enriched uranium in a real show...they just didn't suddenly get it while the talking has been going on. They've had it for awhile and I think they've got something bigger as well.

Heck, don't they already have the missiles already that can carry a warhead?? If you didn't have them, wouldn't that be putting the cart before the horse?
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 10:05 PM
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18. less than 16 days = bollocks; read the original story, it contradicts that
Edited on Wed Apr-12-06 10:05 PM by TheBaldyMan
Original story from Bloomberg

Even then read all of it, originally it says that a 50,000 centrifuge array could make enough fissile material for one bomb in a fortnight. The only problem is the Iranians have less than 200.

Iran will expand to 3,000 centrifuges within a year, or so they say. This will mean another 9 months at full capacity to make enough material for one bomb.

"conservativeunderground.com" really means scare-mongering-fantasy.com
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19. Locking
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