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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 11:35 AM
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a small rant on a "liberal media" (or: please stop calling republicans...
...conservatives).

i see so many posts on DU calling for a liberal network or a liberal media. i think that's a mistake. in fact, i'm not sure what a liberal media would be? or a conservative media for that matter. but if there exists a notion of a "liberal" media, i think it would be as harmful as a "conservative" media.

what we want is a free and fair and honest media. fox news is not conservative...fox news is state sponsored propoganda. if people calling for a "liberal network", something like the opposite of fox, mean they want a media that will slant things toward the "liberal" side (whatever that is) then how would that be any better than the filth we have with fox? it would only be propoganda that we would cheer for....just like the mindless freepers cheer for fox news and the propogandists there.

the media cannot be either conservative or liberal. the media can, and does, have a corporate agenda these days. the news seems to favor republicans and their ideology. that's a bad thing. it would be a bad thing if the shoe were on the other foot too. what we want is honest government of the people, for the people, and by the people. and we want a media that is honest and fair and is always pursuing truth no matter who is in power. we don't have any of that.

and another thing: please stop referring to republicans and their ideology as conservative. there is nothing conservative about them. absolutely nothing. bill clinton was more of a true conservative than any republican these days. the republican party is a front for big business. nothing more. their platform is crafted to get votes. call republicans "right wingers", "corporate socialists", "boot lickers", "human garbage" if you want....but please don't mistakenly identify them as conservative.

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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 11:46 AM
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1. 'call republicans . . . "corporate socialists"'
Oooh, I LOVE this! What a great frame. Corporate Socialists - - - thanks for that.

As for the gist of your post, I so agree with what you say.

I hate the idea of a liberal or a conservative press. Just give us the facts - - all the facts or as many as you can squeeze in - - and I can bring my own brain cells to bear on the issues.

You also give us another great phrase in describing Faux News: " ..Fox News is state-sponsored propaganda."

A great post!
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 12:56 PM
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2. hey....check your inbox
nt
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 01:12 PM
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3. What used to be called "objective" is now called "liberal bias."
However, the former word is still more appropriate. How can someone honestly say that there's a good side to global climate change? How is more homeless people on the streets a positive thing? How, exactly, do you honestly say that starting a war against a country that never attacked us, under false pretenses, has both a good AND bad aspect? Seems all bad to me, and to anyone who has both a brain and a conscience.

That's the problem: the media has been so cowed by special interest rightist groups and corporate money that they now present a story or a situation that, baldly, obviously, has no positive aspects to it for the majority of people, and try to get the viewer to believe that there's "two sides" to be weighed. In the late 60's, 70's, and into most of the 90's, a story about climate change would be presented using facts gleaned by scientists, and the picture painted would be a uniformly negative one, because, well, there really is no positive side to global warming. So they'd air a story about it, then some dickwipe from the MRC or some other conservative watchdog group would get uppity and send a bunch of nasty letters, demanding that the polluters themselves get a crack at the airwaves to defend themselves. Do murderers need a forum to address THEIR grievances with the victim? That's not how it works in the courts, and that shouldn't be how the media works.

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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 03:02 PM
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4. great post!
the global warming issue is an excellent example. there is no good side to global warming. every credible scientist says it's happening, yet non-scientific republican corporate scum are given equal time and credibility in the media when they claim global warming isn't happening. this would be like giving nazis equal time and credibility to defend themselves in the media. it's ridiculous.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 11:34 AM
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8. I think part of this is the result of...
...reporters not wanting to look contraversial. If they call a BS position BS they will be attacked as biased, leading to all opinions treated equally no mater how BS the opinion is, IDers and GW denialists are a good example.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 03:19 PM
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5. I'm with you - the GOP agenda is an affront to any true conservative.
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 08:43 AM
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6. exactly. why does the GOP get to make up the definitions for the words...
...conservative and liberal?
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 08:46 AM
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7. Agreed.
"what we want is a free and fair and honest media."

Exactly right.
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