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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 02:02 PM
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DSCC fundraiser: Can we take 8 Senate seats?
Here's their analysis of swing races and vulnerable seats in the Senate for 2006, and their polling that says we can take them:



From:
http://www.dscc.org/pollingupdate /

Now, my question: Do you agree with the DSCC analysis? Can we really take 8 seats? And would it be better to pick some of these campaigns and contribute to them or give the money to the DSCC?
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OrokuSaki Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 02:03 PM
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1. .
Hmm, that's a tall order, but it's possible
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 02:05 PM
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3. That's not 8 pickups...
Edited on Fri Mar-10-06 02:09 PM by SteppingRazor
All of those open seats were vacated by Dems and one independent, except Tennessee. So, really, this is only 5 pickups

On edit: Also, this doesn't address New Jersey, which is a quasi-open seat, in that the elected Senator, Corzine, has become governor, leaving Menendez -- a relative unknown -- to face Tom Kean in a very close race. It also doesn't address possibly Dem. pickups in Missouri and Ohio, and doesn't address possible GOP pickups at all -- for good reasons, though, since there probably are none.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 02:11 PM
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6. Ah! Excellent observation.
Damn! I was hoping for eight. But with the ones they left out, maybe it IS 8. Hmmm.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 02:15 PM
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8. I've been following this for a while now, and here's my analysis:
Edited on Fri Mar-10-06 03:02 PM by SteppingRazor
RETIRING
MARYLAND
Sarbanes (D - Maryland)
Election -- I see it between Dem. Rep. Ben Cardin (beating out scandal-plagued Kweisi Mfume in the primary) and Lt. Gov. Michael Steele.
Result -- Some pollsters have suggested that, after beating a black man in the primary, Cardin will lose the black vote to Steele in the general election. But I think black voters are smart enough not to vote on race alone. Say hello to Senator Cardin.
(STAYS DEM)

MINNESOTA
Dayton (D - Minnesota)
Election After beating Patty Wetterling in the primary, Amy Klobuchar (who leads Wetterling 66 to 15 in one DFL poll) takes on Republican Rep. Mark Kennedy, who is the GOP chosen one for this field.
Result Normally a Democratic stronghold, Minnesota feels shame and degradation after allowing Norm Coleman to win. This is a win for Dems, but its a close one.
(STAYS DEM)

NEW JERSEY
Corzine (D - New Jersey)
Election -- Corzine beat Forrester in this year's election to become governor of New Jersey, leaving his chosen successor, new Senator Robert Menendez, to run against state senator Tom Kean.
Result -- Tough call. The Democrats closest race, in terms of those races where theyre trying to hold onto their own seats. But look to Menendez to pull it off.
(STAYS DEM)

TENNESSEE
Frist (R - Tennessee)
Election -- The catkiller steps out to go for the Big Brass Ring (a.k.a. The White House), and (after a primary against Jesus freak Van Hillary and more-moderate Bob Corker) paleo-con Ed Bryant goes toe-to-toe with Harold Ford, Jr., a moderate (read: conservative) Democrat.
Result -- The Fords are a household name in Tennessee. And this one will be the first black man elected to the Senate from the South since Reconstruction, notwithstanding his uncles recent troubles.
(CHANGES TO DEM)

VERMONT
Jeffords (I - Vermont)
Election -- The Dems defer to Independent candidate Bernie Sanders. The GOP throws up Gregory Parke and cries like a little girl.
Result -- Vermont Loves Bernie. Nuff said.
(STAYS INDEPENDENT)


SHOULD BE RETIRING
HAWAII
Akaka (D - Hawaii)
Election -- Akaka (age at election: 82) vs. unknown
Result -- Akaka should step down, as Hawaii is slowly trending Republican and we should get a young incumbent in while we can. But at least Akaka is a shoe-in.
(STAYS DEM)

INDIANA
Lugar (R - Indiana)
Election -- Lugar (age at election: 74) vs. unknown.
Result With a large investment of time and money, Lugar could be vulnerable. But the Democrats havent even found a good candidate. So, Lugars got it made.
(STAYS GOP)

MASSACHUSETTS
Kennedy (D - Massachusetts)
Election -- Kennedy (age at election: 74) vs. some poor sap, probably Kenneth Chase (ever heard of him? Neither have I.)
Result -- Mitt Romney might run when Kennedy retires, if he doesnt take a shot at the White House. For now, Kennedys untouchable.
(STAYS DEM)

WEST VIRGINIA
Byrd (D - W. Va.)
Election -- Byrd (age at election: 88) vs. Rep. Shelly Moore Capito (after a primary against Hiram Lewis)
Result While I generally feel that anyone who is going to hit age 90 in their next term should probably retire and start on the requisite memoir, Byrd is nevertheless a sacred cow in West Virginia.
(STAYS DEM)


ELECTIONS
ARIZONA
Kyl (R - Arizona)
Election -- Kyl vs. former Arizona party chair Jim Pederson
Result Despite its reputation as a swing state and Kyls conservative voting record, he remains popular. Unless the Dems can re-brand him as an archconservative of the neo-con, corporo-fascist variety, hes in.
(STAYS GOP)

CALIFORNIA
Feinstein (D - California)
Election -- Feinstein vs. unknown. Probably some GOP guy you last heard of racing against Ah-nold (McClintock, Issa, etc.).
Result Given Californias Democratic trend and the highly conservative makeup of its Republican Party (which therefore will likely vote for a totally unelectable opponent in the primary), Feinstein is the HUGE favorite.
(STAYS DEM)

CONNECTICUT
Lieberman (D - Connecticut)
Election -- Lieberman vs. unknown. Maybe ex-Gov./ex.-Sen. Lowell Weicker.
Result Despite being extremely unpopular among the left, Lieberman remains popular in his home state enough so that the GOP will have problems without a strong candidate. And with the implosion of the Connecticut GOP following the removal of Conn.s governor, they dont have one.
(STAYS DEM)

DELAWARE
Carper (D - Delaware)
Election -- Carper vs. unknown. Possibly 02 candidate Colin Bonini.
Result After Republican rep. Mike Castle announced he wouldnt run, this seat was all but guaranteed for Carper.
(STAYS DEM)

FLORIDA
Nelson (D - Florida)
Election -- Nelson vs. Katherine "Cruella deVille" Harris
Result Much of the state not just in the left, but also among independents and moderates -- sees Harris as nothing but a thoughtless GOP apparatchik who fixed the 2000 election. Nelson wins.
(STAYS DEM)

MAINE
Snowe (R - Maine)
Election -- Snowe vs. state AG Rowe.
Result -- While Snowe vs. Rowe sounds funny, it ain't for us. It's the old moderate story. If she wins the primary, she's in. As for retirement rumors, dont count on it.
(STAYS GOP)

MICHIGAN
Stabenow (D - Michigan)
Election -- Stabenow vs. (after a nasty, drawn-out primary against Nick Smith) token black conservative Keith Butler, whom the GOP hopes will siphon off black votes.
Result As in Nebraska, the top-tier candidates (in this case, folks like representatives Candice Miller and Joe Rogers) have ruled-out a run against Stabenow. That means that, despite an extremely tight 2000 election, shes in much better shape this time around.
(STAYS DEM)

MISSISSIPPI
Lott (R - Mississippi)
Election -- Trent Lott vs. Erik Fleming
Result -- ha ha ha ha! Why are you even hoping? It's Lott by a mile.
(STAYS GOP)

MISSOURI
Talent (R - Missouri)
Election -- Talent vs. state auditor Claire McCaskill
Results VERY tight race, but Talent will pull it off in the end. This has the potential to be the tightest race of the year, though, so its really anybodys game.
(STAYS GOP)

MONTANA
Burns (R - Montana)
Election -- Burns vs. (after a long primary against state auditor John Morrison) state Senate president Jon Tester
Result -- The Dems took over both state houses and the governorship in the last couple of years. 73-year-old Burns is a fossil, and by election time, hell be drowning in the Jack Abramoff scandal. Tester is young, with plenty of ideas. He wins.
(CHANGES TO DEM)

NEBRASKA
Nelson (D - Nebraska)
Election -- Nelson vs. (after a primary against former state party chair David Kramer and former Attorney General Don Stenberg) former Ameritrade COO Pete Ricketts.
Result Ricketts is, at best, a third-string candidate. Governor Mike Johanns was named Agriculture Secretary, and former football coach and current congressman Tom Osbourne backed out foolishly, as he probably could have won. As it stands, this seat is Nelsons to lose.
(STAYS DEM)

NEVADA
Ensign (R Nevada)
Election Ensign vs. Jimmy Carters son, Jack
Result Name recognition means something, but Jimmy Carter is ancient history, and the name recognition no longer means as much. Especially out here in the western desert.
(STAYS GOP)

NEW MEXICO
Bingaman (D - New Mexico)
Election -- Bingaman vs. David Pfeffer.
Result Republican Rep. Heather Wilson would have made this competitive, but the Democrats were smart enough to offer a serious challenge to her House seat, making a Senate run extremely risky for her. The second-string candidate, Pfeffer, is a former Democrat who supports Social Security privatization and the Iraq War. Hes screwed.
(STAYS DEM)

NEW YORK
Clinton (D - New York)
Election -- Clinton vs. Westchester County District Attorney Jeanne Pirro
Result -- Only in their wet dreams does the GOP beat Hillary
(STAYS DEM)

NORTH DAKOTA
Conrad (D - North Dakota)
Election -- Conrad vs. unknown.
Result -- Conrad has played it safe, playing moderate as best he can. He'll get payback for that by winning re-election. Unlike Lieberman, there's very little liberal base in North Dakota to try running a lib candidate against him. And besides, even if that candidate won, it would just mean a beating from the GOP. In this case, moderation pays. That, and the fact that top-tier GOP candidate John Hoeven has said he wont run.
(STAYS DEM)

OHIO
DeWine (R - Ohio)
Election -- DeWine vs. Sherrod Brown
Result DeWine ranks 94th out of the 100 Senators in popularity in home state. His approval is well below 50%. The Ohio GOP is in disarray after the scandals of Governor Taft and the near-defeat of Rep. Schmidt by Iraq War veteran Paul Hackett, plus the crushing defeat of DeWines son and the upcoming Abramoff-related scandal of Bob Ney. Brown is a household name in Ohio, and should beat DeWine handily. I would have liked it better if Hackett had gone against DeWine and Brown had waited until 2010 to take on Voinovich, but what the hell.
(CHANGES TO DEM)

PENNSYLVANIA
Santorum (R - Pennsylvania)
Election -- Santorum vs. state treasurer Bob Casey
Result -- In a moderate, mostly blue state like Pennsylvania, Santorum should've kept his religio-whacko views out of the headlines. Casey is a pro-life Democrat, very middle of the road. Its exactly what the Dems needed a sane man to highlight Santorums insanity.
(CHANGES TO DEM)

RHODE ISLAND
Chafee (R - Rhode Island)
Election -- Chafee vs. (after a primary against Secretary of State Matt Brown) state Attorney General Sheldon Whitehouse.
Result -- With a name like Whitehouse, hes just gotta win. Chafee has drawn Republican ire for straying from the true faith, even raising the possibility of switching parties in 2004. With the GOP abandoning him, and with Rhode Islands heavily Democratic population, the popular Whitehouse goes in for the upset. Theres even the outside chance that conservative Cranston Mayor Steve Laffey will beat Chafee in the primaries. If that happens, this turns into a slaughterhouse as moderates flee the GOP.
(CHANGES TO DEM)

TEXAS
Hutchinson (R - Texas)
Election -- Hutchison vs. Houston attorney Barbara Radnofsky
Result -- Dude, it's Texas.
(STAYS GOP)

UTAH
Hatch (R - Utah)
Election -- Hatch vs. Pete Ashdown
Result -- Popular Democratic Rep. Jim Matheson has refused to go against Hatch, leaving Ashdown to be crushed. Look for Matheson to try a run after Hatch retires, but for now, Hatch wins.
(STAYS GOP)

VIRGINIA
Allen (R - Virginia)
Election -- Allen vs. James Webb.
Result The Dems could take this one, if only Governor Mark Warner would throw his hat in the ring. Instead, he seems to have his eye on a bid for the White House. Its a shame, because he might have been the one to give the Dems a majority in the Senate. Webb will be a tough campaigner, but in a very tight race, the advantage goes to the incumbent.
(STAYS GOP)

WASHINGTON
Cantwell (D - Washington)
Election -- Cantwell vs. Safeco CEO Mike McGavick
Result Despite her close win in 2000, polls show Cantwell leading McGavick by double digits. Nuff said.
(STAYS DEM)

WISCONSIN
Kohl (D - Wisconsin)
Election -- Kohl vs. unknown. Possibly Robert Lorge.
Result Early speculation postulated that Sec. Tommy Thompson might make a run, but that aint happening. Nor have other potential candidates, such as Rep. Paul Ryan, stepped forward. Looks like Kohl will coast, simply through lack of real competition.
(STAYS DEM)

WYOMING
Thomas (R - Wyoming)
Election -- Thomas vs. unknown.
Election -- To paraphrase my Texas thing -- Dude, it's Wyoming.
(STAYS GOP)


Final: The Dems pick up 5 seats, making the Senate 50 GOP, 49 Dems, and 1 Independent.
Which means another GOP majority. The Independent Sanders caucuses with the Dems, and Vice President Cheney breaks the tie, giving it to the GOP.
If McCaskill would win in Missouri, or if Webb would win in Virginia, we could even pull a majority, assuming everything I have here turns our to be correct.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 02:27 PM
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11. Nice! Thanks!
Bookmarking. Wow, this is going to be an interesting year.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 03:52 PM
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18. Thank YOU !!
excellent rundown and I think you have a good political eye.
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 04:45 PM
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21. Good work.
I hope we can pull one more, though.

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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 02:30 PM
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13. Makes It Clear that We Will Not Be Retaking the Senate
Edited on Fri Mar-10-06 02:32 PM by AndyTiedye
Picking up 5 is the absolute best-case scenario, and that still leaves the Repubs in control.

We won't pick up a seat in Ohio as long as Blackwell is counting the votes, so 4 is the best we can really hope for.

We have lost seats in each of the past three elections, regardless of the polls.
I think we need to put some effort into defending the seats we have.

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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 02:56 PM
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16. I would agree, except that...
we're really not vulnerable in any of our seats. New Jersey, maybe. And Maryland, conceivably. But other than that, all of our incumbents are shoe-ins.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 03:48 PM
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17. But Even If We Take All of these Seats, We Still Don't Take the Senate
All 8 (5 pickups and hold 3 seats we already have)
would only bring us to 50, which isn't good enough.

We won't get all 8 anyway. Blackwell will make sure that DeWine wins, no matter how far behind he is.

Are there any other Republican seats we could conceivably pick up?
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 03:56 PM
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19. Sure. Missouri's also a possibility, as is Virginia...
now that Webb entered the race. A Democratic takeover of the Senate IS within the realm of possiblities -- not likely, I will grant you, but it is possible.
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Sammy Pepys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 02:09 PM
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4. I think that analysis...
...is incredibly optimistic.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 02:09 PM
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5. Looking good. Burns is in big trouble. Go get em Dems! n/t
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 02:12 PM
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7. Which one of the 2 primary candidates
do you think is best?
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 02:20 PM
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10. I like Tester...
Because he's come out against the Iraq War -- or at the very least, for a plan to bring the troops home ASAP. Morrison has been a lot more state-centric, while Tester has addressed national issues. Since I'm not a Montanan, that makes me like Tester, since Morrison is somewhat of an unknown commodity to me still. Also, Tester has more cash, which makes him a better candidate for an expensive, dragged-out fight against Burns.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 02:18 PM
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9. NONE of this is possible with electronic paperless voting!
Polls don't matter if the votes are tallied by Republican cronies, with a huge financial interest in tilting the results to favor their Repug friends.

Get the message, Dems. We need honest, transparent elections in Novemeber! NOTHING ELSE MATTERS!
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 02:29 PM
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12. So what are YOU doing about it? nt
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 02:30 PM
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14. The people of the great state of Tennessee
don't seem too happy with their choices. What's ford's problem there? Why can't he track?
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 02:55 PM
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15. Here's two things:
1) Racism. Let's face it, it's harder to elect a black man than a white man

2) The Ford family name. Ever since the indictment of Ford's uncle, the Ford name, a long-standing one in Tennessean political circles, has become synonymous with greed and corruption.

Ford has to step out from both of those shadows to get eleccted. But if, as the OP suggests, Ford will be going against Van Hilleary, I think he'll win. Hilleary is a freaking nutcase, and most voters know it. If Corker or Bryant wins, he may have a more difficult time.
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ncteechur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 04:20 PM
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20. If Cheney retires, and mccain is made VP, can't napolitano appoint
a democrat to replace him? Or does she have to appoint a republican? I think i am right, isn't napolitano gov of arizona?
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