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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 12:18 PM
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Sandra Day O'Connor Warns Of "Beginnings" Of Dictatorship...
Edited on Fri Mar-10-06 12:43 PM by caligirl
front page of Huff post.

www.huffingtonpost.com


some of her comments:NPR's Nina Totenberg aired an amazing story this morning about a talk that just-resigned Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor gave at Georgetown University. The first woman to serve on the High Court wouldn't allow her actual words to be broadcast, and that's a shame, because -- based on Totenberg's report -- every American needs to hear what she said. The Reagan appointee who became a moderate and an American icon -- Bush v. Gore notwithstanding -- all but named names in thinly veiled attacks on former House majority leader Tom DeLay and Texas Sen. John Cornyn, and ended with a stunning warning.

O'Connor told her Georgetown audience that judges can make presidents, Congress and governors "really really mad," and that if judges don't make people angry, they aren't doing their job. But she said judicial effectiveness is "premised on the notion that we won't be subject to retaliation for our judicial acts." While hailing the American system of rights and privileges, she noted that these don't protect the judiciary, that "people do":

better link.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2006/03/10/sandra-day-oco...
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 12:19 PM
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1. Too bad she retired.
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shoelace414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 12:19 PM
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2. her warning is about keeping the Judicary independent
I wonder why she retired if she feels this way.
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 12:21 PM
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4. she can't say that if she is on the SC. I don't think so anyway.
Going to Georgetown and warning people is one way to alert the American public to wake up.
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 12:20 PM
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3. IT STARTED WITH RONALD REAGAN.
I hope Ms. O'Connor rots in hell for her part in what the GOP has done to us.
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i miss america Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 12:25 PM
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10. She participated in the shredding of our Constitution.
If she wants to make amends, she better change her position and allow her opinion to be widely known. Otherwise, like Lady Macbeth, she'll never be able to wash all that blood off her hands.
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 12:33 PM
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17. Republicans must wear red to hide the blood of innocents.
n/t
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400Years Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 12:40 PM
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19. I'd go back a little further with the Dulles boys and Hoover
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 12:45 PM
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22. I just use Reagan because that's when they hoodwinked
a majority of American voters. You are correct that it started behind the scenes with the Dulleses, etc. but Reagan took it mainstream. It's sad that it only took a B-grade actor...
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 02:01 PM
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29. Yes, I'm with you about * as the apotheosis of Reaganism
I'm not sure I hope she "rots in hell" but I do think "mea culpas" are definitely in order from her in order to secure her reputation.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 12:21 PM
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5. did she say that she feels remorse for her role in the 2000 election
that was the beginning of the current slide down hill
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 12:21 PM
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6. Suddenly...
(Tinfoil hat time) I wondered if she was "convinced" to retire.
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 12:25 PM
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12. I got that feeling too - that she was saying she had no one protecting

her back
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 12:41 PM
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20. edited, wrong place to put this comment.+
Edited on Fri Mar-10-06 12:42 PM by caligirl
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 12:23 PM
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7. Then why the fuck did she abandon us?
Hey, I know her hubby was sick, but still...Sandra...when we needed you most!
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 12:29 PM
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14. By resigning and taking another position, she betrays her own warnings
she said she had to resign in order to go back home to Arizona and take care of her ailing husband - but she took a position as chancellor at a college in Washington, knowing how the SCOTUS was going to be filled with white male fascists - Bush vs Gore was decided by her vote. She owed the American people for her terrible mistake. She left the SCOTUS with only one woman seated, knowing that the likes of Scalia would be nominated and pushed through to take her place. Her duplicity in creating the fascist state by these decisions will go down in history. Shame on her!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 12:23 PM
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8. in the end it comes down to THE PEOPLE.



......she noted that these don't protect the judiciary, that "people do":
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 02:29 PM
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33. lol -- you mean all those people who don't believe in evolution?
Edited on Fri Mar-10-06 02:29 PM by xchrom
good luck with that.{ms. o'connor}

this country is going to split.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 12:24 PM
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9. She deserves her husband's fate for what she's done to all of us. n/t
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 12:48 PM
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23. Thats pretty harsh, Roe V Wade means something to many and
I for one don't think Alzheimers is something to use as punishment. Bush got into power for many other reasons, she should not be the whipped verbally as though she is entirely at fault. Roe V wade saved thousands of womens live for decades, she ways the deciding vote I believe in that matter.

There is ample blame to spread around, not to an old woman who now speaks out.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 02:22 PM
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31. I disagree, but I respect your viewpoint, Cali! n/t
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 04:35 PM
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39. umm, okay then.
Edited on Fri Mar-10-06 04:36 PM by caligirl
:pals:
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OrokuSaki Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 01:58 PM
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28. Hmm
I don't like her either, but you may want to ask yourself, "Does her husband deserve his fate?"
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 02:23 PM
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32. I have no idea about him, but a very definite opinion of her.
5-4. That's as far as I need go. Not that your question made sense in any case.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 12:25 PM
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11. Didn't she vote FOR Bush in Bush v Gore in 2000?
She helped install him in 2000. Fuck her and her opinion. She helped create this situation.
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 12:30 PM
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16. exactly.
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RazzleDazzle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 12:28 PM
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13. please post the permalink
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 12:44 PM
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21. its there now.
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 12:30 PM
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15. I wonder if she has any regrets she helped put an evil moron in office?
I'll bet most repukes regret propping dim son up for so long,now that they see who he REALLY is. I would be laughing my ass off right now if it wasn't for the rest of us having to suffer too.Chimpy is a total failure and the biggest embarrassment ever. It's really odd that it's taken so long for repukes to realize what this demon is capable of...but they can't turn on him all the way because they have to save face.

Repukes don't turn on each other,it's their "Golden Rule",so it puts them in a very difficult position to have to support him while running away from him at the same time. Ha ha....they got what they asked for. :)
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 12:34 PM
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18. Just like Eisenhower - warning us but doing nothing.
Republicans are so worthless.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 12:52 PM
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24. Like my kids saying the dog is loose after *they* left the gate open.
:eyes:
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 02:33 PM
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34. they know you're going to send them after him/her,
but there they stand -- ''mom/dad -- the dog is out!''

:banghead:
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 03:29 PM
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35. Exactly! When these criminal cowards are finally out of power, we'll
all be closing the gates and looking for our dogs.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 01:15 PM
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25. 'judges can make presidents'....no shit, Sherlock
Thanks for nothing, Sandra.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 01:17 PM
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26. Hey Sandy!
YOU HELPED START THIS SHIT!!
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OrokuSaki Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 01:41 PM
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27. Hmmm...
How hypocritical of her.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 02:03 PM
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30. a day late and a dollar short
Considering Ms. O'Connor's well publicized and grotesquely inappropriate admission when she heard Gore was looking like the winner (that he was) in 2000 that she could not retire if he won, and considering her participation in the 5:4 judicial coup d'etat that year, I find her after-the-fact calling a spade a spade anemic.

If she felt this way so strongly, she should have stayed on the court and made a difference, at least until a Democratic president could replace her.

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JohnWxy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 03:32 PM
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36. I wish she would have realized this a little sooner. It might have saved
Edited on Fri Mar-10-06 03:36 PM by JohnWxy
a democracy .... OURS, (remember when we had one - pre 2000).


voted for this post.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 04:10 PM
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37. She speaks up now?
RW hypocristy has no limits.
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 04:13 PM
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38. she made her bones as a party hack in Arizona with Rehnquist
She finished a party hack, too, replaced by a worse party hack.

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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 05:31 PM
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40. well, she's partly responsible
I wish she'd been wise to this threat back in late 2000 ...
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windy252 Donating Member (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 05:32 PM
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41. It's very difficult for me to respect her when she says this
since she's one of the people responsible for starting it.
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Pied Piper Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 05:54 PM
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42. Too little, too late
She had the chance to stop it, and she failed.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 05:57 PM
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43. Then why did she hand the "election" to Bush?
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 07:06 PM
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44. Okay, she gets credit for changing...
but she's got a lot to answer for. She helped get us into this mess.
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Gingergal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 07:42 PM
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45. Rehnquist began to worry about the attacks on the judiciary.
He was holding on to his position in the supreme court despite his poor health and wouldn't retire. That is how worried he was. I wonder if he and Sandra talked about this.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 09:19 AM
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46. did any mainstream newspaper carry this today?
any links would be appreciated.
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