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SeaBob Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 11:21 PM
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your choice for president of America
Edited on Sat Mar-04-06 11:24 PM by SeaBob
who would you pick to run the country?
A) John kerry
B) Al Gore
C) Hillary Clinton
D) John dean
E) Please suggest another canidate?______________________________________
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 11:22 PM
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1. Warner and Clark. nt
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FightingIrish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 11:24 PM
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2. Wes Clark, our best shot at a real president
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:01 AM
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28. A real President
More than ever we need a military man to take control of our country and Wes Clark is the best choice.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 11:26 PM
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3. 1) Gore or 2) Clark or 3)Hillary. My fave if he was ready would be Obama
although it's still early for him, I suppose.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:47 AM
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62. It's way too late for Obama

if bush is our measuring stick. :)

I would take Clinton, Clark, Edwards,Kerry or Obama.

I just want a WIN for the Democrats.

Right now the Media is telling us to hate CLINTON and we are buying into it.

I refuse to eat our own.

I will wait and see and be supportive of ALL of them right now.
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mbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 11:27 PM
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4. Al Gore would be a great President - I only with he would
win again! Perhaps we can elect this time and not select a reject again!
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CAG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 11:27 PM
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5. me
My first executive order would be to declare that a sitting president could play augusta national at any time.



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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 11:28 PM
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6. Most of my political heroes are dead.
Edited on Sat Mar-04-06 11:31 PM by ReadTomPaine
Republicans are funny that way about about effective Democrats. Maybe electronic voting does indeed represent compassionate conservatism.

On edit: By the way, Does the President of America also get to call the shots in Mexico and Canada? ;)
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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 11:29 PM
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7. E....Mario Cuomo
Period!
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 11:32 PM
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9. Maybe one of the best choices of all
Cuomo would've made a super one, IMO.
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Arkham House Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 11:35 PM
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12. Super Mario...?
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CAG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 11:49 PM
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24. Could you imagine how Cuomo would just absolutely humiliate any repuke
who would challenge him??

Could you imagine what a figurative bloodbath a Cuomo-* debate would look like?

How about Cuomo-Delay or Cuomo-Frist debate???? OMG!!!

Cuomo would simply run laps around any of these bozo's
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Appalachian_American Donating Member (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 08:28 AM
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50. Cuomo/Dean would be inspiring!
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 10:54 AM
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56. Mario Cuomo said, "Wes Clark is a man of whom you can ask a question,
and he will look you directly in the eye, and give you the most truthful and complete answer you can imagine. You will know the absolute truth of the statement as well as the thought process behind the answer. You will have no doubt as to the intellect of the speaker and meaning of the answer to this question....So you can see, as a politician, he has a lot to learn."
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For PaisAn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 02:49 PM
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69. I love that Cuomo quote
n/t
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 11:30 PM
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8. JOHN KERRY!
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 11:33 PM
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10. President of America?
I think Canada and Mexico might not want to go with that.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 11:39 PM
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16. No kidding, & when did John Dean throw his hat into the ring?
"who would you pick to run the country?
A) John kerry
B) Al Gore
C) Hillary Clinton
D) John dean
E) Please suggest another canidate?____"
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 11:45 PM
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22. And not to be too persnickety, but I'd also point out that
under the Constitution, the President doesn't "run the country." He/she is the head of state and commander in chief of the armed forces, but doesn't run the country -- that's a function of Congress and the administrative agencies of the Executive branch, overseen by the Supreme Court and subject to veto by the President. That arrangement has been largely ignored by the current squatter in the White House, who really does think he runs the country, but it's not supposed to work that way.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 11:43 PM
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21. No shit!......My vote goes to Hugo Chavez!
Viva Hugo!
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 11:33 PM
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11. My candidates wouldn't be in the east coast elites
and most of them would be relatively unknown, languishing in local offices because they know if they stuck their head up and got noticed by running for higher office, the established party conservatives would make sure they never got past the primary by endorsing their safe opposition candidates.

The only one worth my while above that level is Gov. Schweitzer of Montana because he knows what it takes to connect with the party base and get elected in GOP strongholds.

The rest of them only see the country's yuppies. They have no clue how to get the party's base back and therefore will lose if the anti Stupid sentiment isn't enough to propel any of them to a whopping four year term.
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NativeTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 11:38 PM
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13. Mr. Chairman, the delegation from NativeTexan casts......
........its vote for either Wesley Clark or Hillary Clinton and either with Obama as a running mate.

But thats just me.........
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Arkham House Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 11:38 PM
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14. I'd like to see--
--a combination of Tom Paine, Jefferson, William Tecumseh Sherman, Thaddeus Stevens, FDR, Truman, JFK, HL Mencken, and maybe a touch of Robespierre...but, barring that rather unlikely combinmation in one man, I'll take Al Gore as my second choice...
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 11:38 PM
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15. Wesley Clark. n/t
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 11:39 PM
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17. Al Gore, hands down.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 11:40 PM
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18. The Democrat, of course.
Edited on Sat Mar-04-06 11:40 PM by emulatorloo
ABADR

Anybody But Another Damn Republican

(On that list, I prefer Kerry. Not on that list I like Clark and many others)
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 11:40 PM
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19. B. I like Al
VP, Clark
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:28 AM
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60. That sounds like a good plan!
Clark would be a good secretary of state.
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 11:42 PM
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20. Leaning towards this guy right now.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 11:48 PM
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23. Pedro! He will make all your dreams come true.
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 11:53 PM
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26. What the hey, He offered me his protection as well.
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:54 AM
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41. LOL
:rofl: you insignificant twerp! :rofl: :applause: :hi: :loveya:
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neoblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 11:51 PM
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25. Gore, Dean, None of the Above...
Gore, if he could simply be aggressive about correcting others when they decide to misquote him (you can't counter an intentional misquote with "I'm sorry you misunderstood me" or "Perhaps I wasn't clear..."). He's made to "look the fool" too often and too easily--and very much wrongly.

Dean, if only to shake things up and/or antagonize the powers that be. Though even he doesn't back up all his promises of action (then again, perhaps no one could under today's conditions).

Hillary, simply has no chance--and given her willingness to embrace centrism, perhaps it's best that way.

Kerry, well, he was an all but absurd choice in the first place. A significant percentage of Americans may be shallow (in that looks, personality and mannerisms count) and they may be uneducated (in that they don't even understand the difference in decision making styles between the two distinctly different offices of President and Senator), but besides the charisma-vacuum, Kerry simply lacks the requisite backbone for the job.

Wes Clark, seems like an honorable guy and is probably pretty sharp, but he's never been anything but a guy who's really good at following orders. Just too one-dimensional in his military mystique; a little stiff and doesn't get his message out very well.

Obama, well, there's just something shady about him; I don't trust him. He seems to take the stage and then butterfly all over the issue without really making a real stand. Then again, that's a terrific skill for a poly-tician.

None of the Above, plainly this is the best answer yet. We need somebody who has "Presidential" looks, a "real" personality, personal integrity/honesty, a quick wit and sharp mind and some solid, unadulterated and inalienable Democratic/Left/Progressive values. Add to that a little charisma and passion and a decent amount of relevant experience and we have it. Even if the person wasn't exceptional in all such areas it would be enough. Alas, there seemes to be a real vacuum when it comes to "leadership"** in our party.

**psychological studies have noted that people who are the better/more natural "liars" (capable of deception without guilt) when judged by numbers of people, tend to score highly in the measure entitled "Leadership". That says something about people in general, and it's not particularly flattering. So, if we lack leadership, in a way, that's a good thing. Still, we not only crave inspired leadership, but we really do need it.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 11:57 PM
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27. Al Gore seems to be the most qualified candidate in the field.
I don't think he ran a good campaign in 2000, but it was good enough to get the votes. Since that time he has matured and has turned into a very effective statesman.
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Daphne08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:05 AM
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29. Anyone but Hillary, for the simple reason that the Republicans
have already decided for us that she will be the nominee.

They know she will bring out the "Anyone but Hillary" voters en masse.



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killerbush Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 06:29 PM
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81. If you expect
Hillary to be like Bill, then your sorrily mistaken
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guidod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:12 AM
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30. Gore/Feingold
Clinton and Kerry voted in favor of the Patriot Act. I've removed them from my list. Dean is not strong enough and, unfortunately, he could never shake the scream. :banghead:
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PatrioticLeftie Donating Member (909 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:14 AM
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31. Al Gore
But there are many other qualified candidates.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:15 AM
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32. John Kerry!! n/t
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:18 AM
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33. Not John Dean. Not Halderman or Erlichman either.
I'll take any Democrat right now. Even our worst is far better than anybody they will nominate.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 10:46 AM
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55. Rosemary Woods might be good though. nt
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:38 AM
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34. My suggestion...


A girl can dream, can't she?

Peace.
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OctOct1 Donating Member (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:43 AM
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35. Feingold/Gore or Feingold/Clark
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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:45 AM
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36. If only Gore would take the job
The man's been right about more things than any political leader in the past 20 years.
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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:50 AM
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37. The Future would seem brighter if we all stuck with KERRY as loyal
soldiers in this grave struggle.
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PVK Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:50 AM
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38. HOWARD DEAN. n/t
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Sugarcoated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:53 AM
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39. Russ Feingold
The dark horse candidate
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:54 AM
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40. John Edwards, natch
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:56 AM
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42. Feingold or Gore..
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election_2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:59 AM
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43. John Dean???
Do you mean Howard Dean? (who can't run, because he's DNC chair)

Where are Warner, Richardson, Clark, Edwards, and Vilsack in your poll?
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 02:33 AM
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46. Mr. "punt on illegal NSA spying" Vilsack?
I don't think so.... after that, he's not fit to run for anything (except maybe DNC chairman).

Frankly, given this sorry list, Howard Dean really needs to find a graceful way out of the DNC after the 2006 congressional losses, so that he can hit the campaign trail again. He'd be a shoe-in this time.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 01:28 AM
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44. Nader, of course....
ok, i kid, i kid!!!!
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 02:03 AM
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45. My candidate?
General Wesley Clark!

Watch him on Stenopholous(sp?) tomorrow morning!
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 06:27 AM
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47. General Wesley K. Clark.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 07:12 AM
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48. Wesley Clark - The repug Silver Bullet
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 07:43 AM
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49. Al Gore as Pres and Hillary Clinton or John Dean Vice-Pres nt
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mithnanthy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 08:33 AM
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51. Gore/Feingold
That's my choice. Am I dreamin?
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 10:03 AM
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52. Russ Feingold!
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 10:04 AM
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53. G.O.R.E!
the new gore!
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 10:19 AM
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54. John Kerry.
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benny05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:04 AM
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57. E-- which stands for Edwards
Edited on Sun Mar-05-06 11:18 AM by benny05
Today's appearance on MTP strengthened my belief that he is the man to lead our country out of this horrible mess this president has gotten us into.

And he said on MTP when asked if he was thinking about another run for the presidency..."I'm considering it, yes."



:kick:
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durtee librul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 04:58 PM
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78. Edwards/Feingold
That is the dream team.......

One who can admit he was wrong and one who didn't vote for it in the first place........
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benny05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 05:10 PM
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79. I like Feingold
He is my second choice to be the nominee if JRE is not. He stood against the Patriot Act too!!
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:16 AM
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58. John Edwards
We need a progressive populist who can win.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:21 AM
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59. E: Naturally.....
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riona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:29 AM
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61. welsey clark
it certainly wouldn't hurt to have someone with his military experience in the white house. i'm pretty sure we wouldn't be in this current mess if he were president. he has the patience and respect for negotiation and diplomacy. I hope he has improved his campaigning skills - especially handling the reporters that follow the primary candidates around. unfortunately that is a large part of a successful campaign. he does well when he's interviewed on tv. unfortunately by the time the primary rolled around here last time, the writing was on the wall. i walked into the polling place and there were at least a dozen poll workers and no voters - they got a good laugh when i announced that i must be the only democrat in our area. well, there was one other voter coming in as i left.
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sheelz Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:51 AM
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63. Other
John Edwards or Russ Feingold
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:24 PM
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64. John Kerry is by far the best of this group
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 02:19 PM
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67. Kerry gave up too easily after the 2004 election.
Plus he was not forceful enough about Iraq with Bush. He offered nothing new about the situation. Plus, it did not help matters with the debacle in Ohio. Something he should have fought to the bitter end. Kerry collapsed like a house of cards. Kerry should just stay in the Senate.


John
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:35 PM
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65. E)---> A) Wes Clark
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 02:06 PM
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66. Kerry, Gore and Clark would all be meaningful and competent presidents.
Edited on Sun Mar-05-06 02:09 PM by blm
Whoever does take office in 2009 should immediately tap the other two to work SERIOUSLY on every matter before them and around the world - they are all brilliant and compassionate men.

I would hope that any of the three would OPEN THE BOOKS on IranContra, BCCI and CIA drugrunning because every issue today is rooted in those three.

Both Gore and Clark would need to shake off any infuence from Clinton to follow through on that.
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Generic Brad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 02:25 PM
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68. Mr. Krab From Spongebob Squarepants
Now there's a money manager. :)
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For PaisAn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 02:49 PM
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70. Wes Clark
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 03:13 PM
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71. How about Evo Morales? Hugo Chavez?
David Chernushenko?

Who is my choice for president of the U.S.?

How about a general election ballot with these choices on it:

Medea Benjamin
Dennis Kucinich
John Hagelin
Rebecca Rotzler

Only get to pick one? Then make this the primary selection and I'll go with whoever wins.

Which one is my personal choice to run the country? Dennis Kucinich.
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SeaBob Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 08:38 PM
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86. Denis Kucinich
He gets muy vote -- only because I don't know the others But If I know about them I might vote for one of them
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 03:17 PM
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72. Clark. nt
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 03:22 PM
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73. Clark! n/t
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 03:27 PM
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74. Wes Clark. But first 2006 and winning back Congress n/t
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 04:19 PM
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75. John Kerry. n/t
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Piscis Austrinus Donating Member (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 04:38 PM
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76. Thing is... we have a plethora of excellent choices.
I think the earlier post about Iran/Contra - BCCI was incorrect. If I remember correctly, John Kerry played a role in exposing the BCCI scandal.

But going through the possibilities:

1) Mark Warner - southern governor. Last two Dems to win the White House were southern governors. Seems to be a winning formula.

2) Howard Dean - I like him, but the opposition has too many ways to come after him. I think the strategy would be to blame the Dems for everything that's gone wrong in the last 5 (it will be 8 by the election) years, and gloss over the obvious fact that the Dems have been the minority party for the duration. Dean would provide a bridge for the "Blame (Bill) Clinton" crowd.

3) Barack Obama - consummate politician and likable figure, but probably not yet. At any rate, he has stated for the record that he will not run in 2008.

4) Al Gore - the Wronged Man of American politics. The great thing about Al Gore is that he could go toe-to-toe with any Republican with absolutely genuine ire about almost any issue. Not only is he smarter than anyone in the GOP, but he can out-mad them, too. That's not insignificant, when you consider...

5) John Kerry - who absolutely should have won in 2004 (notwithstanding the fact that we may never know whether or not he did). He lost because he failed to counter two issues that wound up framing him throughout the campaign: the religious issue, and the Swift Boat ads. I posted in about June 2004 that Kerry needed to do as Rove does, and attack BushCo on what was considered his strongest point - namely, his religious base. It would have been remarkably easy; by presenting Bush's actions in contrast to Scriptural passages, he might have had a chance to break the hypnosis that has gripped the Christian right. At the very least, he would have forced Christofascists like James Dobson et al. to go on record with their reasons for supporting this president - and that would have destroyed those men in 2006, because all of those quotes could have been resurrected in the Congressional elections. I liked Kerry, but I think the 2004 elections have defined him too much in the public eye: bright, thoughtful, cerebral - and lacking in passion, at least by appearance. But he would make a terrific man in a Democratic cabinet.

6) Mario Cuomo - another bright mind. He'd be tougher than Kerry, but the problem here is that he's been around a long time, and it would be tough to claim a new vision for America while trotting out a guy who's been on the political scene for ages.

7) Wesley Clark. Military figure. Above reproach. Smart, and has a reputation for integrity. I like him. The only question for me is whether he can persuade the independents (though I think he can); surely the Democratic base has to be energized for 2006, and even if the Dems take Congress and rid the nation of the damnable occupants of the executive branch, chances are that we will remain energized for the foreseeable future - certainly through 2008 at the least.

8) John Edwards - I like him, but I hope he sits this one out. I'd rather see him in 2012 or 2016. He has all the qualifications, but I think politically he would be wiser to let the 2004 election collect some more dust.

9) Hillary Clinton.

I saved Hillary for last, because I just don't know what to make of her. She's obviously brilliant, centrist, and clearly not just Bill's spouse. I think it would be dangerous for the GOP to attack her, unless they have something on her or Bill that no one knows about. I do think that anything of that stripe would have come out by now, however, because the GOP has no control when it comes to trying to smear the Clintons. If they had anything, they would have used it before now.
To me, this makes her viable in two ways: they can't say anything more about her; she's been through the wringer and come out a Senator. She has to have enough anger at the rough treatment she's received to last a lifetime.
Moreover, attacking Hillary has the potential for grave backfire on the GOP. They've lied about her so many times that bringing these lies to the fore, in a time where Republicans are increasingly being perceived as corrupt, deceptive, secretive and untrustworthy - might cause more people to make the connection: "You've lied about everything else; you've been lying about her, too."
On the other hand, if you ask me if she's the BEST candidate, I would have to say no, even if Bill comes along. I would not be unhappy with another Clinton presidency. Certainly she would hit the ground running in a way that probably no one but Gore could. On the other hand, her voting record in the Senate isn't exactly exemplary in the eyes of the Democratic faithful. What she could gain from the middle, she might lose on the end.

My own choices would be Gore, Clark, Warner. Kerry, Clinton in roughly that order. That said, I feel compelled to relate this:

About six months ago, I had a very powerful dream. In the dream, I was in a city that was remarkably reminiscent of Moscow - cold, gray, wide empty streets, generally forbidding. It was an overcast morning.
In the dream, I was somehow - there's no other word for it - joyful. Here I was in what had to be the most depressing setting for a free-worlder to be in, and I was completely happy. Ahead of me, in the middle of the gray street, was a blonde, blue-eyed woman wearing a royal-blue coat. I walked up to her and she gave me a hug, and as she did, I said, "Congratulations. You're the President."

I know there is a lot of time between now and 2008. However, if the 2006 elections turn Congress over to the Democrats - and that is looking increasingly likely; the numbers are reaching the point where an electronic fix would be almost impossible and would raise an incredible hue and cry if it were to occur - then Congress will in all likelihood begin cleaning out the executive branch, one impeachment at a time. With subpoena power, we would finally be able to see much of what this White House has been endeavoring to hide. I wonder whether we might actually witness the spectacle of federal marshals entering the White House in order to secure documents (assuming that they all haven't been turned into confetti). In a nutshell, I believe that conditions moving into 2008 will continue the erosion of GOP support, with no new sources of support to tap.

So my prediction, and it's just mine, is: if Hillary Clinton runs, she will win. And while some might be disappointed with the election result, it is undeniable that she would be vastly superior to the guy that's in the Oval Office now.

Peace
PsA
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NJ Democrats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 04:49 PM
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77. Russ Feingold!!!
Go Russ!
But if not, then Gore, Edwards or Clark.
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killerbush Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 06:27 PM
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80. either
Mark Warner or Evan Bayh would be good choices
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benny05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 07:11 PM
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82. Forgot to say hello
Welcome to the DU!

:hi:
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sandrakae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 07:25 PM
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83. John Kerry is the most qualified to run this country.
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killerbush Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 08:31 PM
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84. Kerry had his chance
Time for someone new.
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sandrakae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 08:58 PM
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87. The Presidency is not a big prize to be won.
I deserve a President like John Kerry. I am tired of people acting like it is a big game. Oh you didn't make the first time, so the hell with the all the people who deserve a good president.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 08:35 PM
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85. well, since the qualification in this thread seems to be very broad
Edited on Sun Mar-05-06 08:35 PM by wyldwolf
Bill Clinton.

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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 09:07 PM
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88. Wes Clark is the only one !
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k_jerome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 09:13 PM
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89. HRC. nt.
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AlGore-08.com Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 01:28 AM
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90. Al Gore
But then, y'all probably knew that already from my screen name... ;)
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