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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 10:38 PM
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"Election 2006: Do you know how your vote will be counted?" Great article!

ELECTION 2006
Do You Know How Your Vote Will Be Counted?
the Washington Spectator
Online Edition
By Warren Stewart | March 1, 2006

Since the 2000 presidential election mess, we've checked in periodically on the vital issues of voter fraud, election reform and the rapid spread of electronic voting machines (see, most recently, our June 15, 2005, and April 15, 2005 issues). Critics have raised serious concerns about the safety of electronic voting; yet more and more states seem to be rushing to embrace this technology.

Battles over electronic voting have been raging recently at the state level, largely out of the view of major media. We asked the knowledgeable Warren Stewart to give our readers a primer on the troubles inherent in electronic voting and to catch us up on reform efforts still underway in several states. Stewart is the Director of Legislative Issues and Policy at VoteTrust USA, a non-partisan national organization that advocates for election integrity and e-voting reform.

The troubling truth about voting in America today is that a majority of the electorate casts their ballots on computers that run software that is hidden from public view and lacks any independent means of verification. The process by which our votes are cast and counted is controlled by private corporations to an extent that threatens the foundations of democracy.

Last September, the Government Accountability Office released a report on the security and reliability of electronic voting machines. The report, which detailed the findings of a nine-month study, said that "concerns about electronic voting machines have been realized and have caused problems with recent elections, resulting in the loss and miscount of votes." The GAO reported that it had confirmed instances of "weak security controls, system design flaws, inadequate system version control, inadequate security testing, incorrect system configuration, poor security management, and vague or incomplete voting system standards."

While acknowledging that efforts were under way to improve the situation, the report warned that "these actions are unlikely to have a significant effect in the 2006 federal election cycle." Not exactly reassuring.

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Fundamental to the argument against electronic voting is that there is no opportunity to observe the counting of votes. When using DREs, the recording and counting of votes is performed by software—software that is considered "proprietary" by the voting machine vendors, and that is therefore kept secret even from election officials. Not only is the software secret, but the process by which it is tested and the results of that testing are also secret. The laboratories that test the software and hardware are paid by the vendors, but of course all these financial transactions are—you guessed it—secret.

http://www.washingtonspectator.com/index.cfm for the rest
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 10:40 PM
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1. Punch card where I live and they never have had a problem.
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 10:46 PM
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4. Keep in mind that you still have vendor software counting your punch
card ballots. See www.whoscounting.net and read about the companies. Find out which vendor software is counting your vote in your state.
States with paper ballots still have the vendors counting their votes on scanners and tabulators with proprietary software. The thing is there is no way to KNOW if you have a problem or not with trade secret software and no way to verify election results. We have faith-based elections, not elections based on checks and balances. The vendors count our votes in secret, and then say "trust us." Read about their history and connections here
www.whoscounting.net and see how much you trust them!
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 10:41 PM
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2. I've been wondering about that since November 2004.
Nothing Congress does is as important as addressing this very situation. But they won't.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 10:43 PM
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3. My vote will be counted?!?
Wow!

That's half the battle. :evilgrin:

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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 10:48 PM
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5. Well, that kinda depends on the ongoing saga of Diebold VS. the voters
and how that fight turns out!
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 10:52 PM
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6. Excellent article
K&R
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 10:57 PM
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7. KR..nt
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 10:59 PM
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8. I am not going to look at the links because it is vital for me to hang
onto the illusion that my vote might actually be counted.

You gotta give me that man.

But in all seriousness, I vote absentee, I know it's not fool proof, and in the end nothing is for sure, but it does leave a paper trail.
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GuvWurld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 02:13 AM
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9. K&R (eom)
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 03:09 AM
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10. It's 3:07 a.m. Do you know where your vote is?
I don't know where mine were from the last several elections because I just push a button and it disappears. I'm fed up with the situation. Soon others will see the logic of election fraud and stolen elections as they look for an explanation for the worst president ever ruining not only the country but the world. If they'd lie us into a war, ignore the insured and desperate in New Orleans, and then engage in deliberate voter suppression to make sure that the survivors of New Orleans Katrina couldn't vote...well, what's a few million stolen votes. Hey, nobody died.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 05:03 AM
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11. it's now 4:03AM and i still haven't heard from my vote.
my vote may end up on a milk carton.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 12:30 PM
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13. (((LOL))) n/t
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 04:11 PM
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14. I know because I vote on a paper ballot, but I don't know what the
ES&S scanner and tabulator did with it when it got counted!
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 08:03 AM
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12. K & R
:kick:
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