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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 06:24 PM
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Every Conservative loud-mouth should APOLOGIZE TO MICHAEL MOORE !!!
Edited on Tue Feb-21-06 07:23 PM by Julius Civitatus
Yes. Every single one of them.
And they should do it repeatedly and profusely. To him and his family.

I still remember when Fahrenheit 9/11 came out, and they howled, screamed and cried "treason." They branded any efforts from Moore to unmask the Bush family as completely SOLD OUT to SAUDI PETRODOLLARS as an act of treason itself.

Oh, I remember it well: How could Michael Moore even "dare" to suggest that Poppy Bush and Dummy Bush could be so tied to big middle-eastern oil money? How could he?

Well, never mind Michael Moore offered the same evidence that many other authors have used to scream out loud about this outrage. Evidence, I may add, that is out there in the open, for all to see.

Still, they called him a "traitor," a "communist," "in league with the terrorists," and much, much worst (some psychotic Bush supporters even threatened Moore, which is beyond the pale).

Now, it turns out, that when Bush has to choose between the interests of his wealthy Arab partners, and the security of the United States of America, country he actually is supposed to represent because the American people voted him to do so, Bush once again decides to protect the interest of his big-moneyed friends. In case you are not aware, here's the big news: BUSH SAYS HE WOULD VETO LEGISLATION TO STOP DUBAI PORT DEAL.

Not only he will defend the giveaway to Dubai, he would do it FEROCIOUSLY, even using the right to VETO, which he has never used before for any other issue.

As Michael Moore said in Fahrenheit 9/11:

Okay, let's say one group of people, like the American people pay you $400,000 a year to be president of the United States.

But then another group of people (Poppy's Saudi friends) invest in you, your friends and their related businesses, $ 1.4 billion over a number of years.

Who are you gonna like? Who's your daddy?

Indeed.

Michael Moore was right. He was prophetically right, and this means bad news for the nation as Bush sells away the keys of our ports to a company OWNED by the government of UAE. The UAE is a nation suspected of involvement in 9/11, supporter of the Taliban, a nation that still recognizes the Taliban as the "legitimate" government of Afghanistan... and a nation suspected of financing terrorism worldwide. Now the government of that nation will own the keys to 6 of our major ports, and Bush will fight tooth and nail to defend that deal.

We are waiting for your apologies, Freepers, wingnuts and conservatarians of all shades and stripes, as you painfully awake to the same reality that we, on this side of the polical divide, have known for 6 years now. Michael Moore, an author and filmmaker, was just exposing what was out there and anyone familiar with the Bush admin. knew already. He deserves more credit, especially after the horrible attacks and insults he received after he released his movie.

Nothing short of an apology will do.

We are waiting.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 06:26 PM
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1. Great post!
And you're dead-on right!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 06:26 PM
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2. Do you have any links confirming the UAE/ al quada connection?
And if that is true and the Dems do nothing (I'll bet real money they don't), then I will be sure to not vote for any "D" in my state come 2006.

I suppose we should be lucky. It's an election year.
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Nictuku Donating Member (907 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 06:50 PM
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15. Links UAE to AlQuada
Someone posted this on DU recently, it blew my mind, there are 44 different articles with links between the UAE and 9/11:

http://tinyurl.com/aoehu
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 07:28 PM
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20. I had also spotted that on DU a little earlier,
but had neglected to save it. And I wasn't sure of how to search for it again. Thanks so much for posting it! (I LOVE my DU!)

My Union is a maritime one, and although now retired, I'm still active on it's BBS. For the past two days, I've been adding much to a thread on that very subject. This one will BLOW THEIR MINDS!

pnorman

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vanboggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 06:27 PM
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3. Exactly
You nailed it. Moore is a true patriot and Bushco is comprised of a pack of dirty traitors.

K&R!
:kick:
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 06:27 PM
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4. i totally agree with you. especially the people who referred to
Edited on Tue Feb-21-06 06:28 PM by catmother
michael moore as a whacko from the left. seems this "whacko" got it all right.:eyes:
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merbex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 06:27 PM
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5. I said this in another thread; every repug you know who is outraged
should be given your DVD of Fahrenheit 9/11

And we should all repeat Michael Moor'e words in that film

Who's your daddy??

Saudi's and UAE are buying ALOOOOT of LOOOOOVE
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 07:13 PM
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18. You know, that is a GREAT IDEA
Buy a copy of Fahrenheit 9/11 to every wingnut you know that is awakening to the Bush reality. Kind of like Neo in Matrix, coming out of the shell...

Yes, I'm a nerd, what can I do?
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datadiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 06:28 PM
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6. Hear, Hear n/t
:applause:
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 08:41 PM
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24. kick n/t
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 06:28 PM
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7. A good start would be an apology from those who threatened to kill him.
Remember the new rules. Being corrupt, hypocritical and belligerent is not bad. Pointing out people who are corrupt, hypocritical and belligerent IS bad.
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blue cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 06:29 PM
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8. beautiful post n/t
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 06:44 PM
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14. Thank you.
The first thing I thought when I read the news about the deal was "Farenheit 9/11", and how we already knew which way Bush would defend.
Certainly not the interests of the USA.
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blue cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 09:26 PM
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27. I bookmarked it on my DU to refer to later.
Great ammunition for family get togethers.
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 06:30 PM
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9. Please nominate, pass along, and K&R
This has to be known.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 06:39 PM
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13. Happily done!
:kick:
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 09:12 PM
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26. Thanks, Melissa
:-)
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chaumont58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 06:31 PM
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10. How about the DLC?
*
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 06:34 PM
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11. They qualify as "Conservative"
;-)
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chaumont58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 10:28 PM
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28. Sadly, you are right
I wonder what Harry Truman would think about the DLC?
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 06:38 PM
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12. bush crime family in the Biz of making $$$, they ALWAYS sell out
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 06:57 PM
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16. Add to the list every spineless moderate Democrat
who was too chickenshit to defend Moore and let the Republicans smear him as a liar.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 07:08 PM
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17. Why the righties demonize Michael Moore
Their stereotype of leftists is "ivory tower elitists," and Moore is a guy who is so clearly NOT that. He's a high school graduate from a working class background who grew up in a factory town in the Midwest.

He's someone the working class might actually listen to, because he's one of THEM, and genuinely so, not in a put-on sense.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 07:36 PM
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23. as far as I can tell their main criticism is (and I'm quoting them)
"MIKEL MOOOR IZ TEH FAAATIE" or something similar...
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 07:15 PM
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19. Didn't bush* send HIS lawyer to defend the Saudis
against lawsuits filed by the victims of 9-11?

Didn't he secretly fly his Saudi friends out of the country when everything else was grounded?

And, of course, there IS this:


Even his main squeeze (Condi) takes her place behind, to the left, and eyes downcast when the BUSH* moneymen come to town.
Oh LOOK! How cute. They're holding hands.
(Condi doesn't look happy, pushed off into the dirt like that.)
George Bush* LOVES rich Arabs, and will do ANYTHING for them.
Love of money exceeds love of country for Republicans.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 07:34 PM
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21. It'll be the end of the world the day that happens.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 07:34 PM
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22. Freeps never apologize...they just root themselves further in lies
It's their way. That and bequeathing the flag magical and spiritual powers as a sacred and holy icon.
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Bhaisahab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 04:53 AM
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33. You're right. Check out FReeper responses on free republic:
SOME RESPONSES RANDOMLY CULLED OUT -

This company will be loading and unloading conatiners off ships. The security is left up to the Coast Guard, US Customs, and Homeland Security. Sheesh!

- posted on 02/22/2006 12:51:45 AM PST by Echo Talon
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Americans will only begin to understand their hopeless situation when the first nuclear bomb goes off in the first US city, and suicidal arabs begin to use the arms they have smuggled in to murder innocents like they used to do in Israel.

They are enemies, handing over port security won't change that dear.

- posted on 02/22/2006 12:54:38 AM PST by Sarah
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We're really planning to take over the UAE.

- posted on 02/22/2006 12:48:13 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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BTW, how many islamic terrorist has joe farah killed from behind his keyboard.
Sorry, joe, but I will trust a president who has an unsurpassed record going after islamic terrorists and makes decisions everyday that would probably make you urinate your pants joe.

- posted on 02/22/2006 1:05:32 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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I know nothing about Port Security and Port Operations.

But, I won't let the damn friggin loser media tell me what opinion I should form. If these bastards are piling on Bush one more time right after the Cheney story fizzled, I can only think it is not as simple as the lame media is making it out to be.

I trust Bush on National Security. Nobody can say he does not have National Security interests foremost in whatever decisions he makes.

- posted on 02/21/2006 11:46:12 PM PST by indianrightwinger
======
I am well aware of the situation on the southern border, its problem is with the top not the bottom. The same President oversees both areas of responsibility, so forgive me if I don't jump on the bandwagon and accept his "this is a secure deal" as well as his "guest worker" shamnesty deception.

- posted on 02/21/2006 11:48:46 PM PST by rolling_stone (Question Authority!)
======
I'll take my chances with Bush calling the shots for me on national security over Hillary's naked grandstanding.

Did I just use the words "Hillary" and "naked" in the same sentence?

- posted on 02/22/2006 12:08:29 AM PST by presidio9
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 08:21 AM
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34. Further and futher down the rabbit hole, curiouser and curiouser
n/t
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 10:25 AM
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35. Wow! That's a truly unwavering CULT of Bush right there
There's literally NOTHING Bush could do, including the transfer of port security to a country suspected of ties with terrorism, that would made those idiots stop their adoration for their golden monkey. Nothing!

This was particularly revolting:

I know nothing about Port Security and Port Operations.

But, I won't let the damn friggin loser media tell me what opinion I should form. If these bastards are piling on Bush one more time right after the Cheney story fizzled, I can only think it is not as simple as the lame media is making it out to be.

I trust Bush on National Security. Nobody can say he does not have National Security interests foremost in whatever decisions he makes.

- posted on 02/21/2006 11:46:12 PM PST by indianrightwinger

They are a cult, like the Scientologists or the Branch Davidians, but with their leader in the WH. Very scary.
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Cults4Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 11:04 AM
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37. Indeed they are. They 100% match all criteria regarding cultism
and fulfill all standards regarding that criteria with as much of a fever pitch as could ever have been in imgagined in America. They are verybit as sociopathic as Muslim extremists, they just dont have to use suicide bombers, they've got Bush bombs instead.
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 03:43 PM
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43. Today Rush Limpballs is calling UAE our "best ally in the war on terror"
I guess that's their spin. That's what they are running with.
And the lemmings will follow and repeat the new mantra.
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Cults4Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 03:59 PM
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45. UAE had more to do with 9/11than Iraq!
Thats what I have been saying to these sick sick people. Haven't gotten anything remotely resembling a good comeback. Its a good meme, wish more on air personalities would come up with something similar.
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 04:07 PM
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46. "Truth," "facts," and "reality" just get in their way to scoring a point
Seriously. It's all about political points and spin, never about truth, facts or reality.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 08:42 PM
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25. That should be OUR talking point
Michael Moore and John Kerry were right.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 10:29 AM
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36. Kicked, and I'm not a kickin' kinda guy.
But the days of those RW pricks getting mileage out of taking cheap shots at Moore need to end, now.

Oh, for a Hillary Clinton, a Joe Biden, or some other pink-tutu to have the balls to say it:

Michael Moore was right.
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 12:03 AM
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29. Are they pulling a "Harriet Miers" on us?
I am terribly afraid the Bush administration is pulling a fast one on us. When the outrage of the sale of our security in ports reaches critical mass, they'll bring HALLIBURTON as the only American alternative.

I can see it already.

Some other folks seem to be suspecting the same dirty trick:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2474146&mesg_id=2474146
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demgrrrll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 01:15 AM
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32. There is definitely more to this than meets the eye. This is such a
Edited on Wed Feb-22-06 01:16 AM by demgrrrll
horrendous political move that it is difficult to imagine the motive. I wonder if this has something to do with the Euro. I don't know why I have been thinking about that but if the Saudi government could exert pressure on other countries not to go to the Euro it would be beneficial to the United States. It is either that or the Halliburton gambit. It may be Halliburton but they have been so in your face with that I can't imagine they thought they would need a set up. Who knows. I feel punch drunk after 5 years of this sh*t.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 12:15 AM
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30. good points
I can't wait to see Moore's next film!
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 01:05 AM
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31. Cheney has Dubai ties too!
I've held onto a copy of this article, because we know how facts and those who report them get "disappeared" so I think our best defense is to save this stuff as individuals in as many ways as possible so we can still pass it on.

Halliburton Secretly Doing Business with Key Member of Iran’s Nuclear Team
by Jason Leopold

August 5, 2005
GlobalResearch.ca

www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=LEO20050805&articleId=806

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In light of Cheney's erratic behavior and the 17 separate criminal investigations of Haliburton that have gotten ZERO press coverage, I wanted to remind people of what SHOULD BE BREAKING NEWS that STAYS BROKE until America is back in the hands of WE THE PEOPLE.

The basic synopsis is that after the HUGE War Protests that were virtually ignored by the press, Bushco was ready to push for invading IRAN with a timetable of June or July BUT one of those PESKY FACT BASED Reports said that IRAN was 10 years AWAY from Nuclear capability.

SO..... to get the war they wanted, Cheney sent Haliburton over to Iran, with profits from their Iraq contracts to help advance Iran's Nuclear Program so that they could become a credible threat to US. (Hello! Aiding our enemy? Treason?)

>> AND Now that we are looking at the Ports for Sale Issue and DUBAI <<

see this excerpt from Jason's Aug 2005 Article


<snip>
In attempt to curtail other U.S. companies from engaging in business dealings with rogue nations, the Senate approved legislation July 26 that would penalize companies that continue to skirt U.S. law by setting up offshore subsidiaries as a way to legally conduct business in Libya, Iran and Syria, and avoid U.S. sanctions under International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA). The amendment, sponsored by Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, is part of the Senate Defense Authorization bill.

"It prevents U.S. corporations from creating a shell company somewhere else in order to do business with rogue, terror-sponsoring nations such as Syria and Iran," Collins said in a statement.

"The bottom line is that if a U.S. company is evading sanctions to do business with one of these countries, they are helping to prop up countries that support terrorism - most often aimed against America," she said.

The law currently doesn’t prohibit foreign subsidiaries from conducting business with rogue nations provided that the subsidiaries are truly independent of the parent company.

But Halliburton’s Cayman Island subsidiary never did fit that description.


Halliburton first started doing business in Iran as early as 1995, while Vice President Cheney was chief executive of the company and in possible violation of U.S. sanctions. According to a February 2001 report in the Wall Street Journal, "Halliburton Products & Services Ltd. works behind an unmarked door on the ninth floor of a new north Tehran tower block. A brochure declares that the company was registered in 1975 in the Cayman Islands, is based in the .....

>>>>>>>> Persian Gulf sheikdom of Dubai <<<<<<<

...... and is "non-American." But, like the sign over the receptionist's head, the brochure bears the company's name and red emblem, and offers services from Halliburton units around the world." Moreover, mail sent to the company’s offices in Tehran and the Cayman Islands is forwarded to the company’s Dallas headquarters.


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So IS THIS NEW COMPANY REALLY NEW? Or was another shell added to the same con-man's game and this Dubai company that no one knows anything about is actually formerly know as Haliburton's Cayman Island's subsidiary?

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Jason Leopold has a book coming out in May called "News Junkie" and he's done many articles for Indy Media like Salon and CounterPunch etc... for more info about Jason www.jasonleopold.com
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 01:03 PM
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42. Strange..the SEC was conducting criminal probes of Halliburton
and their shady deals with Iran. The SEC operated out of offices on the 12th floor in World Trade 7. H'm I can make the connections. Another thing,on 911 fires were reported in the basement but not up inside WT7 later
raging fires are seen on the 12th floor (arson?) and the 7or 8th floors where the CIA had secret operations offices. I can connect the dots.. 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB.
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 08:44 PM
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49. Make sure you have your timelines in order...
I know SEC was conducting at least 17 separate criminal investigations at one point, but I think they all began AFTER 9/11. I'm not aware of any prior to that, but I have never seen a whole lot of documentation on those investigations, so you could be right. I think I heard about them on Air America Radio.

And although I wouldn't put anything past this administration, I can see two possible scenarios that wouldn't necessarily prove that 9/11 was an inside job. I'm only saying this because when we talk to anyone who hasn't seen the dark underbelly of the beast will really object strenously to any accusations of their guilt without some solid facts and without examining other possible options.

If you have this strong of an opinion, that's fine, but to keep from being beat over the head with right wing objections, you could always couch your strongest hunch with the possibility that an elevator could have been open on that floor and the fire leapt up and happened to get that floor OR that the CIA fearing all their top secret stuff would wind up on Park Avenue for everyone to read may have torched it on purpose, but without the whole MIHOP aspect.




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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 11:52 AM
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38. Kicking for a great rant!
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 11:55 AM
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39. kick and recommend. Awesome!
n/t
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 12:25 PM
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40. "Who's your daddy?"
First thing that came to mind when I saw your post ...
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 12:31 PM
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41. A friend of mine brought this up last night....
Edited on Wed Feb-22-06 12:32 PM by Az_lefty
He's retired Army and usually pretty conservative but he's as pissed as I am about "boy georges" sell out to the Saudis. When those MF's smuggle in a nuke and detonate it WTF are we suppose to do then? Congress better step up and stop this treasonous bullshit!

on edit: He had just seen F-911 and thought it portrayed the bush crime family perfectly.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 03:51 PM
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44. Truth is our most powerful weapon!
They certainly DO OWE HIM AN APOLOGY!!! Every rat bastard who intentionally tried to destroy his credibility should be held accountable.
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 04:43 PM
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47. They even threatened him and his family
Some freeper rednecks even went that far. It wasn't just his reputation, but his safety. What they did to Michael Moore was horrible, nasty, and a national embarrassment.

They all should apologize publicly.
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Radio_Guy Donating Member (875 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 05:35 PM
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48. Great post
Kicked, but not reccommended because I don't have enough posts to recommend a thread. :(
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 09:02 PM
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50. Yup and at the same time a big-ass apology to SCOTT RITTER


Ritter was 100 PERCENT RIGHT about the NON-EXISTENT WMD,and you ass-clown Bush and Pillboy supporters were dead-ass WRONG!!
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