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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 08:40 PM
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What should be the DU Message in 2006 Congressional Races?
Since I am carrying your and other progressive banners, I would like your input (and support).

Carl

Sheeler for US Senate
www.carlsheeler.com

BTW Be Patriotic Impeach Bush!
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 08:42 PM
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1. Country before party
n/t
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 08:52 PM
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7. That is excellent.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 12:12 PM
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80. I love that!!
We also need bumper stickers that say that!!
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LetsGoMurphys Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 11:12 AM
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97. Awesome! n/t
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 12:01 PM
Response to Reply #97
101. Thanks.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/2/19/1730/42036

Carl
Sheeler for US Senate
www.carlsheeler.com

Be a patriot and pass the bulletin board link to every person you know and every blog you can and ask the same from them, too.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 08:43 PM
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2. Reform. Integrity. Throw the bums out.
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 08:53 PM
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8. It would be refreshing.
How much will the public assist? 98.5% of incumbents in federal office are re-elected!
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 08:55 PM
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12. Well if they threw ALL of them out
we'd have the House and the Senate :)
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 08:57 PM
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17. I'd like to see a fresh breed of of, for and by the people
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 08:44 PM
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3. I penned this before the 2004 theft, but it still stands today
We all have a stake in the future of the United States.
We are united in this concept regardless of our diverse cultures and views; We are the nation.


Whoa_Nelly 2003
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 08:54 PM
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9. Profound and true. It rings of truth!
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 08:47 PM
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4. I'd like to see a great deal of emphasis placed on digging a HUGE
hole in the ground and burying Republicans alive in it.

I concede that this may encounter legal impediments.

But I like the concept a lot.

____

Perhaps an emphasis on what constitutes an individual American life. What it means to be a citizen, what citizens' privleges and burdens are in a community, what difficulties we face as a divided democracy (and blame Bush for that!), and how the individual citizen can touch the future by present sacrifice and awareness.

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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 08:55 PM
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11. Oy, the environmental hazard. I say send 'em to Mars.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 08:56 PM
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14. LOL! Mars sounds good. See -- I'm flexible. / nt
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 08:58 PM
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18. Too close... maybe deep space
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 08:49 PM
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5. I rather like Chairman Dean's Message!
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 08:55 PM
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13. I like it, but it seems "canned" and people are getting jaded.
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johncoby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 08:50 PM
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6. Balance
Restore the balance in the checks and balances of our government.

Restore balance in the Senate to challenge the administration when necessary.

Restore balance in the house to restore the check on the administration.
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 08:56 PM
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15. How about restore the postive balance to our deficit!
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 08:54 PM
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10. competence and integrity
Two basic words that this current crowd can't begin to understand. We should run on Katrina, Iraq, and Abramoff. Commercial after commercial after commercial with the competence and integrity tagline.
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 08:57 PM
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16. Now you're talking.... from my script I might add.
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Gronk Groks Donating Member (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 09:39 PM
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23. Steal the line from the Republicans...
...Balance the Budget!!!!

Simple, elegant and talk about putting your thumb in their eye...:evilgrin:
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 12:19 PM
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35. Put a thimb in their eye sounds good too!
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 08:59 PM
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19. Are you better off than in 2000?
That covers a lot of areas:

healthcare, housing costs, jobs, stagnant wages, outsourcing, war, stolen pensions, federal deficits, loss of freedom, wiretapping....
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 12:19 PM
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36. Yeah, it certainly does.
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CelticWinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 09:01 PM
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20. I work for the people not corporations n/t
This land is my land, this land is your land---its not Halliburtin-Land.
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 12:20 PM
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37. Death to their lobbysists
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OhioBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 09:06 PM
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21. All of the above are good suggestions
while it is important to point out the failures and scandals of the Republicans, I think it is more important to demonstrate leadership. When you make your speeches, make people want to follow you. Encourage them to participate, encourage them to volunteer, encourage them to hold civic duty as an honor. Much like Kennedy's "Ask not.."

Talk about what a great country we do live in and how we can work together to make it a better country. The Republicans' vision for America is a sham. State what you as a Dem stand for, livable wages, equality, security, competence in government, clean environment, etc. It is our responsibility to leave our Country in a better condition than we inherited it for future generations and not be selfish to get all that we can now at their expense. (especially in regards to the deficit, environment and growing divide between rich and poor)
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 12:22 PM
Response to Reply #21
39. You're on the freakin' nail. Well done!
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Kukesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 12:31 PM
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51. And in Ohio we can use "Just Say Noe." nt
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 05:00 PM
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57. Clever and attractive too
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 09:28 PM
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22. Here's some ideas:
Honesty

An end to corruption

Defending the Constitution
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 12:21 PM
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38. Now you're talking - Our Country. Hands off!
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Klukie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 10:12 PM
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24. The party of common sense!
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 12:23 PM
Response to Reply #24
40. and Uncommon courage
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 10:15 PM
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25. Try this:
In recent polls by the Pew Research Group, the Opinion Research Corporation, the Wall Street Journal, and CBS News, the American majority has made clear how it feels. Look at how the majority feels about some of the issues that you'd think would be gospel to a REAL Democratic party:

1. 65 percent say the government should guarantee health insurance for everyone -- even if it means raising taxes.

2. 86 percent favor raising the minimum wage (including 79 percent of selfdescribed "social conservatives").

3. 60 percent favor repealing either all of Bush's tax cuts or at least those cuts that went to the rich.

4. 66 percent would reduce the deficit not by cutting domestic spending but by reducing Pentagon spending or raising taxes.

5. 77 percent believe the country should do "whatever it takes" to protect the environment.

6. 87 percent think big oil corporations are gouging consumers, and 80 percent (including 76 percent of Republicans) would support a windfall profits tax on the oil giants if the revenues went for more research on alternative fuels.

7. 69 percent agree that corporate offshoring of jobs is bad for the U.S. economy (78 percent of "disaffected" voters think this), and only 22% believe offshoring is good because "it keeps costs down."


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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 12:23 PM
Response to Reply #25
41. All true and must be covered in a 7 second sound bite
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 02:13 PM
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52. How true.
Edited on Sun Feb-19-06 02:14 PM by bvar22
Thanks for the chuckle.
:patriot:

"If it won't fit on a bumper sticker, it won't get you elected!"---?
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 05:01 PM
Response to Reply #52
58. Argghhhhh! Why, why, why......
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 09:41 PM
Response to Reply #52
88. Let's laugh 'em out of office!
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 11:19 PM
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26. Liberty and Justice for All
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 12:24 PM
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42. Amen
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DarkmoonIkonoklast Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 11:40 PM
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27. The Nation is the People, the State is but the Tool! IMPEACH BUSH!!!
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 12:24 PM
Response to Reply #27
43. Is he gone yet?!
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DarkmoonIkonoklast Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 11:42 PM
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28. or: "Remind 'em who works for who!
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 12:25 PM
Response to Reply #28
44. Taxpayers are the people
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DarkmoonIkonoklast Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 11:43 PM
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29. or this: There's no such thing as GOVERNMENT MONEY!!!
Balance the budget or GET OUT OF MY POCKET!!!
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 12:25 PM
Response to Reply #29
45. It's a bottomles pit.
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John Barrett Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 12:43 AM
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30. I'd Stand Up For American Workers/Retirees & Their Security
Standing up for American workers is a tired old concept I know. But it is a concept that the made the Democrat party great and successful. But in recent decades it's been a lost concept probably because of the money from K Street and many other diverse interests.

Clinton passed NAFTA and screwed American workers. Outsourcing of American jobs is an overlooked issue by Democrats as are overpaid and overperked CEOs with their lush retirement packages. American businesses have had their every wish made into law under Bush, including mega dollars in new corporate welfare and privatization.

Meanwhile many Democrats like Dean and Kennedy tout illegal immigration as though it's a good thing for the country, when the fact is it's only good for business and it hurts most working Americans and the Democrat constituency. I could go on, but I'm not sure Democrats worry much about the kinds of things anymore that concern most of the hard working people in this country. They wonder why they've lost most of the south and many of those that made up their old constituency. Listen to Lou Dobbs if you want to hear what's bugging most Americans.
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 12:26 PM
Response to Reply #30
46. Many valid points - Unions support immigration
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John Barrett Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 03:28 PM
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56. Immigration or Illegal immigration
Edited on Sun Feb-19-06 03:47 PM by John Barrett
First...The issue of illegal immigration is not the same as legal immigration by any stretch. The second point which I would like to make again is that support of illegal immigration represents a lack of support for working Americans. Democrat politicians must decide whom they wish to support. When the Party clearly supported working Americans was when they were supported by the common "man" throughout the country. The party has no focus and has lost this support.

Illegal immigration is a key factor in the declining wages in many job sectors. It is a reason that healthcare insurance is skyrocketing because the insured must subsidize those who aren't covered. It is a reason for vastly increased education costs and declining education in many areas.

This country was founded on controlled immigration and it has been a good thing because it brought needed labor when labor was needed and brought new blood when that was needed and expanded the culture of our country which is always needed. Illegal immigration isn't the same and doubt if any union would support it because it undercuts it's workers. Now some union leaders may see it in their interests just as some politicians do, but generally speaking some corrupt union leaders are looking out for only increasing their numbers and not actual benefits to employees...just as politicians are looking out for votes and not the country. This country needs a skilled workforce to compete....unless we want to turn this country into a low priced, low wage producer for other more advanced countries.

Edited to add: And BTW I agree that there are grounds for an impeachment but Democrats need more than that for a long term recovery.
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 05:11 PM
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59. Agreed and selecting wedge issues is unPatriotic
Look it's been immigration throughout US history, the Italians, the Irish, the Asians and now Latinos. When Carter granted amnesty, there was no economic apocalypse. You are singing from the GOP hymnal about how low wage Latinos some how steal jobs from whom? Low wage Americans? It's a nonsensical argument. The is a zero sum loss of Latinos use of taxpayer services as most also pay taxes, which they may never benefit when fake ID's are used. If you follow the Bush suggestion, it's three years as guest workers and then what? And if you follow McCain it's registration and a road to citizenship. The reality is pursuing any other course, such as sending all undocumented aliens home comes with the price tag of identifying, capturing, processing and shipping. Put a price tag on that scenario and this is why it will get no real support. Education produces economic mobility and it is the area where investment is needed. Good jobs reduces crime as well, so there are both direct and indirect benefits.

The anger is misdirected. Global economies allow for cheap labor elsewhere and big business is shipping those jobs as a result and we seldom see any real anger as a result... it's narrow minded to think singling out a population group as the source of the problem will solve it, when it's the same party that supports big business.

Sad, but true.
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John Barrett Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 07:47 PM
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64. Good Luck
OK ...you're the one running for Senate, and I wish you luck.

Obviously I'm not going to convince you that my motives opposing illegal immigration are honorable, and will in fact benefit those many working Americans who are struggling to make ends meet by reducing the pressures from lowered wages, increasing costs of healthcare and education. Again....opposition to illegal immigration is not oppostion to LEGAL immigration which you have seemingly bundled, but that's fine.

If only our elected Congressmen had to bear the same burden that most working Americans have, there might not be such an overly idealistic view that our borders should be wide open to anyone who wishes to make a better life for themselves.
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 08:01 PM
Response to Reply #64
65. 12% legal 6% undocumented in RI
If you could show me compelling evidence that a person is receiving lower pay due to undocumented immigrants present in the US, I'd want to incorporate this issue into my own thinking. This argument has been (ab)used in the past because it is simple to understand, but not necessarily true. I also note you did not address what it would cost Americans to incorporate your suggestion of somehow driving out 13 million or more people from the US or how this necessarily would result in higher wages.
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John Barrett Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 09:40 PM
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69. Thanks for The Reply
If business (1) had to abide by legal employment hiring practices and (2) if they had the necessary government tools to verify employment status, which seems like a no brainer in 2006, we wouldn't have to force 13 million people out of the country. If there were no jobs and no free handouts they would both go back home and no longer come here. There could be ways to mitigate the hardship on those that have been here for an extended time.

The USA is no longer the country of the mid 20th century with the deep pockets, strong fiscal position and improving standard of living. We need to start putting Americans first, and I don't mean American big business.

Your question concerning the impact on wages is something I can't quantify. It's like asking the media business to quantify the impact of bootleg "CDs" on their product. Obviously they have to lower the value of legitimate product. Bootleg employees obviously lower the value of legitimate American citizens. If you don't believe that I'm certainly not going to convince you otherwise. My concern is that there are few politicians who are looking out for the American worker. If they aren't virtually in the pocket of big business, they then have this view that America should be helping unfortunate Mexicans or others to better themselves. But where does that leave most Americans? IMHO it leaves them without a party or without any political support. We've seen the impact on middle class wages which have remained stagnant or declined for 20 years, while the rich have fared much better.
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 10:56 PM
Response to Reply #69
70. The root of your frustration is the haves and the have mores
I'm with you in spirit. The big co.'s and wealthy have done anything but level the field. My goal is to have them abide by an obligation to our future and not only theirs. Stepping on the little guy to stay nearer to the top guy IS NOT the way to do this.

The worker/middle class has been stagnant for longer than 20 years and this is because we have had no accountability of our Congress or big biz, so here's where we agree. New breed who puts working families and smaller businesses and new start ups first! Now that we can agree on!
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 12:50 AM
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31. Let's bring back HONOR to America!
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 12:27 PM
Response to Reply #31
47. I love this one
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BigYawn Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 02:28 AM
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32. Since the public poll favors 70:30 on this issue, it is a winning issue
for anyone running in 2006. The issue is ofcourse
stopping ILLEGAL immigration by drastic measures.
Personally I favor imposing significant fines on
employers who shouldl be required to check leagality
of every employee. They check references and education
and drug test and criminal background check (only for
certain jobs) and other data provided by the employee,
so why not legal status of citizenship or visa.
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VonDoomPhd Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 02:54 AM
Response to Reply #32
33. Message?
Here are a few ideas/memes currently being championed by my guy (see signature.)

1.) FORGET HEALTH INSURANCE, EVERY AMERICAN NEEDS TRUE HEALTH CARE

2.) THE CENTER OF AMERICAN POLITICS HAS BEEN PUSHED FAR TO THE RIGHT. WE DO NOT RECLAIM THE CENTER UNLESS WE REDEFINE IT WITHOUT FEAR: POLITICS IS ALL ABOUT PEOPLE.

3.) THE UNITED STATES CANNOT EVER LIVE UP TO ITS PROMISE OF BEING A "SHINING CITY ON A HILL" IF IT CONTINUES TO OUT-SOURCE AMERICA. A GOVERNMENT THAT FAILS TO GUARD THE ECONOMICAL SECURITY AND WELFARE OF ITS CITIZENS AGAINST CHEAP LABOR IS IS A GOVERNMENT THAT SANCTIONS GREED; A GOVERNMENT THAT FAILS TO HONOR ITS PEOPLE.

4.) "PROGRESSIVE" IS NOT A DIRTY WORD.

5.) HOW DO WE PAY FOR THESE PROGRESSIVE PROGRAMS? TAX BILLIONAIRES, MULTI-MILLIONAIRES AND MILLIONAIRES. GO BACK TO FDR AND HIS INTENTIONS.

6.) FOREIGN POLICY SHOULD NOT BE DRAFTED BY MICRO-CEPHALIC, WAR-MONGERING, VILE PIECES OF SNAKE SHIT (I'm paraphrasing on this one.)
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 12:30 PM
Response to Reply #33
49. You're on the money in more ways than one
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VonDoomPhd Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 11:42 PM
Response to Reply #49
94. Yeah well...
On the money or not, progressive candidates and their supporters need to stop capitulating and start attacking. Politics is all about people. That is the truth. And the truth is on our side, bubba.
Once armed with that there is no reason to step back from the fray.
Appeasement did not work with Germany in ww2 and it will not work with the GOP.

You seem to be doing a fine job, Carl.
Keep it up.
And don't back down the second you get some high-profile handlers on your campaign.

The truth will out.

Cheers,

Victor
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 12:27 PM
Response to Reply #94
103. Never had much use for handlers. Lead, follow or get the hell out
of the way. They have their purpose, but they're not my or your conscience.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/2/19/1730/42036

Carl
Sheeler for US Senate
www.carlsheeler.com

Be a patriot and pass the bulletin board link to every person you know and every blog you can and ask the same from them, too.
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VonDoomPhd Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 02:05 PM
Response to Reply #103
111. I'm liking you more every day.
Kick ass, sea-bass.
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 07:31 PM
Response to Reply #111
114. Will do.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/2/19/1730/42036

Carl
Sheeler for US Senate
www.carlsheeler.com

Be a patriot and pass the bulletin board link to every person you know and every blog you can and ask the same from them, too.
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 12:29 PM
Response to Reply #32
48. It's a wedge issue and misses the bigger point
.... shrinking, aging population with offshoring of jobs more screwing occurs from big business in one day than by what the undocumented receive in a year in the US.
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BigYawn Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 08:58 PM
Response to Reply #48
68. I was referring strictly to the vote getting power of this issue,
and how to deflect it towards the employers and not
the undocumented workers. I am not commenting on the
moral right or wrong aspects of illegal immigration.

All I am saying is if you really want to win over an
entrenched opponents, you better make this your front
burner issue. Otherwise you and I will be sitting in a
bar to drown out the pain of your loss, post election.
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 10:57 PM
Response to Reply #68
71. Agreed. Big biz must be held accountable. It's patriotic!
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 03:52 AM
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34. How about.....
A Democracy needs checks and balances --
That takes at least two parties; right now, there's only one.
Vote for a Democrat and restore the balance of power the Founders intended!
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 12:30 PM
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50. Frenchie - It's perfect! I love it!
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enough already Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 02:18 PM
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53. Simple. Impeach Bush
If we run on anything else we are wasting time and energy.
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 05:13 PM
Response to Reply #53
60. So you'll help me!!!!
We need 150 people working the web every day for about an hour pushing this message and campaigns supporting the impeachment and his cabal of corruption. If it's sustained up to the elections, we will see GOP abandoning their leadership to save their own necks and more good (I hope) Democrats putting public interests before special interests.

Carl
Sheeler for US Senate
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yellowdogmi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 02:36 PM
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54. Reestablishing the seperation of church and state
I am deeply offended by the president giving our tax money to religious institutions to solve problems. I believe that there is probably a lack of oversight on these programs like there is with all of his other programs. It also essentially buys votes for the GOP. If these problems need to be solved (and they do) we should not be outsourcing to the clergy but funding public health iniatives and affordable healthcare. The erosion of this principle has allowed the current attacks on science such as the creationism vs evoloution debate and interferred with the stem cell debate.
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 05:15 PM
Response to Reply #54
61. I'd say "Amen" to that but.....
Or should they choose to be involved in policy, then they can forgo their tax free status. Can't have it both ways. There are some bonafide good faith based entities who are well established and the funds do help, but the purpose of government is to remain secular and remain impartial regardless of demographics and beliefs.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 02:40 PM
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55. The American dream is for all of us, not just for the rich and powerful.
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 05:18 PM
Response to Reply #55
62. It's there when we are willing to fight for it.... not before.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 06:43 PM
Response to Reply #62
63. Of course cuts to education is making it harder. It's like they
want higher education to be the domain of the landed gentry.
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 08:06 PM
Response to Reply #63
66. It's not "like" it is they do
What is the benefit of people with more street or book smarts? Most societies that want to prevent opposition purge educated folks to minimize this risk. In this case, economics is the tool by raising tuitions and lowering funds available for working families.

The worst part of this is there is no correlation that a wealthy kid attending college will perform any better than a smart, poor kid. If anything, the kid earning the diploma will always work harder because there's no trust fund safety net.

I literally have five kids who will be approaching or are college age and I have no earthly idea how to pay for their college, so I feel your pain.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 08:42 PM
Response to Reply #66
67. This is one area where it seems bush Inc are pulling one from
the Leo Strauss playbook. They want to ensure the supremacy of the ruling class.
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:00 PM
Response to Reply #67
72. It's been tried. Their arrogant and stupid. Numbers prevail
if organized, which I am really trying to do. It won't happen with us doing the group grope, but specific acts of coalition building across the blogosphere and putting a new breed of elected official in place of those we have now. My goal. Our goal?
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:50 PM
Response to Reply #72
74. I've been working with first the local Democratic party, then the
DFA to get the party back to the grassroots.

We found that a small group willing to do the work can make changes. We went from four people in a coffee house, to 2,000 strong. It took five months for our small group to build that organization of volunteers, but we did it with money out of our pockets and a lot of hard work. We desolved our organization and took over our counties campaign only after we went as far as we could as independent agents. We made some big decisions, one being to use the Kerry candidacy to bring in potential volunteers for races we knew we could win.

In the end we were able to not only hold our ground against the paid staff and canvassers of the Republicans, we picked up a seat. The local Dem party spent more money on the Jefferson-Jackson dinner than we spent on our combined campaign. Our efforts saved our local candidates time and money because we had willing volunteers ready for any candidate that needed them.

Not only that, we build up a database of volunteers and voters, something not done in 2000.

The blogosphere is great for organizing and educating, but you need feet on the ground.
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 09:21 AM
Response to Reply #74
76. Holy Shit Shinola! That is impressive and very true.
In the Marines they say that you cannot control ground you do not occupy, so the feet on the ground lesson is very true. Can I clone you folks and bring you to RI. We have DFA here, but it's fractured and leaning towards the me too candidate with the most $'s. Such is politics in RI.

Carl
Sheeler for US Senate
www.carlsheeler.com
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 12:10 PM
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79. Someone needs to knuckle some heads at your DFA


feet on the ground:


We need real precinct captains, real LD chairs. We need to visit every home in every precinct at least once a year. We need to let the voters know we are their neighbors. We need to be at every art fair, basketball game, every farmer's market.

We stood outside theaters and galleries during gallery hops. We were everywhere. If the Democrats want to win, we must do the work it takes to win.

Our DFA chapter, Change For Kentucky, has been very smart. They knew they didn't have the money or manpower to do any good for congressional races, so we have put our efforts behind local races, city council and mayoral races. Wednesday we will make our final decision on the three we will back, and the others we will endorse.

We are up against the multinational RWE. They own our water company. They want to sell out, but refuse to sell to us. Our city council will not use the legal tools to secure our water supply because a majority is in the pocket of RWE. That's why we have turned our efforts to local races.
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 05:41 PM
Response to Reply #79
81. Ypu're what retail politics is all about and it's "ALL" retail politics.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 09:21 PM
Response to Reply #81
83. Well I have lived here for 10 years, not once has a precinct captain
Edited on Mon Feb-20-06 09:23 PM by alfredo
paid a visit. I am doing the first ever voter ID of this precinct. We need some retail politics here. It seems our local party has gotten the message of our 2004 election because they are paying attention to the grassroots and to retail politics.

I'm not sure how much more I can do, my arthritis has kept me off the streets for most of this month. My Achilles Tendons are acting up. As soon as the pain is gone I am going to hit the streets again, slowly at first. I need to be up to speed for the primaries because soon as it is over I will be working at full speed. As yet I haven't decided which campaign I am going to work for, but if I can't walk I want to coordinate the canvassing.

Anyway, I have applied my years of experience in retail sales to retail politics. Selling an idea or candidate is not much different than selling a shoe or a bicycle. First you need a product you believe in. Then you need to use your eyes and ears before you use your mouth. You need to know what the person needs, then you need to read their body language. From there you can get an idea of what to sell and how to sell it. But before you launch into your pitch, you need to sell yourself. If the person doesn't like you, what you are selling won't matter.

Selling yourself doesn't mean talking about yourself, it is how you present yourself as a person. How you dress and carry yourself. Both should be appropriate for the situation. Pay attention to the non verbal.

Watch their body from head to toe. If their feet are turned away, you've lost them. Is their body open or closed? Look in their eyes, are the engaged or not. Are they smiling, or are they tense. Is the smile real or forced. Remember use your eyes and ears first, then the mouth. Close the deal or cut your losses and move on.

Keep doing that until you can't do it anymore, then get up the next day and start all over again.


This is my approach to campaigning in a nutshell.
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 09:35 PM
Response to Reply #83
85. I could use 100 of you in RI. You're to be commended.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 10:14 PM
Response to Reply #85
90. Thanks. But you need people who are physically able to do it at the
level you need. I would love to have back my legs of ten years ago, back before mail carrying broke me down.

Hit the universities. You will find a lot of Campus Dems willing and able to help. Government or Civics classes at high schools give credit for students who work political campaigns. They are great for lit drops, and placing yard signs. Get students from two or more schools and you will be amazed at how hard they will compete against each other to be the best volunteers. Check with the schools to see what their policies are.

One campaign I helped was Ben Chandler's (D Ky 6th) campaign. He had his organization, but he was so generous to us, we pitched in when we could. We included him in all our lit drops and yard sign deliveries. He's one of the good guys.
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 12:29 PM
Response to Reply #90
104. Agreed, feet on the ground is very important.
This is a pincer movement with attacks from the net and media and mail and in person to create he critical mass to move people to act. Complacanecy is more of an enemy than opposition.

Carl
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 02:08 PM
Response to Reply #104
112. In the recruitment phase you need tireless and creative people
out there trolling for volunteers.

We made up a simple black and white, three per sheet volunteer form, sent it to each in our group with instructions to print out a load of them, put them on a clipboard and hit events where young progressive people gather. One night we got 200 volunteers signed up outside a movie house showing Fahrenheit 9-11. We also handed out voter registration forms and trolled for volunteers at move in day at our local university. We also handed out bumper stickers and paper campaign stickers to everyone who signed up to volunteer.

Handshakes are important. It is found that a person remembers you if they have physical contact, no matter how brief. (One of the keys to Clinton's success)
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 07:30 PM
Response to Reply #112
113. You sure you don't want to run this pupy?
Excellent suggestions!!!
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 11:54 PM
Response to Reply #113
115. My heart belongs to Kentucky.
It seems Rhode Island should be full of talent, Hit the labor unions, VFW, and other veterans organizations.
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DarkmoonIkonoklast Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 01:31 AM
Response to Reply #63
117. So maybe we who know better should take it on ourselves...
... to educate people as we pass.

Just today while bussing around town, I met three people, one just 18, who, impelled by the "Jail Bush" button on my cap, struck up conversations... each a perfect teaching/learning opportunity.

This is something I do whenever I'm out and about... I just got tired of waiting for "someone else" to do the educating...

BTW: the 18 y.o. is now going to make sure all his friends vote this summer and fall!
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:22 PM
Response to Original message
73. Tell the people if they get down on their knees and beg....
then we might be able to talk the Democrats into accepting the reins of government again. Otherwise, they are stuck with the futility and incompetence of the Republicans forever...:)
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 09:42 AM
Response to Reply #73
77. Easier, only vote in DEMS who are not insiders w/backbones
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 12:28 AM
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75. New Jobs for New Energy.

The way to differentiate Dem energy policy with Bush's fake renewable energy policy, other than just saying it is fake, is to emphasize the dovetailing of solving the energy crisis with job creation.
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 09:42 AM
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78. Now that is smart!
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Brazenly Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 06:02 PM
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82. We Are NOT GOP-lite.
Seriously, Carl, here's what you need to do:

Make a list.

A list of all the things these apemen have screwed up. (It'll be long, bring a lunch)

Winnow it down to the Dirty Dozen.

With each item, explain how and why it hurts America (sorry, but people are stupider than you can possibly predict.) Make the explanation brief, to the point, and in terms that explain how the average citizen's daily life is affected.

For each point, have a proposed bill to correct it.

If you think this won't work, remember 1994. Sure redistricting and the steady slide of the south to the right helped, but the Contract on America nailed it for the GOP. Most of their cures were worse than the diseases, but........

Look, the Bushies are spectacularly bad at running the country, but they are very, very good at a few things. One of those things they are very good at is scaring the pants off half of the country. Right now, they've got the average person so skeered he dasn't get too far from the portapotty. When people are like that, they need something secure and solid. They can accept, even crave, change, but it has to be change that sounds like it's coming from someone who knows what he's doing and has a real plan to get it done.

The biggest problem the Democrats have right now is that the GOP - Gawd, it kills me to say this - is kinda right when they say we complain but have nothing to offer as a solution. Start with the Murtha plan and build.
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 09:39 PM
Response to Reply #82
86. Agreed 'cept people vote not on policy, but perception....
... Bush won on just that and DEMS don't have the time or attention span to talk policies. People want to know and believe you care and you'll do the right thing. Reread your sorry,but people are......
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 09:25 PM
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84. Unlike the president and his party, we have not given up on the
Edited on Mon Feb-20-06 09:36 PM by alfredo
middle class (or the American Dream)
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 09:39 PM
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87. Now that is good! Well done, sir!
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 10:25 PM
Response to Reply #87
91. Yer welcomed. You are helping me to get my head in the right place
for this campaign season.

I am recovering from a physical setback and facing having to phone bank and data entry instead of canvassing and leafleting like I have in the past. Talking with you has made me more determined to be 100% physically fit for the task ahead.
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 11:16 PM
Response to Reply #91
92. No problem. All part of the added value candidate!
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/2/19/1730/42036

Carl
Sheeler for US Senate
www.carlsheeler.com

Be a patriot and pass the bulletin board link to every person you know and every blog you can and ask the same from them, too.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 11:56 PM
Response to Reply #92
95. I just did. I sent it to some of my friends in a veterans group.
We were all stationed at Kagnew Station in the mid to late 60's. Most of us were morse intercept, linguists, and crypto specialist. You can read about us in "Body of Secrets" James Bamford, and for a different take on us: "We Didn't Do it For You" Michela Wrong. (chapter 10)


http://kagnewstation.com/
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 11:11 AM
Response to Reply #95
96. My wife was one of you folks in the 80's. Cool.
All the support you can muster.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 11:50 AM
Response to Reply #96
99. You know us old spooks are
crazy as March Hares.
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 12:32 PM
Response to Reply #99
105. I'm betting on it and need your below the radar help.
Really, this is a campaign where the skills of everyone from people to psyops to electronic all converge to overcome complacency and opposition. Shit, it ought to be fun, too.

Carl
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 12:43 PM
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107. Her training in keeping your data secure will help your campaign.
Simple measures like moving all data from headquarters computers onto thumb drives each night will protect you if your opponent breaks in to copy sensitive data, or if someone breaks in to steal your computers. Double checking all windows and doors to make sure they are locked. Shred all paperwork, endeavor to hide computers from line of sight from windows. If someone looks in your windows, they shouldn't be able to tell if there are computers in the room. Drawing blinds makes them think there is something to be hidden and provides cover for thieves.
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 01:20 PM
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109. and who is going to access Brown Whitehouse and Chafee data
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 01:36 PM
Response to Reply #109
110. That's their worry and problem.
All campaigns should assume their data is vulnerable and take measures to protect it.

Our fight against the multinational RWE (Ky American Water) was infiltrated by their operatives. They were filming and taping our open meetings and were looking for employees who might be sympathetic to our cause. Access to our data could have meant the jobs of RWE employees who supported local ownership of our water. Protecting the data was not only to protect our strategy, but it had humanitarian implications.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 09:58 PM
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89. We fight for the greater good, not the great grief.
That work for ya? :toast:
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 11:17 PM
Response to Reply #89
93. It's a start. But GOP into grief hurt locker
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/2/19/1730/42036

Carl
Sheeler for US Senate
www.carlsheeler.com

Be a patriot and pass the bulletin board link to every person you know and every blog you can and ask the same from them, too.
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NativeTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 11:13 AM
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98. Win the election, by winning the country, by returning us to the....
...days of BIG TENT politics.
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 12:00 PM
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100. And I bet you resent W wears cowboy boots when he's never ridden
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NativeTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 12:08 PM
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102. Hell YEAH, and he was born in Connecticut and calls himself....
.....a TEXAN!!
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 12:34 PM
Response to Reply #102
106. Well, he was voted Guv' there too. Time to redistrict again!
I won't hold it against you. LOL I've was a Redskins fan from way back when it was about the 'boys and the 'skins, but when it comes to women folk, some of the prettiest, nicest and smartest gals I have met are from your neck of the woods.
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NativeTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 12:52 PM
Response to Reply #106
108. Yeah, but if his name had been Joe Jones instead of George Bush....
Edited on Tue Feb-21-06 12:53 PM by NativeTexan
.....he couldn't have been elected DOGCATCHER. Besides, dogcatchers have more authority in Texas than governors.
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DarkmoonIkonoklast Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 12:57 AM
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116. opinions please...
"It is the basic premise of United Solidarity that, in order that a nation be strong, in order that a people be both secure and free, there are certain basic principles to which both that nation and that people must firmly and faithfully adhere:

  1. No nation can be secure against threat from without, unless it be secure against rot from within;

  2. The principles upon which a nation is founded can never be compromised without destroying the moral and ethical basis for the existance of that nation;

  3. The greatest foe of freedom is that body of citizens who, in the name of Freedom, pervert those institutions which safeguard those freedoms;

  4. The second greatest foe of freedom is that body of citizens who, by inaction or neglect, condone or permit such perversion;

  5. When the conduct of the Nation violates those principles upon which that Nation is founded, it is the moral, ethical duty of the citizen to oppose that conduct, even if life and liberty be forfeit."

from "The Principles of United Solidarity"
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