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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 09:07 AM
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Montpelier, VT: "a small band of young men chanting 'Nuke Iraq'"
February 11th, 2006 6:12 pm

Hundreds march on Statehouse for peace, "Future White House press secretary spotted across the street"

By David Gram / Associated Press

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/latestnews/index.php?id=5824



Andrew Sapp, a Massachusetts National Guard staff sergeant and high school English teacher, said he was called up and deployed to Iraq even though he was against the war and considered it based on lies by the Bush administration. He said his experience in Iraq left him knowing "what it's like to be looked at by people with fear, hatred and murder in their eyes."

Among those attending, but not speaking, was Democratic gubernatorial candidate Scudder Parker, a critic of the war who agrees with the need for the Guard study called for in one of the legislative resolutions. "We need to be taking an assessment of the impacts of the war on the families of Vermonters and on returning (military) personnel and make sure that the resources are there to meet the incredible stresses this places on families," Parker said in an interview.

The demonstration also attracted a small band of young men who stood across the street heckling the marchers and chanting, "Nuke Iraq."

David Lockerby, 18, of Berlin, said he planned on joining the Marines when he can lose some weight and pass the test to get in. He said he believed that Iraq was involved in the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001 and that Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden were comrades in arms. "Once a towel-head, always a towel-head," he said. Tom Treece of Calais, a history teacher at Spaulding High School in Barre, called that remark bigoted and sought to engage Lockerby and his friends in debate, but the debate soon fizzled out.

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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 09:11 AM
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1. Lose weight to join the Marines?
Either this guy is 400 pounds or a dye-in-the-wool chickenhawk.

The Marine boot camp diet will get you in shape damn quick!
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 09:17 AM
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4. He is a lard ass living room commando
His combat experience is limited to playing Doom. A typical RW badass. These jerks make me so damned tired, they're the first ones to call for blood, but it's just a game to them. They think you can always just hit reset & get three new lives.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 11:22 AM
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12. But maybe he's REEEEAL good at those shoot-em-up war video games.
Edited on Sun Feb-12-06 11:22 AM by calimary
Armchair heroics surrounded by empty soda/beer cans and potato chip bags, I'm sure.

I hope someone there handed him and all his friends enlistment papers. If you want that shit so bad, go over there and get some, YOURSELF. Maybe some other GI stuck over there on a third or fourth short turnaround or duty extension can finally be freed from that captivity and COME HOME!!!

I found this on the internet(s) somewhere - apologies for forgetting the source - and haul it out every so often. Also have about 100 of these in the trunk of my car and I leave them on the front windows of parked cars that have a lot of obnoxious pro-bush, pro-war bumper stickers on them:

Dear friend and fellow American:

I know how much you support President Bush and the war effort in Iraq. But I noticed that you haven’t signed up to fight yet. It might be because you are too busy, or maybe you just didn’t know how easy it is to join! I know you probably feel guilty about sending other young men and women off to die in your place, so I am sure you’ll take this opportunity to do the right thing:

Sign up for a tour or two in Iraq today!

You will enable some poor soldier who’s stuck there, exhausted, scared, isolated, frustrated, thirsty, poorly supplied, insufficiently armored, under constant threat, lied to about why he’s there and when he’s going to be released, and yearning to come home – to do just that: come home!

What could possibly be more patriotic?

What better way could there be to prove your devotion to President Bush?

“…And I’d gladly stand up next to you and defend her still today.
‘Cause there ain’t no doubt I love this land. God bless the U.S.A.”

Below are the links you can use to sign up to join any branch of the armed forces!

http://www.airforce.com/contact/locator_fr.htm
http://www.navy.com
http://www.marines.com/request/contact_recruiter_request.asp
http://www.goarmy.com/contact/find_a_recruiter.jsp
http://www.gocoastguard.com/offices/recindex.htm
http://www.dior.whs.mil/forms/DD0004.pdf

Line Up!
Sign up!
Today!
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Pool Hall Ace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 09:16 AM
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2. Getting out of the 101st Chairborne Division will help him lose weight.
Blasted chickenhawk. :grr:
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 09:16 AM
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3. They take cripples, people with low I.Q.s and mental problems,
amputees, etc. Pork Chop should have no problem being accepted.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 09:17 AM
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5. Weight is the least of Lockerby's problems.
The Marines draw a line at dimwits, too. It's a shame, really - this guy deserves to be on the frontline.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 09:24 AM
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6. Where in hell was that 2nd picture taken?
It cetainly wasn't yesterday in front of the Vermont Statehouse. Not only are they a tad under dressed for a day in the teens, the lack of snow on the ground is a dead giveaway. I doubt that photo was taken in any part of Vermont.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 09:30 AM
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7. That's the famous "Morans" guy...
...not taken yesterday in Vermont, simply posted to represent the spirit of the chickenhawks.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 10:02 AM
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8. You can not have a debate with people
whose ears are closed and whose minds are made up.
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 10:48 AM
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9. I was there and heard these same young "men."
Our rendition of...."Give peace a chance" was met with them bellowing "Hoo-rah, hoo-rah, hoo-rah" and "Go home, hippies." It took everything I had to just hold my head high and keep singing as they chanted at us. They followed us, jeering, all the way to the State House. I wanted to stop and throttle them, but decided to sing louder. It`ll take more than a trio of morans to stop this 60 year old woman.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 10:55 AM
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10. This is truly a bastardization of the VT motto "Live Free or Die". n/t
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 10:55 AM
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11. You might like to read this
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 11:40 AM
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13. Is our children learning?
"Tom Treece of Calais, a history teacher at Spaulding High School in Barre, called that remark bigoted and sought to engage Lockerby and his friends in debate, but the debate soon fizzled out."
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