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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 11:05 PM
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Nobody cares about the military kidnapping wives in Iraq as a tactic?
Edited on Fri Jan-27-06 11:11 PM by Seen the light
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...

Why haven't I seen much outrage about this tonight? Is Ann Coulter that much more important than the US military sinking to Nazi levels?
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 11:06 PM
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1. just found out about it
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samhsarah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 11:07 PM
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2. Don't forget about Oprah and the lying book guy.
Lot's of important things going on. Who has time to talk about our military starving babies?
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 11:14 PM
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11. So true.... n/t
PB
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 11:07 PM
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3. I certainly care.
But damn, I don't know what to say about it.

Makes all of the people who claim we are not now Fascists seem rather stupid, doesn't it?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 11:08 PM
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4. I've seen several threads on this today.
I'm outraged, but I wish I knew what to do about it that would have any impact at all. :shrug:
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 11:09 PM
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5. It's on the front page, with 100+ responses. nt
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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 11:10 PM
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7. True, but most of these top stories get plenty of threads in General
The only place I've seen it has been on LBN. I realize that the Alito stuff is happening right now, but I expected this place to be deluged with threads about this. If there were some earlier that I missed it, I stand corrected though.
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samhsarah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 11:15 PM
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12. I have actually seen about 5 or 6 threads myself.
Maybe with all the Alito stuff going on, they are just falling off too fast.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 11:10 PM
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6. It's so horrible
:cry:
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 11:10 PM
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8. Amerika loves it's bloodthirsty-ness!
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ewoden Donating Member (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 11:12 PM
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9. Enough Already!! I want to know . . .
Who pushed that slob off the cruise ship? I want to know, if that caribbean Island guy doinked the missing white chick before burying her in a VW in some lagoon. I want to know if that book guy ever realy snorted coke and flipped off a cop. I want to know who exactly the four out of five dentists really are that love Crest so much?
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 11:12 PM
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10. It's shameful. I'm very concerned about it.
Peace.
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 11:15 PM
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13. Some things are too outrageous for words.
(until I hit my rant key)

I was outraged and revolted to discover that we have to run a poll to find out if we approve or disapprove of this tactic.

And that poll was WAY lopsided, because I know I'm not the only one who COULDN'T and WOULDN'T click on that THING.

(rant off)
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 11:26 PM
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14. Another violation of the Geneva Convention.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 11:29 PM
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15. Hell-ooo! Brown people!
:shrug:
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 11:30 PM
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16. I emailed the article to everyone on my list.
Frankly, I don't know what else to do. I hope someone sent it to Olbermann.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 11:31 PM
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17. Sadly, No. No one really cares about it.
The same way most people couldn't care less that we are torturing people, killing people by the boatload in an illegal war and that the country itself is being hijacked by the Straussians. They don't care about what's happening here let alone what's happening thousands of miles away.
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 11:41 PM
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18. What?
They what?
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 01:56 AM
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32. Link
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 02:18 AM
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34. I know it's cliche, but all I can think of is,
"Dude, no way."
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 11:44 PM
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19. The problem is we do care
It's one more thing to add to our list of shameful atrocities being committed in our names.

We're outraged about each and every one. We go to protest. We call our Reps and write LTTEs, we rant to our neighbors, associates, and the person at the gas pump next to us. We call into radio programs and CSPAN. We email cable news and big name newspapers begging then to give the real news like this more coverage only to be ignored.

When all is said and done we come here and rant more. At least here we feel like we're being heard.
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Catt03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 11:46 PM
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20. I think there are so many outrages happening
that our brains are overwhelmed almost everyday. An outrage a day.

This is how it happens though in dying cultures. There are so many things to be digested and upset about, day after day, you just get numb.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 11:53 PM
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21. This is horrifying ..
and so is raping children in front of their parents to get information: Sy Hersch, the journalist, saw the pictures, and apparently heard a tape of the children crying.

I was a social worker for God's sake - paid by the government to do something about child abuse. Then I find out that the government - the national one - is in the business of abuse.

Heartbreaking.

Just leaves me speechless.
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byronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 12:45 AM
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27. He watched a videotape. He could not watch it all.
He said the screams were too much to bear.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 07:47 PM
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36. Heartbreaking - to think that our government took part in the ..
torture and killing of women and children.

:cry:
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 12:17 AM
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22. It's disgusting & along w/ the rape, torture of children & women in front
of suspected "insurgents" in order to get them to "talk", I'm sure this is just the tip of the ice berg of what is being done in our name. Whether its being done by our soldiers being ordered to do so or by private "contractor/mercenaries", its morally and ethically wrong and I'm so outraged I can barely contain myself. And yet, like the question you asked in this thread, I keep asking myself where is the outrage in this country?

We are living in a nightmare right now and I just want to wake up....
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 12:26 AM
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23. Come on, women are barely people.
How sad that when I read the article my first thought was, gosh, I hope they're not gang raping them. But I bet they are.

My tax dollars at work. Sickening.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 12:29 AM
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24. ***Additional DU threads on this outrage - yes, it needs MAJOR EXPOSURE:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
thread title (1-27-06 LBN): Documents Show Army Seized Wives As Tactic
Wash Post article based on US military documents.

Related thread based on Yahoo News:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
thread title (1-27-06 GD): Not Allowing an Iraqi Woman to Breastfeed her Baby for 2 Days is Torture.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 12:39 AM
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25. ***4-paragraph EXCERPT from the WaPo article describing one event:
I resisted the free subscription for a long time, so maybe there are some other people who don't yet have this access:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...

Documents Show Army Seized Wives as Tactic


By CHARLES J. HANLEY
The Associated Press
Saturday, January 28, 2006; 12:38 AM

(snip)

In one memo, a civilian Pentagon intelligence officer described what happened when he took part in a raid on an Iraqi suspect's house in Tarmiya, northwest of Baghdad, on May 9, 2004. The raid involved Task Force (TF) 6-26, a secretive military unit formed to handle high-profile targets.

"During the pre-operation brief it was recommended by TF personnel that if the wife were present, she be detained and held in order to leverage the primary target's surrender," wrote the 14-year veteran officer.

He said he objected, but when they raided the house the team leader, a senior sergeant, seized her anyway.

"The 28-year-old woman had three young children at the house, one being as young as six months and still nursing," the intelligence officer wrote. She was held for two days and was released after he complained, he said.

(snip)


These are from among the hundreds of documents still being released periodically by the Pentagon to the ACLU under court order.

Surely these are war crimes?
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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 12:44 AM
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26. Of course they are
Will anything come from this? Probably not. This is worse than Abu Ghraib to me, yet it probably won't get any media attention. Very sad.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 01:33 AM
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28. It is deplorable - but we have all heard about it before.
The fact that a major news outlet gives it time..... It is PATHETIC that they are acting as though this was 'breaking news'. It's been going on for 3+ years now.



I am ashamed of our 'news corps'.


If you want the truth you must rely on BBC, Pacifica, and almost any other foreighn news source.


The USA is wired as to only tell the corporate story - until too many intl. news sources corraberate an 'uncomfortable one'... then they SPIN, SPIN, SPIN, SPIN, SPIN, SPIN, vSPIN, SPIN, SPIN, SPIN, SPIN, SPIN, SPIN, vSPIN, SPIN, SPIN, SPIN, SPIN, SPIN, SPIN, SPIN, SPIN, SPIN, SPIN, SPIN, SPIN, SPIN, SPIN, SPIN, SPIN, SPIN, SPIN,


It makes their corporofascist leaders look GOOD. Then the 'talking heads' get raises!!!!


It's all good.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 01:43 AM
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29. You're right. This is not breaking news. n/t
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 01:51 AM
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30. Not even close.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 01:53 AM
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31. Every day this stupid war breaks my heart.
I don't know what the fuck we're doing over there. I don't know why so many people in this country can't see through the obvious lies. (although the media deserves a great deal of blame)

You're right, the story is appalling.

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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 02:13 AM
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33. I recommended ECH1969's thread but didn't comment.
That doesn't mean I don't care. I just have no words to describe my disgust.
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 02:20 AM
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35. It is outrageous and shameful, and unfortunately only one more in
a long series of shocking revelations that leave us somewhat numb in our inability to stop it all.

:(
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