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southern democrat Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 12:55 AM
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Does it bother anyone else here that Kerry accepted campaign donations
faux news?
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frustrated_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 12:57 AM
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1. Didn't know that,
but yes, it would bother me. Do you have a link?
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southern democrat Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 01:02 AM
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5. Read the post in LBN referring to Kerry's lobyist donations
Use the link there and read the Washington Post story.Accepeted donations from Rupert Murdoch news corp AKA Faux news.
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bornskeptic Donating Member (951 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 01:20 AM
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11. Here it is, right at the bottom.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 01:58 AM
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17. Scarier, yet...!
Edited on Sat Jan-31-04 02:03 AM by krkaufman
http://www.opensecrets.org/presidential/index.asp


EDIT: Note that the linked data was last updated Oct 2003.
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 02:37 AM
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26. opensecrets.org link to John Kerry
News Corp is at the bottom of the Top Contributor list

http://www.opensecrets.org/presidential/contrib.asp?id=N00000245&cycle=2004

Skadden, Arps et al
$97,650

Citigroup Inc
$70,200

Piper Rudnick
$68,250

Mintz, Levin et al
$63,300

Goldman Sachs
$62,500

Robins, Kaplan et al
$62,250

Hill, Holliday et al
$50,750

Massachusetts Mutual Life Insurance
$50,250

Harvard University
$47,750

Morgan Stanley
$39,500

Clifford Law Offices
$36,000

Bain Capital
$35,500

International Profit Assn
$34,250

Holland & Knight
$32,950

Akin, Gump et al
$32,550

FleetBoston Financial
$32,000

UBS Americas
$31,550

Hale & Dorr
$30,200

Sullivan & Cromwell
$30,050

News Corp
$29,400

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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 03:06 AM
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32. Check this out..Dean took Newscorp $ too!
HOWARD DEAN (D)
Top Contributors
Cycle: 2004 All Cycles*
AOL Time Warner
$66,225

University of California
$55,124

Microsoft Corp
$25,800

Harvard University
$24,150

IBM Corp
$22,750

Dean for America
$20,643

University of Pennsylvania
$16,200

Emory University
$16,050

Goldman Sachs
$16,000

Stanford University
$15,500

Skadden, Arps et al
$14,449

Citigroup Inc
$14,100

Dartmouth College
$14,050

University of Texas
$13,049

Hewlett-Packard
$12,850

Walt Disney Co
$12,700

McKenna, Long & Aldridge
$12,700

State of Vermont
$12,680

Massachusetts Institute of Technology
$12,500

News Corp
$11,700



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Clark Can WIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 12:57 AM
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2. It's the PNAC contributions that bother me.
:scared:

He should send them back, it's dirty, dirty money.
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TexasPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 01:00 AM
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did he really?
i missed that.
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Clark Can WIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 03:12 AM
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33. Here's the link to the link
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 01:02 AM
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6. I've heard the allegation, but
When did Kerry take money from PNAC?

Kerry needs to take back that quote about appointing James Baker. I guess he's not a PNACer, but most definitely a BFEEer.
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MajorFlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 01:00 AM
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3. Uh, most politicians accept contributions. Where's the story.
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Lobo_13 Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 01:55 AM
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14. Maybe because it puts the lie to his campaign.
After all, he's been hitting that "Stand up to the special interests." line pretty hard. Has much less oomph when one takes into account that he's just another bought and paid for politician.

Just one more silver bullet in the bandolier of BushCo against Kerry. They will eat him alive, but you can still look on the bright side. Maybe the botox will give them limited paralysis for a while.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 02:02 AM
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21. Botox eh. Let them make an issue of that lame subject.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 01:45 PM
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36. Hi MajorFlaw!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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retyred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 01:00 AM
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4. Was this "From" faux news? or
Was this question asked on faux news with a list of some sort?

What does this mean?:shrug:


retyred in fla
“Good-Night Paul, Wherever You Are”

So I read this book
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 01:08 AM
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7. Link please?
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TexasPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 01:09 AM
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8. that washington post article is interesting
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A64727-2004Jan30.html?nav=hptop_tb

and it pretty much confirms what both the Dean and Clark camps have been saying...

This guy is part of the problem, not a solution.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 01:09 AM
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9. If it means they'll be nice to him
No. But I doubt it means that. Wasn't Hannity talking about the Botox???
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JasonDeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 01:17 AM
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10. If Kerry wore high pointed heals, I wouldn't care. As long as
he took it to bush* and constantly stuck the heals into bush*ites forehead.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 01:22 AM
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12. Well, you'll need Dean to pave the way for him, then,
as he has so far, making it "safe" for Mr. Courageous to come out against Bush at all.
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southern democrat Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 01:22 AM
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13. Should the democrats change or just be the other bought and paid
for party? We lost the last set of elections because we did not show the voters where we differed with the GOP.
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JasonDeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 05:06 AM
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35. Anyone alive and paying attention since 1994 and ESPECIALLY 2000
when newt the adulterer gingrich and the republicans took over the congress it should be painfully clear to 'anyone' that there is a chasm of difference between the Democratic and republican party. Ralph Nader used to be a valuable American, since the 2000 election cycle he's been a fool who has put a bill of goods up that too many gullible people have bought.

Kerry would be infinitely better than bush* and can beat him.
Clark would be infinitely better than bush* and can beat him.
Dean would be infinitely better than bush* and can beat him.

The rest are infinitely better than bush* but they can't beat them.
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Lobo_13 Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 01:56 AM
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15. Chances are that he won't
Bush will say boo and Kerry will piss himself. Just like he's been doing for the past three years.

But he'll get the vietnam vet vote.
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corporatewhore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 01:58 AM
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16. yes and PNAC but to balance out it bothers me that Dean accepted donations
from AIPAC
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 02:01 AM
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19. Yeah! And also...
... from EIEIO.
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kerryistheanswer Donating Member (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 01:59 AM
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18. Um...Does it bother you that the Simpsons is on Fox?
WIll you stop watching it?
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 02:02 AM
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20. Personally, I think we all *should*....
Personally, I think we all *should* stop watching Fox, and any of its affiliates. Boycott Walmart, ... etc.
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 02:07 AM
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24. You ask too much of me, then
I will not stop watching the Simpsons. Not for nobody.

:P
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 02:03 AM
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22. Doh ;-)
Edited on Sat Jan-31-04 02:04 AM by oasis
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Bad Thoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 02:05 AM
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23. Yes
I have had FOX, Fox News and FX blocked for years.
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 02:24 AM
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25. It does take a lot to really bother me, but that one fills the bill.
Maybe taking money from NAMBLA might seem worse to me, I guess.

How can any Democrat take money from Murdoch?

How about having Ailes and Scaife over for coffee at the same time?

Boy, does this ever reassure me about our media-anointed front runner.
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isbister Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 02:54 AM
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27. Sen. Russell Feingold (D-Wis.),
Edited on Sat Jan-31-04 02:54 AM by isbister
co-author of the newest campaign finance law, said Kerry was not one of the half-dozen members who put together the reform package but "he's always been one of our most consistent and strongest supporters."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A64727-2004Jan30_2.html
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isbister Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 02:57 AM
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28. In the presidential race
Edited on Sat Jan-31-04 02:57 AM by isbister
Kerry has accepted contributions from the same "special interests" he accuses Bush of being too cozy with: HMOs, drug companies and energy firms. He has raised nearly $27,000 from oil and gas companies, tops of the remaining Democratic candidates; $34,000 from HMOs, second to Dean; and $18,500 from pharmaceuticals, third to Dean and Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman (Conn.).

and all behind bush, by far!
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corporatewhore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 02:58 AM
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29. just another reason to vote kucinich!!!!
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isbister Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 03:16 AM
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34. If Kucinich's message
were wrapped in another package, it would have a better chance of being sold. America is not ready for the candidate or his message yet. They may be if we can step the nation back to the center from the right-wing nutjobs currently holding the White House and Congress first.

Kucinich, Sharpton and Braun have played, and continue to play, an important role in this race and that is to keep reminding our Nominee... apparently Kerry at this writing... about what we Democrats are and can be. That is not to say I believe Kerry has forgotten, its just that they remind him that he can be the package we need to deliver the power necessary to turn this country back to where it needs to be going.
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isbister Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 02:58 AM
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30. Kerry has never been swayed by any donation on a vote.
He consistently votes to protect consumers and workers.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 03:03 AM
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31. newsflash, folks . . . whoever the Democratic candidate is . . .
will accept contributions from someone or other we don't like . . . that's what "insiders" (those who are part of the political establishment) do . . .

if you are under the illusion that electing Dean, or Clark, or Kucinich will mean we're electing an "outsider," think again . . . every one of our candidates is (or will become, if nominated) an "insider" . . . why? . . . because, in 2004, no "outsider" is going to be elected president . . .

our choice in November will be between our "insider" and their "insider" . . . I'll be voting for ours, be it Kerry, Dean, Clark, Edwards, Kucinich, Sharpton, or Lieberman . . . they all have their strengths, and they all have their weaknesses, but any one of them will be a vast improvement over what we have now . . .
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 05:39 PM
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37. Not as much as Dean's Halliburton contributions
No wonder Dean wants to keep us in Iraq.
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